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  1. Well done Vale, we battered you but didn’t really open you up much and you defended well. Great finish by the big lad up top. Good support too, couldn’t hear you much because of the acoustics but heard you loud a few times and could see you clapping even when we couldn’t hear you. Gutted we didn’t get the championship but it seems FGR deserved it in the end. Shame we couldn’t have got a draw off you to clinch it, but there you go, it’s still a brilliant season for us. Good luck in the play offs, hope you join us in league 1. Class for your players to give us a guard of honour when we returned to the pitch. Nice to see the mutual pitch invasion end well with shared support, clapping each other, etc and no bother, the way it should be. All the best 👍
    37 points
  2. Wow, what a night. Not just in football terms, but in my life honestly. I’ll remember that night forever regardless of the Mansfield result. We have been so professional all the way through this tie. We refused to be dragged into mudslinging, player comparisons, arrogance and tit-for-tat nonsense with a team that would do well to learn from his experience and come out as better people and football professionals. We complimented them when they mocked our style and player quality, we humbly and quietly went about our preparations while they scoffed and soaked up media coverage in the most cringeworthy and unjustifiable way. Meanwhile we were making changes, managing Proctor’s injury and adjusting to the sad news that he couldn’t play and utilising a belief that has clearly been built over a long period. Also bearing in mind, they have totally misunderstood and overlooked our style. We pass and overload on the wings, play into Wilson’s feet and pass it out from the back. We passed and moved better than them on the night, and if anyone was hoofing it forward trying desperately to find their only mobile striker, it was them. Don’t believe your own hype, watch the game without ego-blinkers. Dazzler getting sent off was not needed, I thought. Yes he’s out of his technical area, but the instigator, as always, often and uncalled for, was the nasty opposition captain and inspirer of much unneeded bad blood. Shamefully in the write up it says DC obviously lost his head due to family bereavement catching up with him. This comment should be complained about and subsequently an apology issued, because that is plainly wrong. In reality, it is what standing up to bullies looks like. That’s what giving an entitled group of egotists their own medicine is all about. Well done Darrell, you fight for us with a passion we haven’t had in a manager in my lifetime. Every single player to a man was superb. I think we were clearly the better side. Did Stone have to save a real, clear cut chance in the whole game? I mean a real opportunity like the 3 or 4 we should have put away? We held possession, overlapped like the Vale that seemed unbeatable on our winning runs and stood up firmly and strongly in the tackle for 2 hours. Absolutely fantastic. It’s not really right to mention individuals, but Smith as a defender is as good as they come. That back 3, in the right positions, doing the right jobs, is our best 3, and we’ve got it right just at the right time. The mentality of this group is genuinely inspiring. Any of the many personal and professional issues that have plagued Vale this season could have caused them individually or collectively to throw in the towel. We are with you and you are with us, the players have been, to a man, a credit to Carol and the club. They are going to want to drag this game out in the news for weeks; they have a lot of free time now after all. But we should not be sorry about the pitch invasion. Every club does it and it was 99% celebratory. Those fans that tarnished the evening with their antics should be found and banned and prosecuted, no doubt. But where is the protection against the abuse, goading and underlying inappropriate behaviours that rile the fans up? The club should just issue a blanket, ‘we don’t condone XYZ’ response and then move on. Don’t get bogged down in a war of words, let it go. For me this game is separate to the Mansfield game. This is a moral victory for the players, a cultural victory for the club, and a testament to the real work that is going on behind the scenes. It’s a new club, and all the people involved in taking us on this journey have my permanent gratitude. I’m sure if we lose against Mansfield all the little people behind their club badges, on their keyboards, cackling in the shadow of hate (Walsall, Crewe, Swindon, Stoke and whoever else wants it) will kid themselves that our pain is a win for them that blots out their greater and deeper flaws, shortcomings and delusions; but I say leave them to it. We are building so much, so fast, with amazing staff that will drive us forward season after season. I am so proud to be a Vale fan and our long term aspirations. I went down the route of trying to pre-numb the hurt and disappointment by expecting the worst throughout the game. I barely celebrated when we scored, I clapped quietly when we went close, I ignored McKirdy to the point of not looking in his direction while all those around me hurled abuse whenever he was within 100 yards. I wanted solemn contemplation upon defeat or humble grace in victory to be my only prescribed options. I didn’t blink when we missed 2 penalties in a row, I stood cross-armed, unmoved when McKirdy blazed over. But when Iandolo missed, I think I literally blacked out for 2 minutes. The relief, the joy, the intensity, everything I had be holding in just came out all at once. I’ve never spontaneously hugged a stranger before, and certainly not 10, while crying and singing, but now I have. What a night. Thank you football. Thank you Vale.
    30 points
  3. At 61 I am old enough to recall many memories of the Vale since my first game circa 1976. What I will say now is that should we qualify or NOT tomorrow is that we have and ARE totally transformed today. We ALL owe the new owners an enormous debt of gratitude and I thank them both........🥰
    26 points
  4. Rovers fan come in peace. I really hope you win the play offs. DC is one of the best managers around (we love him) and I’ve enjoyed many games against Vale. Top fans and club. Northampton will be on their arse and Swindon’s manager is clueless. you turned over Exeter so momentum is with you good luck see you next season
    25 points
  5. We are 1 goal down going into a playoff semi final AT home and people have given up on the club. ! You couldn't make it up.
