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  1. 7 points
    It's totally conceivable that the club can set a lower budget this season whilst still strengthening the side quite considerably. For the last few years the football club has seen a huge amount of waste and poor recruitment. . The Shanahans are stumping up not just this season's budget but also paying for the last few years thanks to the previous owner very kindly lending the club all that money he wasted. Rebuilding the side was never going to be a one-window job. Rebuilding the club off the pitch will be, I'm sure, a similar exercise. Sensible management, sustainable growth, all the level-headed things that normal football clubs do, by their very nature require time and patience. We've all want a settled side for a long time but that can't be done overnight. I'm very wary of people being fobbed off with promises of Jam Tomorrow but while the club is being comprehensively restructured and de-normanned we have no choice but to give the new owners a fair amount of leeway.
  2. 7 points
    The Official Site reckons we are at 3,416 now. If that does not include the sold out VP seats and boxes, etc. then it should get close to 4000 you would have thought. It is good - considering the rubbish we've had to endure (on and off the pitch) for the last three years. And we'll probably sell a few more later on, plus the 10 ticket deals and the pay on the gate folk. There can't be many clubs that would have done as well as that at our low level, having just avoided non league football two years on the bounce.
  3. 6 points
  4. 6 points
    Ernie, you are, without a doubt, the most miserable bloke I have ever come across on t'internet. Just saying.
  5. 6 points
    Maybe his alleged misdemeanors were a response to problems he was having, rather than being the problem themselves. People need to know the whole story to understand why he was doing what he was doing, if in fact he was doing anything wrong. Maybe he didn't seek help the way he should have, but not everyone is comfortable asking for help. People make stark comments without knowing the effect and cause, and prefer to criticize, be cruel and judge. Maybe he deserves that, maybe he doesn't, but I guarantee that the majority of people reading this message are forming an opinion based on what other people have said on this forum with no first hand knowledge. Good luck Ricky.
  6. 5 points
    Great that it's all professional and kept in house but wires were clearly crossed regarding the budget It was picked up on social media yesterday & I received a few messages asking about the wording of John’s “obviously the budget is lower than last season” and my previous remarks that they are about the same. I replied with the following which I thought may be helpful to share: Hi y’all! John and I had a post match chat this evening and given that I had read this post I asked him what budget figure he felt we were working towards. I was very reassured that it was exactly the same as I thought too. So the concern (which I totally get given where we all were before) is how we have both phrased this season’s playing budget in comparison to last. We understand that it’s only natural (again, given where we’ve all been) to be wary about the club and its unity which leads people to see possible discrepancies. Throughout the club we are building a new era/culture through being together as a group. This grows the more we talk (we learnt the lesson of communicating electronically which may work for some but it didn’t for us!) and sometimes (because we aren’t managed and scripted) one of us will get it slightly awry as happened here. So did John or me get the wording right? Come on guys leave us some mystique UTV. KTF. Cx
  7. 5 points
    The budget is the budget, whatever it is, it's foolish to spend more than you can afford, it leads to places we don't want to return to. It's not about how much you spend it's what you buy.
  8. 5 points
    I met my nephew for a drink today and he works for a company that did some work for Smurthwaite's Port Vale. They never got paid - Smurthwaite apparently denied even having heard of the company - so were pursuing the matter through the small claims court. At this stage, Norman sold the club so the company thought they'd have to write off the several thousand pounds owed to them. Then, out of the blue, Kevin Shanahan contacted them, stating that they wanted to put things right and even though it wasn't their debt, they wanted to settle it as it was the right thing to do. My nephew went on to say that Kevin was one of the nicest, most decent people he'd ever dealt with. My nephew's a big Stoke fan too. Felt prouder of the club than I have in <ovf censored> years
  9. 5 points
    The struggles what folk go through especially in poorer areas is there in black and white. Thats why I was on about making football cheap as for just one end of the ground. How many football fans have been priced out of going . Id say quite a few If your a working man /woman and you work in a low paid job then you not going have a lot of desposable income left after making sure kids are clothed and fed . So I know how you feel I had that for years and years . Only now I have a beautiful girl who works with me life is fab . I will gladly let you have two vouchers out of my ten game vouchers as I probably will not be able go many games as gf loves going away most weekends. So UTV and hope your life luck improves it will just keep the faith
  10. 5 points
    Agreed on that, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Durrell is in a Vale shirt next season, especially if Whitfield leaves and frees up his wage. Anyone who thinks we should are could challenge for promotion next season is daft. We're coming off the back of 3 years of neglect on the playing side and many more years of neglect on the non-playing side. We've only just appointed a proper physio for crying out loud. As long as we have some stability, some better/attacking performances at home and some kind of strategy other than 'hope Brown keeps us in the game for 60 mins then we'll have a few shots and see what happens' then we should all be fairly happy. This season is about putting the foundations in place to build success upon in the future. Rid the club of the bad eggs and create a winning mentality. If you're expecting us to be giving Nicky Maynard 7k a week then enjoy the drive to Mansfield because that's not how we're going to do things.
