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  1. When the signings started to come in a couple of weeks ago I said that it was new territory for Vale in the 21st Century that we were signing players that teams in our league were envious that they hadn't signed for them or wish they had stayed. The Benning signing is a huge indicator that the club can attract players who could play in the league above and he in particular is willing to stay in League 2 for one more season because he believes promotion is very viable. 12 months in any footballer's career is a big chunk and location will have played a part and pay etc and we don't know what terms were on offer but the fact that he has turned his back on League 1 football is pretty huge, especially as there is no guarantee he will gain that interest next season. 12 months is a long time in football, anything can happen. Again, I'm speculating against what else was on the table. I'm feeling positive that we are on the right track and that the club has never been this well organised before. Whether that will carry on to the pitch, we will have to wait and see. But we've wanted and needed this for years, deep searches on attributes and playing style, height, age, adaptability and a manager that has done this rebuild before. What's really important is we stop the pessimism until the results on the pitch curtail our optimism. We owe that to Clarke given the faith that previous managers have had that didn't deserve it. It feels like a very clear roadmap has been drawn and we need to get behind this new and exciting team until they give us a reason not to. Up the Vale!
    23 points
  2. "I hope I am wrong" No you don't. It's obvious you're desperate for us to fail so you can come on here gloating. Like I've said before, you've set yourself up for a win-win scenario. We romp to the title and you're happy we got promoted - or we don't, and you can tell everyone "I told you so". You are pathetic. Your negativity is making you look very very stupid. Especially as you said a week ago that "you wouldn't judge players until you've seen them in a few league games".
    16 points
  3. Will preface this by saying I consider Pope a legend, and the only one of my lifetime. Poor words, not that I'm surprised. He seems unable to comprehend that he went from captain to not playing at all as he just wasn't doing much on the pitch anymore (pre-injury). He would play and have negligible positive impact, being completely immobile and having lost the spring and aggression that characterised his prime. His goal return was average-poor, with him scoring in two league matches last season and four the season prior. He scored in six league games out of fifty one, and has given an interview absolutely BAFFLED that he wasn't playing anymore, ascribing it to a lack of loyalty from his employers forking out good money for a poor return on investment. He seems to think that he was delivering but, due to a lack of 'loyalty', was dropped. No, Tom. You didn't really do enough to out-compete the likes of Cullen, Bennett, or Rodney over the last two seasons. Nine league goals in two seasons isn't good enough. Scoring in five out of fifty one games isn't good enough. For him to completely brush over bringing the club into international disrepute by spending his nights on alt-right conspiracy theory videos and then, with a huge platform, decide to regurgitate them onto social media at 1am, and not think that maybe he has to look at himself for his decline, is a really poor look for him. Did he really think that was the actions of a captain? And that maybe that had a role to play in him not being captain anymore, as he'd been warned several times by Carol and the FA prior to his ban? Does he feel owed something? He played well and earned good money, as football works. We didn't owe him anything. He was well remunerated for his services and chose to leave, of his own accord, to be even better remunerated at Bury. We didn't start kicking off in the press, lambasting a lack of loyalty. Tom Pope didn't owe us anything and Port Vale FC didn't owe him anything. He wasn't an EFL standard player anymore, hence being barely used then released. That's how it works. Nothing to do with loyalty or honesty I'm sure I'll get stick for this as his contributions on the pitch will be remembered for a long time, but Tom has managed to absolve himself of any responsibility for his diminishing minutes and eventual release, despite an FA ban, several warnings from the club for his awful use of social media, and being, at best, an average League 2 striker at this stage of his career. None of this is his fault - it's somehow the club's fault for not being 'loyal'. He's absolutely deluded in this 'I can still do a job' mentality, as he outright failed to do so for 12 months. Obviously, this has wound me up. He's presented the club in a poor, unrepresentative light. A sour end to a great Port Vale career. He seems to think that it's everyone else's fault he got released. Hope he gets his testimonial and the sendoff he warrants, and maybe is more careful with his words in future and looks a bit closer to home when ascribing blame, not that he's shown any aptitude for that to this point in his career.