    24 points
  6. I think Smith proved last night a million times over that he is nowhere near a non league defender some seem to think,the lad was immense
    21 points
  7. Well, we're all getting a lot off our chests tonight aren't we? Slagging off players who took us to third place not long ago, and who, if I read the forum right after Hartlepool, Salford, Oldham, were definitely going to get us promoted. No one is more gutted than me at todays abject display, but our readiness to turn all dirty guts after that game speaks volumes. Some of you need to give your head a wiggle. X is crap, Y is garbage, Z has never been any good, A is too slow, B is out of position... Really? I mean really? How fickle are you? This is the squad which lost its captain and playmaker many games back, just lost its best defender today of all days, and yes, they played like scared rabbits. And yes I'm massively frustrated, and yes I hate it when we're on the telly because we usually tank, and yes it always happens when a large crowd turns up. But can we count to ten and then make sensible reasoned comments before we trash players who have done well to get us where we are? And can we make up our minds about the January transfer window? One week it's a masterstroke of creative genius from our beloved DoF, the next week it's a wasted opportunity to buy Lionel Messi. Hello? Maybe they are playing with injuries, maybe they are not good enough, maybe Crosby got the subs wrong, maybe no-one will die in Ukraine today. Keep some perspective. I just wish we could hang on to common sense after a bitterly disappointing performance and not just go for our pet hate's throat to make ourselves feel better. Perhaps Nathan Smith is not a ball player, perhaps Worral's best days are behind him, but can we doubt that they have been on balance good players for the Vale - especially when the chips were down in our relegation struggles? When we needed our neck saving with a dire chairman and might have become a non- league team? There are a lot of people stamping their foot on here tonight saying "I want promotion now or it's not fair and the team are bottlers and a pile of crap". Well welcome to the real world - sometimes we lose, you don't get what you want, and you support a team that play like a team of strangers. Welcome to the Vale. It is enormously annoying, and I am furious at today's result given what was at stake, but I do not subscribe to the player assassination going on here. Really sad that so may fans have turned on the team in this way, even when we were abject. We're all frustrated. But get your heads up, for pity's sake. It's a long shot, but we might yet make the playoffs. That would be good, wouldn't it, after the trials and tribulations we have had this season? And we might lose in the playoffs as well. Had Stone palmed away their first goal, and someone blocked the shot for the second one (which was a very good goal I thought, damn them) and we had scraped home 1- 0 having played dreadfully, we would be lionising our players tonight for "digging out a result when not playing well". But we were awful, and lost, and we are all gutted. So it's open season for "who shall I hate today for ruining my dreams". It's all ifs, buts and maybes, but does anyone really think any of those players today got out of bed with the express view of playing like Mary Berry with a sore toe? I think they will all be very disappointed, as will the management and Carol. Time to get behind our team - one game to play.
    21 points
  8. I'm really sorry you guys have messed up the autos (I know there's still a chance, but I can't see you bettering Bristol Rovers' result) as I like Vale and wanted you to come up automatically with us so that next Saturday would be a party in all 4 sides of the ground. I'm now in the position that, although I now want you to come up through the play offs, I obviously want us to win on Saturday as that will confirm us as champions. But that might keep you down if Sutton can win at Harrogate and Swindon get a point at Walsall. What a crap situation for you guys after such a good season, I can understand the frustration on this forum. Reasons to be cheerful: Walsall are quite good at beating teams at the Bescot that need to get a result to go up (too soon?) Harrogate just battered FGR away from home, they could easily get a point or three against Sutton Sutton just got totally battered at home by nothing-to-play-for Bradford Newport lost a load of games on the spin, fans furious, manager disappointed and then played brilliantly at your place - why can't you do the same at Exeter? Newport physically dominated you all over the park and the referee was extremely lenient - we don't play like them, we're more likely to play football and you might exploit the space we leave as we attack I know we were pragmatic against you at VP and ground out a result a few weeks back, but we had key players out injured, a young lad making his debut in midfield, a key defender fell ill on the day, etc so we had to battle for a point - on Saturday we'll be going for it Saying that, I hope we beat you because we're then champions. Hopefully Sutton get whacked at Harrogate and you can relax and focus on the playoffs. You're all angry now but once the season ends and you're in the playoffs, the passion will come back very quickly. Good luck lads and lasses, apart from Saturday of course.
    20 points
  9. Probably the best I've seen at VP in my lifetime. Non stop singing and behind the lads all night. Granted there was a few idiots but Vale Park was a fortress tonight and I couldn't be prouder to be Vale We've seen some bad times in the last few years, but tonight was absolutely incredible. So chuffed Carol and Co got the love they deserve. Whatever happens in the final so be it. But tonight we rocked up in our numbers and really made the difference I'd like to think. Incredible night and one that will stick in the memory for years to come
    19 points
  10. "as for Clarke he needs to get some control over his emotions, he ain't help matters" Are you for real? !!!!! Stupid comment. !
    19 points
  11. I've just asked for two to be reserved for me in the Royal Box.
    19 points
  12. The majority of comments on here capture my thoughts. Mr Pope did not learn from his first one game ban for twitter comments. He continued to spout rubbish, and that led to him missing the first 6 games of season 20/21. He never recovered from that poor start and his fitness and readiness for games was seriously diminished. Two managers during that season declined to pick him very much, that tells a story. His disrespectful comments about some Manchester City players were laughable coming from a Div 2 player. His post full of fantasy about his scoring 30 or 40 goals a season if he was in the Premier League evidences that he lacks the wit to write clever humour. He has zero humility. Worse of all his continued sly digs at our management and Captain seem to me to evidence a bitter and twisted mindset from an individual who has been found out. I never warmed to him as a person, although I respected him as a player for what he did on the pitch. I believe he was a negative influence in the dressing room because although he was a major presence his standards for fitness, lifestyle, use of social media and PR did not set the right tone for young players who are easily influenced. If Mr Pope wishes to be seen in a positive light by fans in his retirement from his playing days then he needs to learn from his numerous past mistakes. At the moment he seems intent on repeating them. As a lifelong Port Vale fan and our second ever highest goalscorer he still has enormous credit in the bank, he needs to ensure that goodwill does not slip away by his peevish comments.
