Jump to content

Retained list


1

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, Rampant Zebra said:

If we are going to release a player there is no need to say "you were <ovf censored> so we are getting rid of you". "Sorry we can't offer you a deal, good luck finding a club" would be just as good.

But you don't...can't...know what he will say to the players he wants to release? So don't try to make him out to be a bad guy and a bully. You might think that any manager who took over an underperforming squad would be relishing getting rid of what he considers to be "deadwood" - doesn't mean he will be a bastard with them!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Replies 1.4k
  • Created
  • Last Reply
2 hours ago, robf said:

Just listened to DC's interview. Brilliant. Nothing he said filled me with anything other than hope for the future - either in the way he said it or in what he intended to do. 

Nothing's changed for me since November when in all honesty we should have released Askey. Most of these players need to go and I'd be surprised if any of the out of contract players are retained. The problem for DC is that probably four of those under contract also need to be moved on: definitely Whitehead and Burgess, probably Amoo (on the basis of his injury record) and possibly Robinson (whose scoring record simply hasn't been good enough). 

DC's most telling statement? That he will live or die by his recruitment. It's what we need most of all and what we haven't had for year after year. Our success next season is going to turn on who the club can recruit, so let's wish DC good luck with his rebuilding plans, starting on Monday.

This is going to be hard for some of our players, brilliant for others and, for us as supporters, it will give us a sense of optimism and expectation that we haven't had for a long, long time. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Rampant Zebra said:

Football is a village, players talk to each other. If you had a choice of two clubs and one had a manager who released your best mate from years ago and treated him badly you might chose the other one. It gives no benefit to anyone to get a reputation for being nasty.

Didn’t do Alex Ferguson any harm. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, LancyTony said:

But you don't...can't...know what he will say to the players he wants to release? So don't try to make him out to be a bad guy and a bully. You might think that any manager who took over an underperforming squad would be relishing getting rid of what he considers to be "deadwood" - doesn't mean he will be a bastard with them!

Why say it then in his interview? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Rampant Zebra said:

Trying to make himself feel better by blaming someone else when he picked the team? I get that he is passionate but he needs to work on his PR I think.

He made a point of not blaming the fringe players for today's performance, admitting that some might be rusty - so he did exactly the opposite of what you're saying!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Rampant Zebra said:

Why say it then in his interview? 

You're reading far more into it than he's actually said - and not for the first time! Get that you don't like him - but don't try to twist things to make him look bad!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just now, Rampant Zebra said:

Why say it then in his interview? 

You're assuming that "There will be one or two right good principled points made to one or two players that I will enjoy saying. Because for me, being a professional footballer is every single day, living your life right, doing all the things right" means he's going to tear strips out of them and then release them.

He might be saving their career by saying "you've got talent, but you need to work harder and your lifestyle needs to improve - then you'll have more of a chance of a successful career".

Sometimes the truth might hurts, but tough love could actually help some of these players.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, Howjy04 said:

I may be wrong but I tend to think there were issues with some players which led to the demise of JA.Others hinted at it at the time.I don’t think DC suffers tawts gladly.

I think so, too...but, without the evidence to back it up, i wouldn't say so! 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Rampant Zebra said:

If they are leaving, why say anything? They might play us in the future. 

Because then you’d get upset at him for not explaining his decision. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Rampant Zebra said:

But then he is admitting that he picked the wrong team. If he is judging the players overv46 games he should have known that the team he picked would struggle. 

Again, he wasn't blaming the fringe players he brought into the team - but he was perfectly demonstrating that the squad was unbalanced, and some didn't live the lifestyles of professional sportsmen.  Today's game meant nothing, really - but he was clearly gutted that players he trusted to put in a performance...didn't!! Pretty sure a left-footed wing back will be coming in!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, valeparklife said:

You're assuming that "There will be one or two right good principled points made to one or two players that I will enjoy saying. Because for me, being a professional footballer is every single day, living your life right, doing all the things right" means he's going to tear strips out of them and then release them.

He might be saving their career by saying "you've got talent, but you need to work harder and your lifestyle needs to improve - then you'll have more of a chance of a successful career".

Sometimes the truth might hurts, but tough love could actually help some of these players.

 

Yes

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

25 minutes ago, Howjy04 said:

I may be wrong but I tend to think there were issues with some players which led to the demise of JA.Others hinted at it at the time.I don’t think DC suffers tawts gladly.

I did think back to Askey's comments when Clarke talked about the lack of fitness and poor attitudes. How the same players survived Askey's tenure or were signed under it is another matter.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, Rampant Zebra said:

If they are leaving, why say anything? They might play us in the future. 

I hope they do . 

Be rubbing my hands about Rodney tearing Mills or Fitzpatrick a new one or Whitehead puffing and panting as Conlon ghosts past him 

Very few if any of the rabble are likely to come back to haunt us 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Reporting Posts and Ignoring Users

    Admin don't read everything. Don't assume we'll spot rule breaking. Please report posts and we'll act on ASAP. If you're logged in use the orange report post button. If you're not logged in, please use the contact form

    If you can't get on with another user you can "ignore" them. Follow the link, type in their username and save - Click here

    Check with admin if you wish to sell/auction any items. We're happy to support good causes but check first - Contact us here

  • Friends of OVF




×
×
  • Create New...