    15 points
  4. Only at Vale do you get people moaning at the club for staffing a corner of the business that has been significantly neglected for 20+ years. Pugh out, Whitehead in. We've got one first team coach, Whitehead. Alongside is a specialist GK coach in Ronnie Sinclair, and a specialist strength/conditioning coach in Daryl Taylor. Above them is DOF Flitcroft. That's it. We're not overstocked. It's not difficult.
    15 points
  5. I messaged Ryan Deeney from the National League Twitter account NLmusings about our new additions, below is his response for those interested :- Hi, Thanks for the message. I can't say I've written in depth on either player but did note Ryan Johnson in this piece: https://t.co/KAoxeAukfU CASS Lewis Cass grew into the season. He's a young player that hadn't played professionally so understandably took time to mature. Technical quality for a defender evident but had to prove himself physically. Did so and made himself first choice at RCB of a three or occasionally RB in a four. Comfortable breaking forward, breaking lines with passes and nabbed a couple of assists from open play during the season. Unfortunately, he was ruled out of the final part of the season with injury. JOHNSON Ryan Johnson is a really good centre back, IMO. Has a languid nature about him at times which may not go down too well but that shouldn't be mistaken for a lack of care. He wins the vast majority of his duels, not easy in a league full of "target" men. He's relatively quick, strong in the air and not afraid to move forward with the ball. Also scored a few goals from set pieces. Saw murmurs of Port Vale possibly switching between 3-5-2 and 4-3-3. If that is the case, those two will be fine tactically. Of course, their success will depend on confidence given to them by Clarke to play their games & hone their talents. COVOLAN I think Covolan is ace. Has a real confidence about him too. Type of character I imagine is good for the dressing room. That's not to say he's a perfect goalkeeper. But he's definitely better than non-league & was ready to make the next step
    14 points
  6. I like how DC is building a far more balanced squad, involving youth a lot more, both things Askey was bad at
    14 points
  7. The time had come for Tom and Vale to part ways, I've got no doubt about that. But comments like "found his level," you must be joking surely? Tom's gone there because its local, he's around lads he knows and he can carry on despite that injury. I can't fault him one bit. As I say, the time was right, but it's just outright disrespectful to have a sly pop at a genuine club legend to come out with comments like that. The guy is our post war record goalscorer and, despite losing some of his presence on the field over the last couple of years of his career, gave his absolute all for the vale in every game. Why stick the boot in? Just don't get it.
    13 points
  8. Your starting to sound really pathetic mate like seriously. Have a day off
    13 points
  9. Can we just forget Pope now please,as hard as it seems he has been and gone now,lets look to what the new lads can do for us for goodness sake lets just let it go
    12 points
  10. The pool has now reached its target and is now closed! Thank you everyone! I've now emailed the club and as soon as everything is sorted (hopefully with Covolan confirmed as our player) then I will transfer the £540 banked in the Paypal pool over to them. Then, as I said, details of the draw to win the shirt to follow...
    11 points
  11. Tom Pope was a very good player for Port Vale. A legend. Some of his moments will live in my memory forever. To name just 3 , Cheltenham hat trick, Rotherham away Boxing Day and THAT goal at Man City . He occasionally was controversial and tarnished the image of the club with foolish behaviour but in the main has been a great servant. Sometimes because of his style of play he was isolated and frustrated and the football was awful. Not his fault. However he has had umpteen niggly injuries and at 36 soon his best days are long gone. This place would explode if we signed a 36 year old from say Gillingham who scored 3 last season. I don't want to hear comparison with Kevin Ellison either before that old chestnut is trotted out. He's gone, the king is dead long live the king. It's getting boring now seeing his name trotted out , it's lazy. The noise has been deafening from rival clubs clamouring for his services. Let's see where he ends up eh. I need a filter that deletes a post with his name in it because it either makes my blood boil or makes me wet myself laughing. He's gone , get over it. He's not coming back, get over it. It's not disrespectful, it's the harsh life of a professional footballer. A wonderful Vale career and fantastic goalscorer. It's all history. Let it go for goodness sake.