    19 points
  13. I find it amazing how fans can be berated for being disappointed and angry after today and the last 20 years of being a Vale fan. It really doesn't matter if the players got us third a fortnight ago - it matters where they finish. We've been let down, again, by Port Vale footballers and it's understandable that fans are gutted tonight and angry at an undoubted bottling. It's very sanguine and holier than thou to label justified criticism of poor performances of Port Vale players as 'assassinations', 'dirty guts', and 'hatred', but in reality there is thousands of fans tonight who, again, have been let down by their team, having spend hundreds/thousands and countless hours supporting them up and down the country, to be rewarded by completely spineless losses against two teams with nothing to play for, in front of sold-out crowds with a cost of living crisis ongoing. In my view, the ire should be aimed at the well-remunerated and superbly supported footballers (who, rightly, have their backsides wiped for them by this brilliant club) who have left children going to bed tonight in tears, not at the Vale fans who've put up with decades of rubbish and have witnessed a rare chance of joy snatched away by footballers unable to get the basics right. Maybe I am impatient for success; when you take your 90yo Grandfather, who missed the 1953 semi-final as he was on national service for his country, back from the game, crestfallen, and he comments that may be the last time he sees Vale live, your heart breaks a bit. He, and we, deserve far more than this complete collapse. I can't take the view that maybe it'll be next year, and can't content myself with a record long stay in the 4th tier. You want to enjoy moments with your loved ones. I'm sorry, mate, your post is well-intentioned, but I can't agree with lambasting fans tonight for criticising players for underperformance when a real opportunity for success was on a platter for the most deserving fans in the country.
    19 points
  14. Just to put some clarity to the allocation of tickets prior to official release. This furore has mainly come from Tony Dyche and myself on social media. Over the past few weeks we've been speaking to folk at away games that have started to comment on the apparent lack of prominent vale fans having to queue for high demand tickets, and criticism and sarcasm aimed at said fans always having the best seats at matches, but are never seen at the front of any queues. It started as a bit of an awkward one as, the fans being mentioned are the ones that go to every match come what may. In one respect, if anyone's deserving of preference then it's hard to deny their merits. Openly and probably unfairly on here and PVO, Jacko has been called out on that. We all know there's a group that would go to Mariupol if we drew them in some cup. Now, aside from that group of folk, others have also been noticable and I had one or two other folk also questioning how these folk have managed to get high demand tickets without queueing. This led us both to do a little digging. In no time, an avalanch of information was forthcoming from people in person and by text messages and PM's online. The more we dug, the worse it got. I have also been presented screenshots of texts requesting tickets. It reached a point a few days ago where we both blew our lids, particularly over Exeter. So, laid out bare, those that have had priority reservations over season ticket holders are as follows: Players - Normal practice. Unknown quantities but was told 4 family members of 1 player were sat near someone I know at Exeter. Staff - Normal practice I assume. Unknown quantities Fans that undertake voluntary work at the club - unknown quantities but verified Box holders x 8 per box - Verified by box holders but some box holders unaware of available privilige and understandably angry VP's - 1 each presumably but cannot verify (seen texts to ticket office myself for requests for reservations) Official Travel coach users get them reserved (Not sure if all or a select few) - verified by several users of official travel Staff of Synectics / Hubb foundation - verified by someone who works for one of them but can't recall which Backdoor sales to mates of ticket office staff - this was openly happening in the food queue at Salford away We can of course argue the merit of each of those and we'd all have a differing opinion of where the line should be drawn. It is clear, however, that the volume going out and the hidden manner in which they do so leaves something of a sour taste, when tickets become high demand. Basically, hundreds of tickets were flying out of the back door before reaching sale. It is entirely wrong of the club to state that X amount of tickets have been allocated and will go on sale to ST holders as priority, when that is blatantly not the case. The fact that the club were filming the huge queues for Exeter has rightly upset a few, because the club knew full well that of the 1300 tickets allocated, the actual figure on sale is rumoured to have been no more than 4-500. Alongside that, Vale still honoured tickets that had been bought through the Exeter website debacle to fans that did not hold season tickets. We know fans that chanced their arm and they were sat there awaiting their collection in an envelope with their name on. On top of which, despite hundreds of season ticket holders being turned away after queueing for hours to purchase on the day, we know of one instance where a non-season ticket holder that was refunded for their tickets received a phonecall from the club to ask if they still wanted them?! So, that basic lack of trust in the system has led to many fans braving the night to get in line. I read a comment above saying none of those moaning about the ticketing were there last night, they are ll the die hards. My mate Tony Dyche, who has been probably the biggest voice over this, was number 4 in the queue, pitching up in his bivvi bag at 10pm to spend the night on the floor to get his and my tickets. Now, all that said, does it mean we want Carol's head on a pole? Of <ovf censored> course not!! I don't need to explain my background to many of you on here, but just because the Shanahans have done a fabulous job with our club so far, it should not mean that if and when certain things are lacking and need addressing, we are not entitled to call them out on that. They wouldn't have the club in the first place if we'd taken that approach as fans in times past. And that's all this is. The ticket office have badly let them down and has left an unfortunate sour taste on an otherwise excellent season. Given what we as a fan base have had to endure for the past 20 years, it's disappointing to hear that this behaviour is still present. We expected better. Just <ovf censored> treat us fairly. We still have shallow wounds.
    18 points
  15. You mean we pay the price of having a player doing the work of two (c.f. Robbie Earle) pressing, chasing, hassling, ball winning, turning 50-50s into 60-40s and still having a second go if he loses the first challenge, driving us forward... and scoring goals Slaven or Hughes would be proud of? Modest, level headed... I could go on, but I don't have his stamina. That's our Player of the Season you're talking about.