  11. 4 points
    I agree. I think you can have a fortune but spend it on the wrong players. I want continuity both in terms of ownership and manager so for that I think we need to spend within our means and build over seasons not months. I still argue that all the local clubs have had their best spells when there has been continuity in the boardroom and in the manager's office - when the likes of Pulis, Rudge, Gradi were allowed time to build their teams under the same owners. For me we need to be looking at a long-term plan not splashing the cash and hoping. We've all seen what that did for the likes of Bury! I just hope the fanbase don't get impatient and expect instant success.
  12. 4 points
    Are you people for real? I would have a problem if it was the club putting out low quality images of a new kit. A fan leaking it - who gives a toss? It happens 92 times a season up and down the football league. There are entire websites dedicated to leaking new kits. If Scumthwaite was still here would you be making the same comments about it? Piling on the guy who was just trying to do us a favour with ‘poor form’ comments is embarrassing. Have you all come straight from the set of Last of The Summer Wine? Miserable old gits.
  13. 4 points
    If fans demand rapid improvement at a high cost then they will be disappointed. its very very clear this is a slow and steady development. If that’s not what people want then that’s down to them... I hope they enjoy their Saturdays out shopping. Carol and Kevin have the best interests of the club at heart... that’s what people will care about.
  14. 4 points
    I think the problem is mainly down to history mate. We were told how wonderful it was going to be when bratt came along but crap followed with Miller and administration.... we hoped for a bright future when Smurf brought promises of promotion via his sweety jar but found the club split into sections then threatened with administration. They say once bitten twice shy...... fans have been bitten many times over the last 17 years and savaged twice..... is it any wonder they are reluctant to believe? I believe it will be different this time..... others may take a little longer.... it will take time to repair the damage the previous owners have inflicted on confidence but the new owners are pulling it together nicely. I think 4,000, given the limited time they have had, is great news.
  15. 4 points
    Or leave it to the management team to sign the players rather than alerting other clubs to their availability. I know we all want to know but I would rather find out in two weeks that we had signed a really good player rather than find out tomorrow that he had signed for another club.
  16. 3 points
    For the final time. Lloyd will offer more next season than the following combined; Hardcastle - 0 games Pugh - 0 games Tongue - 0 games Benns - 0 games Calverley - 1 game Whelan - 0 games Edsel - 0 games As you say Ern... quality over quantity! and given he will be on roughly the same as Hardcastle (or there abouts) the rest represent savings that have helped us get Cullen and Amoo.
  17. 3 points
    Are the ones in your pay packet salted?
  18. 3 points
    I think, as Jacko says above, that sums it up admirably. It's like being in a parallel universe where primary school children have taken over the classroom and the level of debate and lack of maturity and common sense is staggering. There's a vacuum at leadership level across the board and very little joined up thinking.
  19. 3 points
    I wouldn’t take a manager talking about budgets too seriously. If we want the kid from Bradford PA it’s not going to help our negotiating position to make positive noises about our budget. The squad looks to have more than last year in terms of attacking threat. Personally think both full back positions look a little light and we clearly need a back up keeper.
  20. 3 points
    Am I right in thinking that last season we had Pope and Miller, oh and Whitfield up front. This season, we have Pope, Cullen, Bennett and Amoo, all attacking players. Midfield and defence at least as good, with a fit, so far, Manny. With more depth in most positions. It looks much more solid and fit for purpose. Am I missing something?
  21. 3 points
    Better stop the transfer rumours thread. Poor form to be leaking info.
  22. 3 points
    How has he done anyone a favour ? Are you that desperate that you need the new kit unveiled in a plastic bag and it happens 92 times a season what a load of rubbish it's poor form and it's tried the club the right to unveil in a professional manner Posting something Vale fans would be interested in on a Vale website isn’t doing those Vale fans a favour? I don’t get the resistance man. Who’s arsed. It’s a kit which gets re-released every summer. No ones died. Its great the club are going to do a professional release. Great, that’s what we’ve all wanted for years, some professionalism. Vale being added to the long list of clubs where info is leaked on a fan site a few days before? Whoopdy doo. They’ve had long enough put it out. We all know what they look like anyway since the teaser video. This isn’t Watergate.
  23. 3 points
    Since 2006 Ovf has conducted well over 450 'Competitions for prizes including the now popular 'Guess the Crowd'. During the forthcoming season - all things being well in OVF Towers WA - we will most definitely reach the magical number 500.
