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  1. Email to the EFL. Sir, I would like some explanation as to why Gary Bowyer, manager of a team which dropped seven points during the month, including a home defeat, has been awarded League Two Manager of the Month for April. The record of Port Vale's Darrell Clarke, whose team dropped only two points and conceded only one goal in their six games, is clearly superior. The fact that Salford played two more games to get one more point than Vale should not make their record worthy of the award. I would be interested to know the criteria used to establish the winner of this award. If it is simply the number of points obtained irrespective of the number of games played, I would politely suggest that your criteria are ridiculous and should be reviewed in the light of such an anomaly. Also, why do you need a panel of “experts” to decide on the award if you are simply going to give the prize on the basis of points obtained rather than any analysis of other factors such as number of games played or the position and form of the team prior to the start of the month? You will recall that the final positions in League Two last season were established on the basis of points-per-game. Using that principle, Clarke’s record during April is clearly superior to Bowyer’s – 2.67 points per game against 2.13. I find it hard to understand why points-per-game is acceptable one minute but not the next. Clarke has produced a miraculous turn around at Port Vale in April, his record in the month being part of a run of eight wins from nine games which took the club from relegation strugglers to the top half of the table. It included April wins against promotion chasing Exeter and Morecambe in contrast to Salford’s inability to win a home game against soon to be relegated Grimsby. In this case, Salford and Bowyer have benefitted from having games postponed earlier in the season and needing to catch up in April. To any fan with a modicum of common sense the April League Two trophy has been awarded erroneously and the Football League should consider how it comes to its decisions in future. Just because Salford City FC is a club with a high profile in the media this should not make any difference to a fair analysis of its performance. I await your response with interest.
    36 points
  2. It is so boring on here reading everyone being negative about players who haven't even kicked a ball for us yet. OVF is my only source of vale from Vienna - I come on here daily to stay in touch with whats going on as Rob does a much better job than the Sentinel but oh my days does it get tedious seeing the same 5 posters talking utter rubbish about how terrible a player is before they have even seen him!!
    31 points
  3. Hello from across the pond, I've been knocking this idea around in my head for a little. I think the one thing the modern Vale embodies is community - this was and has once again become a community club focused on the fans. As you can imagine from the States, I don't get to watch the Vale nearly as much as I'd like to (especially in person). That being said, if possible, I'd happily pay to sponsor two season tickets for the community at-large for the upcoming season to make sure some well-deserved Vale fans can bring the passion I wish I could to Vale Park. I know its not much, but who knows, maybe there are others like me out there. If someone knows who I can reach out to to make this happen, please let me know. UTV, Vale til I die, and here's to 2021-22. Cheers, Quakervale
    25 points
  4. It’s painfully clear that a few posters have had their nose put out of joint because they know the Askeys or the surrounding families and had a nice link into what was going on at the vale. Calling for a United club when their “in the know” ticket was there and then tearing it to shreds when he was quite rightly removed for poor performance shows the measure of the man. This small town, everyone must be connected, mentality was NOT what was needed to heal the Vale on the pitch after the fat slug brought it to its knees. It’s need professionalising... no fitness tracking or Medicals... Jesus wept. Luckily, the Pro Askey, anti DC agenda is very easy to spot. I know I’m an overly positive, glass half full guy when it comes to the vale, I have defended signings in the past which have made me look seriously daft... never in a “he’s definitely going to be brilliant” way ... but I always try and think about why someone was signed, and what the manager thought he could do. I cannot for the life of me understand the mentality of just assuming someone is crap without knowing what role the manager has planned for him. Maybe Garrity has been brought in to be a spoiler in games, high energy, less importance on quality, use his engine, spoil and reset.... I have no idea. Neither does anyone here, so let’s wait and see. I cannot for the life of me understand what drives someone to have such a level of dislike for a manager that they purposefully look for the most negative angle to look at everything they do. To me, It’s weird. But crack on... must be a draining and anxiety inducing existence!