    18 points
  16. Leave Carol Shanahan out of it. She’s a fantastic owner, and has saved the club.
    18 points
  17. Exeter fan wishing Port Vale all the best in the quest to get into League One. Excellent bunch of fans, lovely club and a top Manager. See you next season
    17 points
  18. I see one or two have already stated ‘what if this’ ‘what if that’ about previous games . Don’t torture yourselves or us it’s gone ! Look forward , we’ve finished 5th over 46 games a remarkable achievement and excellent progress after these past few years ! We’re still in there with a great chance, be positive and let’s see where it takes us 👍 UTV
    17 points
  19. I just can’t believe what I’m reading , I was expecting to come onto the form to see the Walsall game put to bed and focus turned to Newport Instead we are using the old match thread to slam a player who has been one of the main reasons our form improved and got us up to 3rd in the League in the first place . A position that If you look back to February flattered us , not that I was complaining. We now still have a chance of finishing in said 3rd spot. Or maybe a day out at Wembley and still promotion . If you can only focus on the negative of some players at this stage in the season I fear that you may never have any happiness following this small , mostly skint , Lower league club. When these games are over please hammer that key board like the warrior that you are ! Don’t worry mr Wilson will be off to league 1 along with mr proctor with or without us … so don’t stress it !
    17 points
  20. I thought it might go to penalties, and as soon as it did I wrote us off. We're not the sort of club who, since I started attending in 2002, does things that makes their fans happy. A penalty shootout win to go to Wembley was beyond the realm of possibility. When we missed two of our first three, I was barely surprised. Classic Vale. Predictable, bottling Vale. My phone started to buzz with gleeful rival messages, and I resigned myself to the crushing disappointment that has been embedded with my relationship with this club. Maybe next year. McKirdy; a player who I've defended up to this point, and I think Vale fans were well and truly rattled by him in the first leg. He had a truly disastrous night. An anonymous performance and a woeful penalty miss, which changed the momentum of the shootout. He was playing for himself, not his team, and Swindon fans should feel aggrieved. I got wound up by his petulance but it was clear he was trying far too hard to make the headlines about him. I didn't really believe until Stone saved the 5th. I allowed myself a tiny bit of hope. Our sudden death penalties were all top drawer, a testament to the players who a few weeks ago I was labelling bottlers. When Iandolo skied it, I can't really recall what I did, but came to much further down the Railway than I'd started. It feels silly picking out individuals, as everyone was outstanding. Smith, in his natural position, was colossal. Wilson, despite appearing to be finished about 30 minutes in, put in a proper leader's performance. The two of them were at another level tonight, supported by Benning and Harratt, who I thought had their best ever performances for Vale. We still have a job to do. Tonight is for nothing if we don't beat Mansfield. It's nice to feel like we can be one of those normal clubs who do good things and have happy fans. An all-timer at Vale Park we'll remember forever. The fans deserve that more than anyone.
    16 points
  21. McKirdy is 25. He made his league debut 6 years ago. On loan at Stevenage. Before this season he had started 36 league games and scored 10 goals in 5 years. Villa didn't want him, Crewe didn't want him, Newport didn't want him, Carlisle didn't want him and Vale didn't want him. The Swindon fans were singing, "he left cost you're <ovf censored>". The reality is we kicked him out because he was <ovf censored> and Swindon only took him because they were in such a state at the start of the season that they were signing anyone with a pulse. Perhaps someone has given him a good talking to during the close season and he has suddenly realised that he was chucking a career away. Criticising Vale for not keeping a player who was rubbish for us and didn't want to be here is daft. And why wasn't he booked for that ridiculous dive just before half time??
    16 points
  22. Fans forum!! Never read so many negative comments. Please stay at home on Thursday night. We need to get Vale Park rocking, and get behind the players not moan and groan about them, you've got all summer to do that. Two good goals from Mckirdy were the difference, overall there wasn't a great deal in it. Fans can lift this team on Thursday night, it's far from over.
    16 points
  23. Let's take a moment to appreciate how fantastic Ryan Edmondson was today. Ran his socks off and gave absolutely everything. He hasn't scored many this season but his work rate today was just phenomenal and I hope he continues with that momentum into the play offs.