    11 points
  12. I'm worried about Rampant Zebra has he got back from the vets ?
    11 points
  13. Quite sad really that the first thing in some people’s minds is to come on here and gloat that a player that did so much for us is now playing non league and also to have a dig at other fans who thought he’d be worth another years deal. All because they think it vindicates their opinion to not renew him. As already stated the “found his level” comments are nothing but disrespectful and unnecessary. Well done lads 👏
    10 points
  14. He’s found the level where it doesn’t need a medical on a shoulder injury that happened playing for our club where in the game it happened he played on with a very serious injury that has ended his pro career
    10 points
  15. A bit rich coming from one of Clarke's biggest critics. I am not slagging him off, I thought it was relevant as Hartlepool are in our league and he's on trial there. You obviously didn't click on the story as the Hartlepool manager criticised most of the trialists but not by name. You carry on slagging off our recruitment instead and your doom and gloom outlook on our manager. Laughable reply which incredibly got 3 likes.
    9 points
  16. What a cracking career he has had. Some ups and some downs but he has done us proud. HE IS A VALE LAD who has given his all for the Vale. If Rodney, Wilson etc give us half the commitment Tom gave us i will be happy. If they score half the goals i will be happy but that remains to be seen and i have my doubts. It was time to go for Tom. We cant do anything about that Good luck Popey lad. Go on playing as long as you possibly can, so long as you still enjoy the buzz of the game. You started as a young kid in a mans game, hope you now finish as an owd man in a mans game. Move in to management if thats your wish and whatever level you are at, ENJOY Thanks for everything Tom
    9 points
  17. Think hes signed for them from what ive heard, wish the lad well never got a sniff at vale rumours never confirmed to be true i think he just didnt fit in for whatever reason that is. Got no hard feelings towards McKirdy personally
    9 points
  18. They did, but surely I don't need to educate you that games are 90 minutes in duration (Or 120 if you're playing Fleetwood). If we based games on the first 45 minutes, England would have won the Euros on Sunday. Your agenda is so strange, so negative, no balance at all to your opinions and I think you know this but you get a kick out of the reaction you get. It's just really sad to see. An odd outlook to have during an exciting time for the club, waiting and hoping for things to go wrong.
    9 points
  19. Ernie Moss was a good footballer, who did not quite have the natural ability to get right to the very top of his profession. His physical and moral courage on the pitch were at the highest possible level. His commitment to his team was total. His reliability was beyond question. I first saw him in 1969 playing for Chesterfield. He stood out then as a strong leader of the line. A man of great tenacity, a wonderful header of a ball. A man who was unflustered in front of goal, who knew how to score. When he signed for us in 1981 I could hardly believe that we had managed to get him. On the field his legs were not particularly fast, his brain was superfast and got him in the right place at the right time. He was with us for only just over 18 months. The fact that he is remembered with such fondness, and held in so high a regard underlines his qualities. Port Vale have been blessed over the years to have players with the heart of a lion, and the honesty of a saint. No one epitomised these qualities more than Ernie Moss.
    9 points
  20. Walsall have signed Zak Mills. Lol. https://www.saddlers.co.uk/news/2021/july/saddlers-snap-up-zak-mills
    9 points
  21. Good job we have a manager who started him every game in a run of 25 points from 27, getting a lot out of a player who had contributed basically nothing prior. Up the Bobby Dazzler. What a manager. Glad you've come round matey. We got there in the end.