    25 points
  5. Thought I’d start this thread so it doesn’t get lost in the match threads. Some of our fan base this season has been an embarrassment, calling for Askey to be sacked. We need to take a step back, and ask ourselves what sort of club do we want to be. Do we want to be another Salford just sacking managers for the sake of it? I personally do not and think that is ridiculous. If you look at the clubs of our size that have had success, like Wycombe for example, they’ve all had longevity and stuck with the manager and let them build something at the club. Let’s not forget where we’ve been the last few years. Prior to last season, we were in a relegation battle every season for about 4 years. Askey is slowly building us back up, but that takes time. It’s never gonna be a quick fix where we throw a load of money at it and go up. I understand the frustration and disappointment over some of our recent performances, I feel that too. But it doesn’t help anybody by turning on the manager. We are outside the playoffs on goal difference after 12 games. At this point last season we were on 17 points. We currently have 19. So an improvement on last year. What more do you want? We don’t have an automatic right to storm the league and get automatic promotion. We’re not a rich club and we’re a similar size to numerous other clubs in the division. Clearly I want to get promoted, but we can’t get angry after 12 games when we aren’t in the top 3. And let’s not forget about the bizarre circumstances of this season, which the team are trying their best to get through. I’m not a happy clapper by any means. I wanted Aspin gone for over a month before he went. But this is ridiculous. We can’t demand the manager out every time we lose. We’re on the fringe of the playoffs for Christ’s sake. So I guess my point is get some perspective, and support the team. UTV.
    24 points
  6. When the signings started to come in a couple of weeks ago I said that it was new territory for Vale in the 21st Century that we were signing players that teams in our league were envious that they hadn't signed for them or wish they had stayed. The Benning signing is a huge indicator that the club can attract players who could play in the league above and he in particular is willing to stay in League 2 for one more season because he believes promotion is very viable. 12 months in any footballer's career is a big chunk and location will have played a part and pay etc and we don't know what terms were on offer but the fact that he has turned his back on League 1 football is pretty huge, especially as there is no guarantee he will gain that interest next season. 12 months is a long time in football, anything can happen. Again, I'm speculating against what else was on the table. I'm feeling positive that we are on the right track and that the club has never been this well organised before. Whether that will carry on to the pitch, we will have to wait and see. But we've wanted and needed this for years, deep searches on attributes and playing style, height, age, adaptability and a manager that has done this rebuild before. What's really important is we stop the pessimism until the results on the pitch curtail our optimism. We owe that to Clarke given the faith that previous managers have had that didn't deserve it. It feels like a very clear roadmap has been drawn and we need to get behind this new and exciting team until they give us a reason not to. Up the Vale!
    23 points
  7. As it looks likely to be the end of his caretaker reign today a huge thank you is due to Danny!! To take a team consistently sh*tting the bed and get results where they were expected (Grimsby and Southend), take a point away from 3rd in the league away from home and only have one bad league game (against a team playing well at the moment) is a great performance. Through the difficulty of having Covid Danny has acted with dignity and worked his nuts off for the team. He has shown maturity in saying it too soon for him to be manager but with more experience he will be a great manager for someone some day. The Danny P situation unfortunately showed the unfortunate side of this forum ... people venting angrily that he wasn’t good enough and shouldn’t be manager. All while he got on with the thankless task full in the knowledge he didn’t even want to do it. His record reads P4 W2 D1 L1 Thank you Danny!
    23 points
  8. What a disappointing thing to read from a fellow vale fan.
    23 points
  9. I genuinely feel sorry for fans of the Super Six tonight. Their clubs are in the process of global humiliation. Meanwhile in the meaningless football pyramid we’ve just witnessed a lad discarded by Stevenage, born in our city, and whose great grandad and great great grandad played for the club, score an absolute wonder goal and score both goals to win the game. They will never know how that feels and what that means. The beautiful game at its very best. Viva the beautiful game and viva Port Vale.
    22 points
  10. This shows you what a fickle world football is. At half time on 14th November Askey was a good manager. Seven weeks later he’s gone. Very sad. Thanks for all your efforts John and Dave. They were appreciated in some quarters.