    16 points
  24. So, 24hrs after watching the game, thought I’d chuck in my 2 penathworth Am I gutted that we’ve lost the last 3 match – too right I am. I am thoroughly pissed off from yesterdays performance; add that to Walsall and Rovers (who were way the better team on the day) and I’m gutted. Like everyone else I got my hopes up that Vale would get promoted this season. Add to that I my heart is full of pride for what Carol, Kevin and all the Vale staff have done to take us from being an utter joke in the football league to a wonderful Community Club to be 100% proud of. Yesterday, we were abject in the first half, far better but still not good enough in the second half and they were better (like Rovers) than us and deserved the win (though Azaz was superb) My view on this is that we’re just not ready yet. In some ways, part of me doesn’t want to get promoted this season nor be in the play-off’s. Why…?? Simples, really. As others have said, some of the teams around us have been building for years to get promoted into the next league – look at Exeter and FGR in particular, add Newport and others. In contrast, we’ve added (I think the number is) 23 NEW players this season alone, we’ve been riddled with injuries (yes – I know, as have others) and we’ve had the personal issues the Gaffer has had to face (in all honesty I don’t think I’d have made it back from what the poor man has been through) BUT, as yet, we haven’t got it right and we need more time. Some of the players in the squad absolutely will not be wearing a Vale shirt next year (possibly some that were on the pitch yesterday) and new faces will need to come in. For my mind – and, again, as others have said Crosby was put in to a position he never asked for and, on the whole, I think he’s done a good job; remember it was only a few short weeks ago we were all singing his name at Hartlepool. Here's the thing; at the start of this season no one really thought that, at one point – we’d be second, or that we spend the vast majority of the season in the play-off places, or that we had any chance at all of a ‘successful’ season. But we have; we’ve done far, far better than anyone expected. And I genuinely get the let down and disappointment that everyone is feeling. But we need to forget that and concentrate on tuning the team to try and win the league next season. In my mind I think it would be far better to concentrate on getting things right and building slowly, say in the way that Exeter have done, and ensure that - when we do go up, we stay up and are a side to be feared. From there we build again and look to try and get in the Championship. I fear that, if we went up now, we’d drop straight back down again the following season. There have been times this season when we have played absolutely sublime football and that, in my mind, gives us a glimpse of just want we can do when we get the team right and play the correct system. Add to that several of the opposition managers say we are the best team in the league that they’ve played, this season. BUT, again, we are just not quite there yet. A lot of times we’re playing the wrong system and using players out of position to do it; many have already stated that Proc and Wilson should be playing literally around the width of the box but, because we’ve had so many injuries and had to shoehorn players in to various positions, we’re just not in the right places at the right time (as others have said look where we played Taylor against BR). When we do we look utterly terrifying – we need to get that boxed off and working properly. That will take us another year and most of that work will come in the closed season. And yes, we miss Conlon, Jones and Gibbo, now Walker and Hall (hopefully he’ll be back for Exeter) plus other players playing week in week out carrying knocks. One final thing: there are reports of people (fans – sic) shouting at Carol and Kevin after the game yesterday and giving them abuse. Please, if you are one of them, please stop coming to Vale Park. There’s another bunch of folk who like to hate who live just down the D-road, I’m sure they will welcome you with open arms. Carol and Kevin are the best thing to happen to this club for the past 50-years. On to Exeter; tough gig and wouldn’t it just be like Vale and pluck a two-Nil win out of the bag, play like Brazil and frustrate all of us even more. By the by, I will never give up supporting them. UTV and KTF
    16 points
  25. Predictable Port Vale bottlejob. The last three games has to rank amongst the largest collapse in the club's history. Stoke, Crewe, and Walsall fans are laughing at us, and rightly so. The last three games has been an embarrassment and an affront to the fans. Utterly diabolical performance. I had low expectations and I'm still disappointed. Not a single player emerges with credit, and some were outright shocking. Where were the leaders? Nathan Smith can't be allowed to touch the ball with his feet. Proctor seems to have collapsed in the last few. Distinctly second best against a team with 1 win in 8. Another season in League 2, making it our longest run in the 4th tier since the late 1940s. I wouldn't have 'snapped your hand off' in August if you offered me 'go away to the title challengers and need a point to finish in 7th'. I've got a bit more ambition for my club in the lowest tier of professional football. I'd have openly laughed in your face if you offered me this after Hartlepool. I'd have thought you'd lost it. Look at us now. 'Not being Oldham' isn't comfort for what has happened these last few weeks. We can all pick arbitrary dates and say 'well, it's better than what we expected then'. On Good Friday I was almost certain we were up. Shameful, shameful bottle. A poor January shafted us. We had one January signing in the 11 today. 1 off the bench. 5 not featuring. A waste of a window which absolutely decimated squad depth. Three goalkeepers, and none of them good enough. What on earth is Stone doing before the corner for their 2nd? We were desperate for a goal and all we had to add to the team was a 19 yo with 0 goals in 10 in non-league. Tried to be far too clever with this 'player trading' nonsense and ended up with a wafer-thin first 11 nearly entirely assembled in a good summer window, which crumbles when Brad Walker inevitably breaks down + no options off the bench + subpar goalkeepers. I can't be as philosophical as some fans. 'Roll with the highs and lows, enjoy every moment'. Where are the highs? 6 seasons in 4th tier football? More adminstrations than promotions since I started attending in 2001? Bottling a 5 point lead with a series of abject performances against teams with nothing to play for, culminating with a dire display on Sky Sports. Being a Vale fan is just low after crushing low. I attended today with my 90yo Grandad and I want something to celebrate with him. We can't keep muttering 'next year!'. I'm sick of it. We had 90 minutes against a finished team, and in classic Vale fashion, bottled it. Our home capacity being 8,700 is dreadful. Proper Barrow/Crawley territory. What has happened to our stadium? Rapid investment needed instead of refitting the tunnel and the Lorne Street getting new tellies. I feel for the fans who queued up for hours and have spent a shedload on Exeter, for what is now a fairly pointless game. Feel for the lads who go into work/school Monday and, again, get ripped by gleeful rivals. Feel for Carol too. Serious inquest needed as to what has happened. We go again! Next year! Keep the Faith! ad infinitum.
    16 points
  26. What an utter load of sh!te
    16 points
  27. Yeah let's ditch the system weve played all season, is familar for the players and that's got us 1 point off third and one of the best GD in the league, at the most crucial point of the season. Glad you're not in charge [emoji38]
    16 points
  28. I think the tweet with the sideswipe at Conlon is pretty disgusting. The same Conlon who has been scouting , the same Conlon who has come onto a few away pitches on his crutches to thank the away support. That Conlon eh Tom ? Absolutely no need for those comments, obviously i don't know Conlon from Adam but from his interviews and demeanour and the way folk speak of him is the very reason he is captain and a worthy one at that.