    9 points
  22. Jesus christ i come on here to read about potential signings and come off feeling depressed. Why is there so much negativity like seriously. We havent seen any of these players kick a ball yet and a lot of people saying not impressed by them. Have a day off were you impressed when we signed tom conlon, no. Were you impressed when we signed worral, no, were you impressed when we signed pope, no. When was the last time you were impressed. These players are in league two for a reason so they are always going to be a bit of a gamble. The pedigree of the players we have signed i think is better than the past few seasons. We are clearly trying to build something this season why not actually support the team rather than constantly writing them off. There was so much negativity last season and rightly so. But why dont we all go into this new season with a bit of positivity and get behind the boys until proven otherwise. Support the team dont belittle and criticise at every single thing we do
    9 points
  23. Why would you want to be slagging off Cullen when he is not our player anymore and it is probably not him?
    8 points
  24. It's August 2035. Vale have just beaten Charlton 2-0 at home, at the new redeveloped Vale Park. Tom Conlon is the manager. Phil manages to find some way to steer the post match thread towards the subject of Tom Pope, who has been retired for 12 years.
    8 points
  25. This was your post shortly before we went on a run of winning 8 out of 9 games. Your mind may not be the best judge 👍
    8 points
  26. Any friends who support Newcastle Town that watched the game on Saturday? 4-0 up at half time of what will be bar maybe 1 player our starting lineup first game of the season. Stafford Rangers second half Vale line up was: Stone Chibaya Chale Sangre Osman Illori Clarke McDrmott McFarlane Bailey Okenla Weird how you've chosen to single out the game that had the much weakened side and didn't rebalance it by mentioning the Newcastle game. So weird...So, so weird.
    8 points
  27. Brisley gone to Wrexham and Crookes to Grimsby. Wish them both well anyway, don’t think either are players to get you promoted to L1 but should do alright in that league.
    8 points
  28. Oh mate, please tell me it's Leek Town Popeye's going to. I already have a season ticket for there. I am also getting a Hanley ST as enjoyed a few games there when Vale nor Leek were at home. Even been with my mate to watch games at Milton United when possible. No, before I'm told otherwise, I have got a life! Lol. I just find local, grass roots, football brilliant events where you can do all those things professional football no longer allow - pints, standing, cheap chips & gravy, just real football played by real footballers in stadiums staffed by enthusiastic volunteers who clearly love their clubs. Finally games played without cheats and penalties are not 'won' like it has become the norm in the professional game and was last night. Oh, and no bludy VAR.
    8 points
  29. Absolutely bored rigid of seeing a certain name.
    8 points
  30. We are bringing players in from a level higher than the one at which we currently play. And some of those players are by no means sure to be in our starting eleven. What on earth is there not to like about our recruitment?
    8 points
  31. Just got back from Sunday lunch, what a great day,tour of the ground with my kids and grandkids. As we were on the way out was told a lady wanted words with me,_ Carol giving me a birthday card and gift, even the lardie son in law was impressed.
    8 points
  32. Another thing he's not very good at.
    7 points
  33. No one, absolutely no one, is bigger than the club Sorry TP Thanks for the memories
    7 points
  34. I'm not going but seems to be a general shambles around the sale. No online sales? Are we in the 20th century? The whole concept of traipsing down to VP is nice for some who have the time I guess, but an absolute faff/inconceivable for a lot. Assume it's to get people to turn up for the away kit thing. Queuing 1 hour+ for tickets for a League 2 game is daft. I was hoping I'd never have to do it again after Salford in 19/20. That's not to mention an hour's notice on a weekday and not enough people on the phones. Classic Vale. Get online ticket buying set up, ideally with a loyalty scheme points system for ST holders + regular buyers (as has been mooted for ages); hire staff to focus on phone sales for obviously busy games; give several days notice for when sales will open so people can play ahead.
    7 points
  35. Popey is an absolute Vale legend. His ability, footballing brain and all those goals, and the fact that he's got black and white blood and a Valiant heart put him right up there with the very best that have played for The Vale! The goals, the celebrations, the promotion, the awards, the tweets... Tom Pope will never be forgotten. His terrible injury that night, the circumstances of how he played on, speak volumes about how much the club means to him. A cushy little retirement job down the road at Congleton is a nice way to end his career, playing for RD and alongside GR. I'll be making the effort to go and see him play again when I get the chance. A testimonial from The Vale should be given so we can all thank him properly and give him a great send-off! UTV!