  24. 3 points
    Is that survey in the guardian supposed to be taken seriously? Commenting about immigration is racist?....... seriously? I would suggest that the only accurate indicator of increased hate crime is the number of successful prosecutions. Reporting what you think is a crime does not make it a crime, it may well be given a crime number or identifier because a report has been made but that doesn't make it a crime. Saying something someone doesn't like is not a crime... there is no crime of "hurt feelings". People overuse the word hate, it's been devalued. Do you really hate marmite? or sprouts? A phobia is an irrational fear... who's rational is used to decide it's irrational? ... I would suggest most people have a phobia.... insects, butterflies, enclosed spaces, open spaces..... you name it someone has a phobia.... is that a crime? ... should that be a crime?
  25. 3 points
    The view from across the pond - this is the first few paragraphs from an article in the Washington Post: British Ambassador Kim Darroch’s private comments about President Trump were not shocking for those in Washington. The overall opinion among much of the diplomatic elite here is that the U.S. president is “inept” and “insecure,” as Darroch wrote. Trump’s secretary of state once even reportedly dubbed the president a “moron.” Diplomats often trash their hosts, and it’s often well deserved. André François-Poncet, the French ambassador to Germany in 1935, wrote that Adolf Hitler was “obstinate, stubborn and mean to the point of madness.” A massive leak of U.S. diplomatic cables in 2011 featured one description of Italy’s Silvio Berlusconi as “feckless, vain and ineffective.” Darroch’s decision to resign, which he announced Wednesday, was not a reflection of the severity of his comments. He might have used more measured language, aware that Trump was uniquely sensitive to criticism and that his messages were at risk of being leaked, especially given the bitter political conflicts back home in London. But nothing he said was out of place for a diplomat in his position. If there is a breakdown in diplomatic norms here — and yes, there is one — it did not come from the British ambassador. What Darroch said in private about Trump was not unusual. What Trump’s diplomats do in public is what is really shocking. In Berlin, one U.S. ambassador openly undermines the government; another in Amsterdam became a laughingstock for refusing to answer journalists’ questions, and yet another in Jerusalem openly shows bias in Israeli-Palestinian negotiations. From Kenya to New Zealand, the ambassadors appointed by Trump have offended their hosts. Ultimately, the rot comes from the top.
  26. 3 points
    Speaking of full backs, Clark must have a twin as I’m sure I saw someone who looked just like him yesterday morning around the ground. But I still think left back is a problem area too with only Crookes for that role. Personally speaking I’d much prefer us to have a dedicated left back than a centre half come left back.
  27. 3 points
    Can you still ignore users? I'd love not to read Ernies drivel any longer.
  28. 3 points
    When you think back over the last two seasons we have had to suffer Harry Middleton, Antony De Frietas, Jack Stobbs, Chris Regis, Lawrie Wilson, Lewis Hardcastle etc. Nothing against those lads, a couple of whom have carved out half decent careers, Ryan Lloyd immediately stood out in a friendly as a class above all of those players from his first touch of the ball. Lloyd's first touch, the same as every permanent signing made so far this summer (up to Saturday) was top drawer. All of those players, Lloyd included worked smarter as well as harder, in 10 x 10 boxes dependant on where the play was. Lloyd was clearly comfortable performing in his role, under the conditions set by the manager. Now far be it for me to proclaim Askey as a tactical genius, he clearly had asked the players to play in a specific pattern, particularly with the ball. Lloyd was very comfortable and tidy in possession. The key thing for me is that he has been clearly brought in to do a specific job for us, a player JA knows and trusts, and knows his ability, what he can do, what he can't do, how he can affect the team. It seems to be a similar theme with every player who he has signed permanently, he's been prepared to wait for players (Cullen, Amoo etc.) as they are the RIGHT players for 1) the football club 2) the way we want to play. This gives me the confidence as a supporter that he knows what he is doing signing Ryan Lloyd, and that Ryan Lloyd is an improvement on players in the last two seasons, in particular the "8 or 9 who weren't even close to getting in the team", to quote our manager.
  29. 3 points
    Rob, with all due respect, shouldn't this thankfully be in Port Vale past?
  30. 3 points
    The main thing I would comment on is that he was always looking to get involved and didn’t hide, which I felt he may do given the reaction, in some quarters, to his return hasn’t been 100% positive. He looked neat and tidy when in possession, sharp, didn’t get pushed around, and worked hard off the ball. Certainly one of the better performers on the day. Looked to have filled out a bit too. This is just my opinion, Erniemossrules would’ve been better qualified to comment but unfortunately it seems from his earlier comments that his vision was obscured by thick bread and sausage meat.
  31. 3 points
    In view of Monty's 15 minute contribution to the season so far before getting injured, it looks like we will need cover on the left of midfield so perhaps it's as well we've got Lloyd? I thought he did OK on Saturday.