    15 points
  29. I think Top Pope has encouraged an erosion of the respect and affection most fans had for him. As a league 1 & 2 player he did quite well for us and it could be argued his goals kept us in the football league but where is his dignity and class post Vale? It's bizarre how many people who have been integral parts of the Port Vale machine over the years who then cut ties with the club because of who the owners or management are. It's only the fans that remain a constant, who are there through thick and thin, rain or shine. Its also strange how people purport to be Vale fans to gain favour to further their own ends. Is Mo Chaudrey a real Vale fan? Do I remember him leading the singing in the paddock? What happened to lifelong Vale fan Bill Bratt does he still come to games? I wonder what Smurthwaite did with his black and white scarf? I think even our greatest and most loyal servant, Roy Sproson stayed away from Vale for years. It's the fans that matter, the moaner who sits behind you in the paddock, that family of four in the Lorne Street. Tom Pope should consider himself lucky to have played for our club and given his own song, he has fulfilled every Vale fan's dream, What is his problem?
    15 points
  30. Really didn't enjoy the Sky coverage. So so biased towards Swindon, an ex player on the side lines alongside Taylor, the Exeter manager, who most definitely has something against us... probably not surprising after we stopped him winning a championship. Belittling of Vale's football throughout the show. Seemed to be a general theme of Vale being the rough & ugly bully boys & Swindon the Man City of League 2. That's the theme they rolled with. Even after the game in the player interviews you've got Williams saying if they can avoid the nasty challenges on Thursday they should be okay! When we got it down & played we did well. Thought couple of players had shockers, Smith was terrible & Gibbo was appalling. Hopefully they can put it right Thursday. 1 goal, still anyones game. Wasn't impressed with Swindon but they might look a different side away from home. Without McKirdy they would be nowhere. & I agree, he is a <ovf censored>, but he thrives off it. His whole game is about being on the wind up, that's what motivates him. His interview after the game... "wouldn't call Vale my ex club as I never played." There's a reason for that you <ovf censored> stirrer. Never wanted to be here in the first place. Come on Vale, they think they've got this won the way they were going on at full time & after the game. They look <ovf censored> at the back, just attack! I'd like see Harratt play a part Thursday, they like to fanny about at the back & he's very good at closing down the ball. You don't get that with a half fit Proctor unfortunately. Let's make a great atmosphere Thursday night guys, I'm more confident than I was before kick off today.
    15 points
  31. Match prediction: It will rain pre match to get everyone nice and wet. Plenty of Arguments with stewards about getting more turnstiles open. Sun will then appear. Inside the ground we will moan about the price of beer and pies, whilst the smokers argue with the stewards about smoking. Stewards then retreat. Pre match sun is blazing in our eyes, and we're all calling the away end a dump. Five mins before kick off the first chorus of super vale away. Quickly followed by a song about a sex offender on the opposite side..this song will be the most sung song of the day.. Game starts less then 5 mins in, someone will shout Come on Vale these are s##t (guaranteed) lots of Swindon pressure first half, last ditch defending from vale. Tackles flying in everywhere, cue the chant you dirty northern barstewards from the Swindon fans. 43 min Swindon take the lead through non other than Mr Mckirdy, cups his ears to the vale fans, a few vale fans run to the front to shout abuse and offer out the police. Half time it starts raining again. Beer and pies run out, lots of moaning about Benning and Smiths contribution, and Stone should have saved it. Couple of half chances from vale second half. Stone down injured whilst we have a team talk on the hour mark. The sun comes back out. Wilson subbed on 70 mins. Vale corner on 76 mins, Smith heads it home, vale end erupts, a few people fall over the hoardings in their excitement. The same fans slating Smith at half time start singing, He's one of our own, and comparing him to Maldini. Mckirdy does his hamstring in the 83rd minute much to the joy of the away end. Nervous finish to the game, 6 minutes added time, nobody can work out why. Full time 1-1 draw, everyone's celebrating in the away end. Starts raining again, so we are nice and moist for the car journey home. Praise and grumble is on in the car, Ben rings up overjoyed and positive, followed by Carl who is downbeat and negative. Great day had by all.
    15 points
  32. I don't know if anyone else is feeling like me this morning, but I seem to be a bit calmer and somewhat resigned to taking whatever this afternoon throws at us. For the last three matches I had been nervously anxious with expectations that we would win those games and was of course, mightily disappointed, but today those expectations are far lower and therefore anything positive will be an absolute bonus! Does that make sense?
    15 points
  33. Of the three keepers I think Covolan is the best actual keeper ignoring his two moment of madness.
    15 points
  34. Vale have a chance of the autos or an excellent chance of the play-offs and if you'd have given me those options at the start of the season with two games to go I'd have snapped your hand off. What's done is done.
    15 points
  35. Having been to the game today the observations I would make are: 1. Swindon deserved the win and McKirdy’s finishing was the difference between the sides. 2. Their first goal was really poor marking but their second was a fine finish. 3. They were really rocking at the end and panicking, kicking the ball any where. 4. To have more possession than Swindon on their patch was an unexpected surprise. It was a shame however we didn’t do more with it. 5. I thought they ran out of steam halfway through the second half so bearing this in mind we must be patient on Thursday. Keep it tight and chances will come but we must deal with McKirdy better in the second leg. 6. We really missed our two most creative midfielders today - Conlon and Walker. I’m not sure we can win the playoffs without them. 7. Really disappointing that we didn’t even come close to selling out our away allocation for such a big game. 8. The fans who went were pretty quiet throughout. I know this wasn’t helped by the weather, the performance and the surroundings but still disappointing hopefully we can all make more noise on Thursday. 9. The EFL should make it a condition of membership that away fans have the same viewing conditions as home fans. The Swindon away end is a disgrace and I thought those conditions had been left behind in the 70/80’s. 10. It’s still possible to progress but we’ll need to neutralise the threat of McKirdy far more, be far better in possession and hold the ball up far more in the final third. Finally if we we fail to win the playoffs, I still think it’s been a season of progress and the club is moving in the right direction. UTV.