    22 points
  11. Smith played 46 league games for us in L1, in a season where if Norman hadn't flogged two of our best players, we would have stayed up. Despite one bonkers and one useless manager., and an acid fuelled recruitment policy. And won the EFL Young Player of the Month, and winning player of the season, players’ player of the season, young player of the season, away fans’ player of the season and supporters’ club player of the season to boot. And no, before Breadwinner chips in, his form has not fallen off a cliff since. In fact he's added mazy runs into the box (winning the penalty vs Bradford), swivel volley finishing and playing RB to his repertoire. Throw in being virtually injury proof, never getting suspended and the fact that Pope and Clarke obviously rate him, and I think Smithy is the least of our worries.
    21 points
  12. Some interesting responses on here to the latest development. I'd like to add some context. In the past TWENTY YEARS we have only achieved a top 7 finish in the league... ONCE. This was under MA in 2012/2013. Let that sink in. 20 years playing in League 1 or below & only ONE successful league campaign. That points towards a clear problem at the football club & that problem has always been the lack of structure behind the scenes along with non football people making the key decisions. The football club has been been passed from pillar to post in that time. Every single time the managers job has come up we've waived a magic wand & allowed non footballing people to select the manager in the HOPE we might drop onto another MA or JR. I applaud Carol for taking this step; she has clearly recognised the importance of having a FOOTBALLING person looking after FOOTBALL related matters. Whether that be training facilities, coaching structure, youth development, recruitment. Albert Einstein: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results I think it's a big step in the right direction. Welcome to the Vale, Dave.
    21 points
  13. Evening All, long time reader, first time contributor. Want to say a big thank you firstly to all of you lot for keeping me informed, entertained and something resembling sane regarding all things Vale over the past few 'trying' years, and for all that many of you did in helping get rid of N**m. Anyway, it's so good to be able to make my first post after a game like that. Thought in all honesty that it was a fairly even game in most respects, the difference being they missed their chances whilst we had two wonderfully executed goals, but we do look like such a well-drilled, organised squad that they can't have any arguments with us taking the 3 points. Conlon MotM for me, had to be after that free-kick and the assist, he's looking absolute class so far this season, but closely followed today by Smith, with Legge a beast as usual (and whilst Bowman got away with treading on him, thought there were a couple that could have gone against Legge too, was just a good physical battle). I was encouraged by both full-backs today as well, thought both of them made some very timely interventions and read the game well, particularly first half, and Fitz kept Williams fairly quiet when he came on too. Mills I think tired a little last 15, hence he couldn't get over to block those two crosses, but not surprising given he's played every minute of the three games in the last week. While I'd take a 100% fit Gibbo over Mills, I'd be tempted to stick with Fitz at LB, certainly for away games, with Monty a great option (dependent on opposition shape/quality) at LW to provide more support coming back, moving Rodney over to terrify their CBs. Rodney has all the hallmarks of a proper fan's favourite, definitely going to be the kind of player to both delight and frustrate everyone, and hopefully the balance between the two will gradually improve as the season wears on, but there's a great player in there. With his pace and strength, coupled with occasional poor decision-making and aimlessness, he reminds me a bit of a lower-league version of Adama Traoré of Wolves, in his Boro days maybe. Great asset either way. Very happy to see Manny back as well, the man's class and (injuries permitting) will only get stronger over the coming weeks. To think Burgess, given how good he was second half of last season, is now behind Manny and Whitehead in the pecking order is a really good indicator as to the strength of our squad. All this with McKirdy (and to an extent Theo) still to get up to speed, plus Amoo, Gibbo and Pope to come back. Wow. Happy days. UTV!
    21 points
  14. Hello everyone. Just a polite reminder: This is a thread about rumours. By definition, rumours aren't proven facts so bear that in mind when reading some of the suggestions. With respect, if you want to debate other things (e.g. the merits of Vale managers) then that's off topic and needs a separate thread - this one's subject is transfer gossip - please keep on that topic. Finally, please respect the right of others to have their say. Attack the post but not the poster! And remember, this is gossip and rumours, it all needs to be taken with a pinch of salt as 99.9% of it won't happen. Thanks!