    7 points
  36. Waiting for RZ to appear calling for DC to be sacked
    7 points
  37. We still need a little more quality for me, if we want to challenge. Obviously, my opinion might change once we've played more games (speculation is the nature of this thread, after all). Compared to last season I'd say we're: Goalkeeper - Similar last year Defence - A little stronger than last year (I worry about Legge having to play too many games) Midfield - Much stronger than last year (Walker is the signing of the window in my eyes) Forwards - Similar to last year A lot depends on how Wilson goes. Like other posters, I think DC will look for a young striker (I like the look of Bailey as 4/5th striker), but we're low on proven goals. For that reason, I really hope DC doesn't want Wozza at wing back all year. The extra work takes its toll on him and he's out best source of chances. The sooner we can pack off Whitehead and Robinson, the better.
    7 points
  38. An update on this - firstly, thanks to everyone who contributed. Just in case you're wondering why it's been quiet for a few days... Your money is all banked in the Paypal Pool and ready to be transferred to the club as soon as the sponsorship is agreed. I have emailed the sponsorship request to the club. I think they are still finalising the details of the 2021-22 package so the club said they would come back to me on it next week. As soon as I get confirmation next week, I will post an update confirming the sponsorship.
    7 points
  39. So in your own mind you think we have a relegation threatened team? With the likes of Gibbons,Benning,Walker,Conlon,Pett,Wilson,Rodney,Smith,Worrall etc I have to be honest though,as its coming from a man who idolised some of the worst owners we are ever likely to see(luckily) and the man who thought Askey was the next Pep Guardiola i think i will take it with a pinch of salt.
    7 points
  40. Is it your opinion though or is it the opinion of this someone who knows him that you mentioned earlier? Because to be fair I can’t see how anyone can say he’s bad manager yet based on what he did in the few games he had last season, with a squad that wasn’t his own, with some key players missing and the unbeaten run he managed to get us on to end the season on a positive. Of course chairman live and die by their managerial appointments and equally managers live and die by their decisions too, only time will tell if the cull from last seasons squad will work. But it’s done now and the only thing fans can do is get behind the club. How long are you going to be talking a about what happened in the past with the decisions made in changing managers, there’s no point in it, everyone else is moving forward. To be seen as a prophet of impending doom is based on what exactly? It’s way too early to be jumping to conclusions yet about which way the season will go. Personally speaking, everyone to man that I know within the club has been positive about the management, the training, the culture and the changes that have been brought in by all of the new regime. There’s a positive feeling within the club that belies your negativity.
    7 points
  41. I don't see what that's got to do with anything.....On to the ignore list.
    7 points
  42. Let's all calm down and just remember that we should not criticise any member of that wonderful Micky Adams's promotion team,that defied all the odds and played for nowt ,to keep Port Vale FC afloat.That included Tom Pope.Good luck and thank you to each and every one of them.
    7 points
  43. I have opened a Pope Analysis Thread and moved the last few hours of Pope posting there , so we should be able to keep the topics apart
    7 points
  44. He'll be 36 a few weeks into the new season. For me this signing makes sense. It's lowering the age of the squad. In a similar way having 21 y/o Aidan Stone pushing 30 y/o Covolan is significantly different from 31 y/o Visser pushing 36 y/o Scott Brown. I guess there's going to be differing views and speculation on the value of the signings until the season actually kicks off - but I think it's better to let the new players at least play a few competitive matches before passing judgement (and that applies equally both to the glass half-full and glass half-empty brigades).
    7 points
  45. Someone's been busy on Wikipedia 😉
    7 points
  46. I'll be honest Joe, I'd be fully erect if we signed them both.
    7 points
  47. 7 points


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