    14 points
  36. Well I don't Joe, and it's just my opinion. Some of your posts (which I enjoy reading by the way) have been demanding success as if it were a God given right. It isn't. Children going to bed tonight in tears? Tell them what matters in life and quickly - much as we love it, it's a game of football, and nobody died out there today. We're all disappointed, but what you call lambasting fans is simply pointing out that they are fickle and very ready to run down players when things don't go their way. Do you think those "well remunerated" players wanted that to happen? Does "having their backsides wiped" include all the work they do in the community? I think you might be mistaking them for Premiership poseurs. They are 4th division footballers who have hit a bad patch in the season, just at the wrong time. It's a shame for the older generation who may not see success unless it happens quickly, and I sense your frustration about your grandfather - that is indeed sad. But he and we deserve more? Why? On what basis, just rocking up every week? It doesn't work that way unfortunately - Vale fans are loyal but walking through the turnstile doesn't guarantee success. There are no vouchers we can cash in for attending lots of games that mean we get promoted - it's not a board game. I understand what you mean about a "rare chance of joy" being snatched away - perhaps you are loading too much on a set of professional footballers? A little bit melodramatic putting you chances of joy in the hands of some professional sportsmen who may not get it right now and again? "Perform for me or I'll sulk and blame you for ruining my life". It's not a way to live. We're all disappointed. I've followed this club for 53 years, and I've seen the ups and downs. And if there is a cost of living crisis on, then people make their own choices about whether to buy a ticket or not - you can't simply blame the club for adding to their cost of living crisis by playing fixtures - people make their own call. You seem to be blaming the Vale for everything going wrong in your life. There are a bunch of MPs in Westminster and a maniac in Russia I would blame first about a cost of living crisis - why are you blaming your club for making them unhappy in a cost of living crisis? My guess is that the fans who went to the sold out (but there seemed to be a lot of empty seats) match knew what they were letting themselves in for. So don't be amazed at "people being lambasted" in the way you viewed my post. I simply hold the view that a lot of the comments on here were over the top and ridiculous. In my view, and that's all it is, some of the comments on here over a game lost went way beyond. It always happens when we lose a game we feel we ought to have won, needed to win, or we wanted to win so much on behalf of our children and parents and grandparents. But putting the hours in and demanding success off the back of it just doesn't work I'm afraid. My post was all about the knee jerk types who are very quick to wade into the players when things go wrong, like they never had a bad day at work themselves. Fine if you think they are spineless, I am pretty fed up with the team's response today too, but in my view, a lot of todays's comments were unnecessary. I would love to think that saying "no excuses Vale" ahead of the game actually meant anything - it just doesn't. Calling them bottlers just vents our spleen and gets some of the frustration out. But it's not what I call supporting my team, fed up though I am tonight. I also want to enjoy moments with my loved ones, but I've learned that expecting that to happen at a football match because "we deserve it" doesn't always work. So thanks for seeing that my post was well intentioned. I think yours is too. I think we just differ in how much stock we hold in an imperfect (ie normal) bunch of human beings who kick a ball about for a living. Give it time to stop hurting, and ask yourself whether this will matter in six months time - and then see who looks holier than thou by placing such expectations on a football team. It won't be me.
    14 points
  37. The most disappointing thing about today is the lack of reaction from our players when we go a goal down. No reaction at all to the opener, players walking around not closing down, no fight, grit or determination to get a foothold into the game and start playing. It has basically taken a bollocking at halftime when the players were sent out very very early to get going for short spell until they conceded, again with no reaction. Where is the charecter? Can you imagine Bristol Rovers, Exteter, Mansfield or Northampton doing that? No me neither. Our lot just felt sorry for ourselves. We have now lost 3 on spin, 2 against teams with absolutely <ovf censored> all to play for and they have shown more spirit, desire,aggression and have out worked us. <ovf censored> SHAMEFUL. If we do make the playoffs I really don't see how we will progress any further. The matrix needs to review its personality of people preference. I want to see a horrible bastard in the defence and midfield next season, someone who is going to smash people and dig players out when they go hiding. We are a mentally weak team, without no No.1 GK, We don't have a player who can dribble and beat a man from midfield to make things happen and desperately lack pace. These areas will need to be addressed if we want to finish higher than 8th!!! Some big calls will be need in the summer to REFRESH this squad.
    14 points
  38. We have to focus on ourselves. A win v Newport sees us seal a playoff spot & take things to the last day. Other teams are winning their must win games as proven tonight, now it's time for us to show up on Monday. Hope the boys are getting some rest & recoup in ready for a big effort infront of the TV cameras. We're 4th having played the same number of games as everybody else in the league. We also have the 3rd best goal difference in the league, just! People waxing lyrical about Mansfield, Bristol Rovers etc... at time of writing we are above them. You really can't grumble. I fancy Exeter to win the title, they seem to be a winning machine. Let's hope they can pick something up at Northampton & don't celebrate too hard tonight! No point thinking what could have been, the reality is we are where we are after 44 games. All still to play for & personally if we do end up in the playoffs, we need to go in with a nothing to lose mentality. I'd fancy us over 2 legs against any of the sides who are in there (other than Swindon if they find a way to sneak in) If you make the final it's anybodys game on the day, toss of a coin depending which team shows up. I've said it before but try & enjoy it Vale fans. 12/13 aside this is the first time we're up there challenging in any league in 20/25 years. We've all craved these games & experiences & have been starved (which is where I think alot of the anxiety amongst fans has come from) Enjoy the end of the season, be positive, back the boys & let's see where we end up. We'd all love games v Sunderland, Ipswich, Derby but lets not lose sight of reality. Absolute worst case... we're challenging again next season with a good squad & manager & a great owner who will want to push on. Look at Oldham & Scunny. UTV - Chill out & try to enjoy it. These are unfamiliar times!