    20 points
  15. f*** sake lads, I'd rather have the excitement of this all going to plan (with the inherent risk of failure that comes with it) and making memories with my Dad, then the same old sh!te I've had for 19 of the 20 years of supporting the Vale. One top 6 finish in 30 years and fans are worried about too much change. Let's enjoy it the ride. I was sick of doing it the same old tinpot way and getting nowhere, to the point where mid-season I was truly exhausted of being a Port Vale fan. We've been a miserable club for ages and its a miracle that 4,000 of us are unwell enough to keep turning up every year, cash in hand, begging for another dose of disappointment, mediocrity, and sometimes disarray. Now, I'm excited for the possibility that I can finally witness some of the great years you lot had in the 90s, and further back in the 50s for the older fans on here. Yep, the Matrix may have a bug in the algorithm and it goes haywire with a bunch of frauds coming in, but I'll take the risk of that over plodding to another non-entity finish in the 4th tier with the same old finished men/farmers which have had their chance and achieved practically zero for Port Vale. We've got an angel of a woman at the helm who cares about the fans and the area and wouldn't ever risk our future (unlike the last few conmen), two promotion winners making the decisions, and a core of decent players who have openly said they're excited to be around for this ride. Football is about the risk of it all. I literally can't face another year of the same old tinpottery and shambles. Up the Risky Whites, I say. Let's have it.
    20 points
  16. Check out wiki. He's run the family business with his brother and father for 15 years and has his own football academy. He's not been "just" a player and manager. In view of the amount of criticism our recruitment policy has been in recent years I'm pleased to hear him say it needs a total overhaul - that's what folk have been asking for. Also, folk on here have been criticising Colin Garlick for not doing his job properly when running the football side of the business (wrongly in my opinion) and now they are criticising the club for appointing someone to do exactly that job. Yes, we were all expecting a manager today so this has come as a surprise but you can see there is a degree of long term planning here which is something that has been lacking at the club for ages. I hope it works out.
    20 points
  17. The meltdown on here is laughable. Please can someone tell me the success we have had in appointing a manager since Micky left? None. Flitcroft being appointed DoF shows our long term vision. It's honestly refreshing to see. Realistically we aren't going anywhere this season; so, therefore, we can take our time in appointing the right man for the job. I'll be honest, I'm more confident in this appointment than I would have been if we just appointed any old manager to sort out the mess. As I said before, what success have we had in doing that since Micky left? We've been going around in circles for years. Think of the long term vision. This is a step in the RIGHT DIRECTION. Get behind Carol and Dave!
    20 points
  18. Really don’t understand the criticism of Hurst, I think people are being really unfair on him. At the start of the season, I don’t think anyone thought he’d even be in our match day squad, and I include in that fans, management and probably Hurst himself. He’s gone straight from the national league north to league 2, playing in a sh*te team, thrown in at the deep end. He’s a young lad making his way in the game, not even played 15 league games yet, and he’s already being written off by some fans. He’s probably on a pittance so doesn’t exactly take up any budget, and he’s under 22 so isn’t counted in squad number. Been far better than some of the jokers out there recently. Gives 100% when he’s on. And he’s shown some good glimpses. Give the lad a chance for Christ’s sake.
    20 points
  19. I'm not happy that he's supposedly lost his job. Unlike Scumthwaite, it's difficult to celebrate someone getting the boot when they're actually an affable and nice bloke. I feel really harsh for saying it but unfortunately I just didn't think he was up to it and his limitations could no longer be covered up. No plan B, one dimensional tactics, inability to react or change a game are all criticisms that we have all been frustrated by since he started. It's unpleasant but what can you do. I can imagine Carol is actually quite upset. I have never felt sorry for a departing Vale manager like this before, but unfortunately it's necessary.