  32. 3 points
    Finally it looks as if we have a manager who can see that a winger was a priority. I bet Popey thinks that it is Christmas. Lets hope David 'feeds the Pope' and the other strikers. A big welcome from me and well done to the boss.
  33. 3 points
    Indeed,looks like we've got a decent sweeper?
  34. 3 points
    I will say again up to maybe a few months ago I used to enjoy reading what you posted,now it is just tedious,your endless digs are boring,i see you haven't commented on Lloyd for yesterday,maybe because it was only Kidsgrove then it was only Fleetwood then only Burnley then only Colchester,there is no way you would admit your one man vendetta against him was wrong if he does well this season,i was no way impressed with signing him but he is now a Vale player and so I will back him.... if we sign anymore players who played for Macc then fair enough if it improves our league position this season,you are just becoming pathetic now
  35. 3 points
  36. 3 points
    Colchester have had a load of cash in from Bristol City for Szmodics. All our transfer income has disappeared into a black hole in Leicestershire.
  37. 3 points
    To be honest, I didn't think it was very becoming of the club captain to go on about having sex with opposing fans' mums and whatnot but I guess I'm in the minority.
  38. 3 points
    They sold Jayden Stockley to Preston for 750,000 in January so obviously have some money to spend The Hugil money could help us the same , oh hold on a min someone trousered it all and left
  39. 3 points
    I think the club learnt from last season that ostracising players just caused discontent. Askey has said both remain Vale players and he will play them if they come back and prove him wrong. Interesting that Whitfield came third in the endurance tests as he's never looked capable of lasting 90 minutes in either of his seasons with us. It wouldn't shock me if both have good seasons. Rawlinson looks clumsy but he's brave, strong, tall and prepared to battle with a big centreforward, which we need at times in this league. We've had worse centrehalves so If he stays I wouldn't lose too much sleep and as the window moves to its conclusion it will get harder to replace him. I'd rather have him than take a last minute risk on an under 23 loan signing who might not be capable of handling the physical side of the game.
  40. 3 points
    On the Carol & Kevin podcast, she said that they weren't able to place the order until they had taken over in May so it is a miracle that we will be able to have the new kit before the season starts. She also said that next season the design will be done by October and the order placed by Christmas.
  41. 2 points
    I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. I saw Danny Pugh play on the left wing against Lincoln City. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
  42. 2 points
    Brilliant post let's just steady the ship
  43. 2 points
    Good luck for the new season. Build a buzz and get behind the players. Take it a game at a time and see where you end up . A new era new owners and hungry passionate players could be just the way. Most things are achieved in the mind let’s hope the players are winners before they put the shirt on as I believe the mental state before they take to the field as lost is game after game in the past. Good luck anyway my son and nephew will be there encouraging you along with the other members of our faithful. UTV from sunny Exmouth
  44. 2 points
    I don't understand how you came to that conclusion.
  45. 2 points
    There needs to be found a way of trying to bring people back towards the centre. If it wasn't for the ERG and their extreme views we would have left by now but they voted against their own government's deal and the rest is history. Polarised politics is no good for anyone. It brings out the worst in people and creates further divisions. I have found the last few years very depressing and offer the suggestion that we now live in a less tolerant, less respectful and more angry society - and that for me is not a cause for any celebration whatsoever.
  46. 2 points
    The lesser of the evils is a GE, let the focus of peoples anger be on the politicians who got us in this mess, Do not pitch the people v the people again in another idiotic referendum, it will not end well. Lets not forget, whilst people may be able to argue that brexit cannot be defined, it has many definitions, 52% of the people voted against the current EU relationship, this can not be simply ignored, as much as people try. im a fence sitter on brexit, i see both sides
  47. 2 points
    You could say that the new owners are poles apart from the last one
  48. 2 points
    With the additional season ticket sales, I would like to think that the budget might be able to be reviewed, although I suspect it is more likely that once Askey has his squad in place, it will be a case of trying to strengthen in January if we find ourselves at either end of the table. I'd like to see some kind of 'statement' signing - someone that would get bums on, and then off seats, now that it looks like there will be a few more of them at Vale Park. For all the encouraging noises coming from Askey, it's clear that we are not going to suddenly start outplaying teams with the same players that we finished last season with, unless Askey is a lower league Guardiola! The good thing is that his promoted Macc side were clearly better than the sum of its parts, so we should expect to see improvement. But we are still lacking quality - and in a smaller squad, with all of its versatility and togetherness, that flash of quality is what is going to elevate us above the humdrum pack around us. We should be positioning ourselves as a big player at this level.
  49. 2 points
    I see the ten match tickets have been priced and put in the public domain. 190 Lorne Street 180 Elsewhere . Will be getting one as thank you to the new owners . Will not be getting one because I believe in the players as there’s very few who I believe are good enough represent our terrific support. UTV
  50. 2 points
    The game has moved on from old school wingers hugging the touchline

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