    14 points
  39. Sent this to Radio Stoke tonight but it didn’t get read out. Not sufficiently miserable I assume. I do wish people would not respond so dogmatically to one or two results at Vale. After the Colchester game callers to your programme were saying we wouldn't make the play offs. Yet look what happened? Carl suggested we only got a draw against Exeter because of their injuries. Yet look at the number of times we have won games with all our strikers or all our midfielders missing. Tom Conlon, last years player of the season and a member of the League 2 team of the season has played less than half the games. The same applies to Proctor and Gibbons. We have to chop and change the team week after week and in the circumstances what we have achieved is astonishing. If fans think that the celebrations at Hartlepool made the players think they had done the job what on earth do they think all this negativity will achieve. Stop moaning, keep the faith and keep praying. It's not over and there have been no sightings of fat ladies yet around Burslem!
    14 points
  40. I’m really hoping we beat Barrow on Tuesday to guarantee promotion, but then also win at Northampton on Saturday to give you a chance of grabbing third spot. I’ve said before on here that I’d love Vale to go up, as long as we do too. Don’t want to be the merchant of doom though, but our record at Northampton is shocking. Whenever we’ve played there it’s been windy and we’ve been battered by a stronger team, like we were at Tranmere on Monday. Fingers crossed we do the business for you.
    14 points
  41. When DC took over we were in danger of getting relegated, 18 months later we're all gutted because we have dropped out of the top 3 with 2 games to go, just let that sink in, imo top 10 would have been good going this season
    14 points
  42. Can we stop shaming the casual supporter who so far only comes for the big ones - do we want big crowds or what.
    13 points
  43. I've not been massively nervous in recent weeks. I'd go into my typical 'expect the worse' mode which has protected me well as a Vale fan. I've just been expecting things to go wrong to mitigate the blow when they do. It's worked a charm to this point. I've sat here at lunch and genuinely considered the impact of promotion this season, of how starved of success we've been, how close it is, of how I'm sick and tired of being rinsed for supporting Vale, and how much I really, really don't want to be in League 2 next season. Tonight's the game with the most riding on it since the Chesterfield game in which loss equalled non-league. Go through tonight and I think we can deal with Mansfield. If we go up, it transforms the club, allowing Carol to sort out the ground and invest in the burgeoning infrastructure. We could enter a proper 'new era', away from this tinpot abyss, welcoming big clubs every other week and get money flowing back into Burslem. The 1k+ Junior Valiants see success early doors, locking down their attachment to the club and dragging parents into the club shop in July. Robbie celebrates Vale promotion at his homecoming concert and Those Tricky Whites are back. Rudge gets his statue and we start to enjoy some of the days we haven't seen since his zenith. Lorne Street gets finished and we finally move on from the last edifice of the Port Vale banter years. We leapfrog Crewe, leave Walsall in the dust, and can focus on hunting down our actual rivals for the first time in a while. Don't get it done, and there's absolutely no guarantees next season. Another season of low revenues and disastrous away followings. Dog's abuse on whatsapp tonight. Walsall, Crewe, Stoke, gleeful that we've bottled it. Swindon fans holding their attendance trophy aloft. McKirdy machine-gunning the Railway as grown men sob. We start from scratch in what will probably be a more competitive league. Whilst we will be in a good position to get it done, football is too volatile and random, and there's just as much chance we fall short once more. It's much better to be in a 'positive pressure' game than the existential battles Smurthwaite seemed to enjoy, but I'm not enjoying myself at present. I'm sure when the dust settles some of us may be able to sanguinely say it's been a 'good season', but it really, really won't feel like it if Carol isn't on the Wembley pitch next Saturday. I accept that I get a bit intense with it all sometimes, and some berate me for 'wanting it now', but I've been wanting it for 20 years and I'm done with waiting. The fans who have stoically stuck by this basket-case of a club, at great expense and misery, in the darkest days deserve promotion the most. There was a small group of fans who sacrificed a great deal to rid us of previous shackles, and I keep thinking of one of them who is no longer with us, and how committed he was to bringing about the sort of success we're very close to achieving. ffs. Bricking it now. Into these.
    13 points
  44. Jake Daniels: Blackpool forward becomes UK's first active male professional footballer to come out publicly as gay WWW.SKYSPORTS.COM Fair play to him, takes some bottle to come out.
    13 points
  45. It's a brave but necessary move and I applaud the lad. A lots said about vale losing fans over the years. I was one of them. As a gay man I felt uncomfortable with the abuse dished out from the terraces at players and officials and others and there was no way of calling it out without putting myself at great personal danger. I decided to stop attending VP and follow from a distance. Over the years there was improvements and with "call it out and kick it out" etc plus our new inclusive owners I decided to take a chance and return with a half season ticket at Christmas and I intend to stay. What's relevant in what I've said and also in his statement yesterday is that he said "after I told my family and they backed me, I went and scored 4 goals". When allowed to be authentic and comfortable a gay person is every bit as capable (and incapable!) As a straight person. I hope he is the first of many and also I hope that vale get an LGBT supporters group to stand alongside many others.
    13 points
  46. 2-1 win after extra time. We bring Big Cov on for penalties and McKirdy tries a panneka which big Cov karate kicks away to send us to Wembley. Redemption.
    13 points
  47. Just have to mention....for a player who some have given criticism,how absolutely class was James Wilson's finish. He's a top player and has a quality that we should be proud of,all of us.
    13 points
  48. I hope this game does not happen. I would have been first in the queue for his testimonial under normal circumstances but the way he left the club and his digs at the club showed his lack of class and to me does not now deserve a testimonial. I might be among a minority but I will not give him any of my money.
    13 points
  49. Mate, why are you on Vales forum taking the p1ss? Disrespectful and likely to end up being bitten on the arse. Leave it out, FFS.
    13 points


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