    20 points
  20. So let me get this right then; people want us to sign Tchimanga from Boreham, because he had a good season in the league below. But when we sign a keeper, who had a good season in the league below, people go mental? Defies logic this does…
    19 points
  21. I am still on the Port Vale forum here aren't I? Can't quite take in all the upbeat vibes, new signings, excellent feel good-factor rumblings coming from our great Club! Having been a fanatical follower for many, many years I have to state now that I do not recall ever having such a desire, pre season to get back to the stadium and offer my support to the lads. OK, we do not yet know how our newbies are going to gel together but surely from the new owners down this has to be one of the most uplifting times to be a Valiant. I've witnessed many a false horizon and endured far too many games of complete and utter tripe to make me a level headed optimist for better times at the Vale. But dare I believe and dream that we are entering an era now that will give rise to the mighty black and whites finally securing a proper and respected place in Potteries soccer history? What is required now is for all the fans , over the years , who have, for whatever reason given up hope and for them to see the light and join us all in a concerted effort to fill the seats at Vale Park. If we can prove to Carol and the management team that there is an enthusiastic and hopeful throng of DC/DF's followers then we have done our bit to assist the vision that obviously now exists within the walls of Vale Park. I'm absolutely bosting to get out there each match and support my Team. I cannot wait and I sincerely wish that there are thousands of other like minded fans out there to carry us forward. UTV. VTID.
    19 points
  22. Here is my reply from the EFL: Hello Jean, Thank you for your email. The Manager of the Month is shortlisted by experts in the industry and a judging panel will then decide on the eventual winner. The panel take into account various different things - though results play a strong part, there needs to be consideration of the wider context of performance and other factors taken into account, otherwise there would be no need for a panel or a shortlist and it would just be given straight to the manager of the team with the highest number of accrued points. We trust this provides a little more clarity regarding the Manager of the Month award. Thank you for contacting the EFL. Kind Regards Danny Supporter Services Department EFL And here is my reply to their reply!! Hi Danny Thank you for taking the time and trouble to reply to my email. I was pleased to see that you clearly agree with the point I made – that the Manager of the Month award should not just be given to the manager whose team has accrued the highest number of points but rather look at the wider context. It is exactly because the wider context was ignored in the April League 2 award that I contacted the EFL in the first place. I appreciate that I am not going to get the EFL to change its mind on this matter but I have to say that, as far as any fair minded League 2 supporter is concerned, it has made a dreadful mistake in giving this award to Gary Bowyer of media darlings Salford, rather than Darrell Clarke of Port Vale. I would respectfully ask that your judging panel pays more attention to the “wider context” in the future. Kind regards Jean Jackson
    19 points
  23. My opinion on this is that what has happened today is what many have been crying out for in an age. Since Adams left we have promoted from within apart from the Bruno experiment. How many of us have bemoaned about doing stuff on the cheap with an old boys network of ex players and coaches ? We now have people running the show on the playing side with no bias and fresh eyes and ears . This is exactly what loads of us wanted. I'm very sad not to be able to say goodbye to Popey, Browny and to a lesser extent Monty and Joyce. The rest , well footballers come and go. It's a nomadic lifestyle they lead . In the main the fanbase are unanimous that some of these players have been absolutely atrocious signings. I don't want to single names out but when they played together one of our full back combinations were the worst in living memory. Our owners have placed their 100% faith and trust now in these new guys. That's good enough for me. I'd imagine tears have been shed , Pope , a legend, Brown,a great servant both on and off the pitch. But our owners don't want to stand still do they , yes they will be sad but this now is a more professional and well run club. I renewed my two tickets last weekend at the open weekend , I can't wait now to see the players that we are able to attract. I trust our owners and our duo DF and DC . Football is cruel, we move on and hopefully the good times come back. It won't be for the want of trying.
    19 points
  24. I don't know who it was and i'm not taking away the right to an opinion. But a while back someone despite Worrall being second to KDB in the entire country for assists still wasn't happy as he doesn't score enough goals . Worrall since Askey gave him a chance after he was jettisoned by Aspin has been a revelation. His work rate and energy are absolutely pivotal to our team. Even on an off day and he will have many of those, he still goes off having left every drop of energy on that pitch. Bearing in mind he had a scan a couple of weeks ago he's maybe been rushed back and asked to give it a go by Clarke. He destroyed Oldham last week but nobody was prepared to gamble and again last night a brilliant display. Down on his haunches , we are all thinking oh no here we go again, he gets up cracks on with it and sets up the winner. He must be absolutely cream crackered this morning after that display of commitment. But....he doesn't score enough goals apparently !! Superb Worrall , absolutely brilliant display with pride in the shirt.
    19 points
  25. What I don’t get about you, and posters like you, is where the anger and vitriol comes from, or what you think it might achieve? Guthrie is a young lad trying to earn a living. He probably knows better than anyone that his performances will determine whether he has a professional contract anywhere come next season. His dream, to be a pro footballer, hangs in the balance. I’m guessing he could have sat in his backside at Bradford and picked up his money until the end of the season. He’ll be desperate to succeed. As a Vale fan, I’m desperate for him to succeed too. I hope he does. I wish him luck. Better to be him than a keyboard warrior salivating at the chance to stick the boot in on the evening of a good away result.
    19 points
  26. Just listened to Flitcroft's and Carole's videos on You Tube. The most reassuring part of these impressive interviews is that it looks very unlikely that Pugh will, at this stage at least, be our new manager. Just a bit concerned about how long it's going to take to recruit because, in my view, we are are not yet out of the woods as far as this season goes. But the future looks bright. One of the questions raised frequently over the last few months is who is advising Carol and who exactly is pulling the strings on the footballing side. Theoretically, it was our Chief Executive but now we have an experienced footballing man who is going to be accountable for our success as a club with a clear line of accountability from our owners through the DOF to the manager and beyond. And the good thing is Flitcroft sounds as if he knows what he's about. The other question is how the club can afford all this. I wondered over the last week or so how we have managed to bring in no fewer than five players without any moving out. The answer to that seems that our owners, even though we are a million pounds down in revenue, are committed to finding the resources to realise their vision, including the infrastructure to make a modern club work. Just remarkable. How many times have we been able to say this over the last few decades? So what today has shown is that we have true Vale fans in charge of the club who are determined to make it work and invest in the future. At long last, if this works, it looks as though we are going to be a force to be reckoned with. Our fantastic owners have shown their commitment - we need to be sure we give them ours. Fingers crossed for the manager's appointment.
    19 points
  27. This... 100% this. In the know, Inner Circle, circle within a circle, I know something you don't know, If its not done the way they would do it they start dripping poison in peoples ears to undermine things. Some really awful behaviours on here for a group of people to support a club. Welcome David. We have been crying out for someone to be in charge of football matters at this club from root to branch. Now we have one. This club needs structure and foundations... Carol is in for the long term and wants success for us LONG TERM. Like it or not, Carols intentions are to make this club a better place and she has invested to do that. As always, The club will have my backing.
    19 points
  28. Message / request to Martin Tideswell. Can we please have a bit more general communication around what’s happening at the club. And I don’t mean the manager situation... I’m talking just general things Port Vale. I had no idea that Richard Duffy was back working at the vale until it was on Radio Stoke today. We have heard nothing from Billy Paynter since his return, an interview would be fascinating. I would love to know his thoughts on his career and what he brings. What’s his official role, he was on the bench today I think... what’s his role in this interim period. How did Ryan Campbell Gordon’s loans at Hednesford and Gainsborough Trinity go? I had no idea he was back at the club. Where was Fitz today? Does he have Covid? A knock? The makeup of the bench indicates it wasn’t just him being dropped. How are the players coping with Covid? Can we get some interviews? I get that Covid makes this hard, but it feels communications at the club have slipped at a time that the fans are craving that connection that’s lost because we can’t attend the game.
    19 points
  29. If you don't want to play for the club, leave. If you need faith in your manager to be able to succesfully pass a ball 2 yards, you're in the wrong profession. If you have lost faith in your manager, at the very least do the jobs that you are being paid very well to do to the best of your abilities. If you are deliberately causing trouble behind the scenes, hang your head in shame. If you want a new contract, either here or elsewhere, play for it. If you have a problem with your manager, have the decency to air it.
    19 points
  30. I am loving that these friendly matches are on Youtube. It's grate for me as I am blind that they have Phil Bowers doing the commentary. I just cant wate to get back down VP with my kids as soon as we can. My little girl keeps asking me when we can go again. I hope it is more about the games and not the sweets and pies she makes me get her lol.
    19 points
  31. I had the pleasure of going for my and my ladies lunch up there today it was fantastic ,the whole of the staff ,friendly hardworking and great at there jobs . Food was marvellous and even got sit in the dugout and look around changing rooms . I'd highly recommend it well done to all involved and thank you for a wonderful afternoon much appreciated by me and my fabulous lady . UTV
    18 points
  32. Hi i'm a brazilian fan of port vale I am happy that we now have a Brazilian goalkeeper, and he is from the same city where I was born here in Brazil he played for the club in my city when he was 20 years old and then for bigger clubs like Vasco da Gama, then he was loaned out to fourth division clubs in Brazil
    18 points
  33. Very sad for Scott Brown and Luke Joyce. They go with my thanks for their efforts. Losing Tom Pope is equally sad but that’s the right decision.
    18 points
  34. I know supporters are happy that the "deadwood" have been released and it is exciting for new blood to come in but whether you think they hit the required standard for the club or not, they are people effectively losing their jobs today and may I suggest some think on that sentiment.
    18 points
  35. After the tragic death of Lee I've set up a just giving page to try and raise £1000 for his family from the Port Vale family. It has really hit me for personal reasons as well. Won't bring Lee back, no money in the world can replace a husband, father and son . It's difficult times for us all but even a pound is brilliant. If you don't mind spreading the word to your Vale friends and I can either liaise with Rob on here or contact Carol to see about getting the money to Lee's wife and children. Rest in peace Lee and the picture on the just giving page reminds me of a brilliant day. 100% wholehearted player for us and 32 is absolutely tragic . Thanks https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/darren-gregory-1?utm_term=4RMGzpv8m
    18 points
  36. I’m going to put it out there and say I really like the idea after hearing some of what he says. It’s a long term role that should build the club football wise, we’ve all moaned about the lack of focus on the football in recent months and this brings that. If you listen to what he says it makes sense. He should be in place first to sort the manager and then support them and it’s now top priority. Hopefully we can get that done quickly with initial interviews no doubt done. I’m positive about this.
    18 points
  37. Port Vale fans, ay! The owners show ambition and splash the cash to IMPROVE the football club, and they are met with reactions like I’ve seen on here and on Facebook. I know, let’s go back to the Smurf days where we were ran by a clown. I preferred them days... Christ, get a grip. Fantastic stuff, yet again, by Carol.
    17 points
  38. Going from the video, we clearly do need a DoF. The club's needed completely remoulding since the Rudge years. I remember Sinnott stating we needed root and branch reform and it's never happened. If the infrastructure is as dilapidated as Flitcroft makes out, it would have been too much for one manager to sort. Give the guy a <ovf censored> chance.
    17 points
  39. This is a positive step for the club, mind you I said that about Askey n Rudge. To many people on this site with their own agendas. There is no guarantees that this will work, many people have knocked the club over the last fortnight, me included. Time to shut up now and support Carol, Flitters and the club. UTV
    17 points
  40. Days like today are why I hate football sometimes. I’m not sure why people are rejoicing. Yes I wanted a change, but this is a genuinely sad day for the club and a very decent guy who obviously thinks a lot of the place has lost his job. I hope the players sit up and take note. Thanks John for keeping us in the League, Crewe away, Man City away and the subsequent run and Bolton (when was the last time we scored 6 away?).
    17 points
  41. "I hope I am wrong" No you don't. It's obvious you're desperate for us to fail so you can come on here gloating. Like I've said before, you've set yourself up for a win-win scenario. We romp to the title and you're happy we got promoted - or we don't, and you can tell everyone "I told you so". You are pathetic. Your negativity is making you look very very stupid. Especially as you said a week ago that "you wouldn't judge players until you've seen them in a few league games".
    16 points
  42. That’s dead sound of you mate. At £10 for a junior valiant membership/kIds ST you could get 50+ of the kids from the Hubb foundation free meals list signed up and down VP every game for the cost of sponsoring two adult ones, perhaps that would go even further for the community? Just an idea, didn’t know what/who you had in mind.
    16 points
  43. Jeez, since the game ended all I've seen on here is childish bickering. Some on here need to grow up. A decent point away, I'm happy with that.
    16 points
  44. We all have read the theories and rumours. Askey, Sinclair, Mckirdy, Robinson, Pugh, Garlick. All and more mentioned in disparaging ways throughout the season. I think last season in hindsight did us no favours just missing out and the national acclaim for our magnanimous vote to end the season early. The majority ( myself included) got giddy as we beat Crawley and Exeter. Immediately the cracks appeared ,3 successive games without a goal brought us down to earth. We then played ok against Salford and well against Cheltenham. Back in contention. Whatever has happened since Kings Lynn onwards is a complete mystery. Was obvious a few games in that all wasn't well. Regular red cards, inability to see a game out. Yet we had people continually saying ' we are only 2 points worse off than last season ' . Football doesn't work like that. Mckirdy and Robinson both proven scorers last season at this level , sent to Coventry. All rather mysterious why they were jettisoned. Yes neither pulled up trees and were garbage but they were singled out, why ? I can name a few others who need getting rid of . Mitch Clark another, arguably one of the best young full backs seen at Vale in a good while, again dumped because we have Zak Mills in place keeping Gibbos shirt warm. Again a fudged explanation, the majority on here are united that Mills is truly horrific yet somebody deemed him a better fit than young Clark. Who and why ? Now we have Leon Legge and his cryptic tweets. A very good servant and ambassador. Obviously don't know the bloke but reading between the lines seems a good steady decent professional and person. His performances have been very poor but again he's not alone. So why has he been treated so terribly when Smith and Brisley combination is already leaky and comical. So we have 4 bad eggs ( faces don't fit ) or however you dress it up. Just what on earth is going on behind the scenes? Then we had the outrageous omission, oversight or whatever for Charlie Holland and Jinkin John last Saturday. Shame on you Port Vale. We have ' Rugbygate ' again another laughable stick to poke at the club. Sinclair now the fall guy for many, rightly or wrongly who knows. On the pitch we have sub standard squad fillers some of whom have been a fixture in the side. Hence we are sinking like a stone. We had a plethora of ' quality strikers ' all of us salivating at the riches on offer. Cullen has scored in one game , Pope has scored in 2 games, Robinson no point discussing as he's going. The saviour a young lad finding his way in the game Rodders. What a shambles. I'm losing track of what I'm actually waffling on about really but basically what the hell is going on. What is behind all of the unrest and woeful performance. Things are clearly not right on and off the pitch at the moment. Saturday is huge. We simply have to avoid defeat to keep a reasonable gap. Defeat is unthinkable given the fixtures on the horizon particularly away from home. We need to feel pride in the shirt. It's just a recurring nightmare at the club. Last season is looking like a one off and in reality we are now a struggling side. 3 of our 4 years here have had us looking over our shoulders It's embarrassing and somebody needs to get a grip. The first baby steps are to appoint a manager. Rant over
    16 points
  45. Thread closed. Let me explain the logic behind this... Personally I think with the situation at the moment and having lost valued members of the OVF community through Covid, this site cannot condone breaking current restrictions. If you want to protest, then it needs to be virtual not in person and I don't want a thread on here encouraging breaking the current restrictions. If there are posts elsewhere encouraging such things, please report them to the admin team. Posters who persistently advocate breaking the regulations will be removed from the forum. Thanks, Rob
    16 points
  46. Yes,that's a massive addition. So much so, that Ive been up and renewed our 4 season tickets this afternoon!😁😁
    15 points
  47. I'm bemused, baffled, disturbed, incredulous , whichever word fits . At the anti feeling towards Clarke , it really is beyond belief and I simply cannot fathom it .
    15 points
  48. Very telling words I'd really really really love to know why there was neither a minutes silence or a minute applause for the very sad loss of one of our own Charlie and a superb player from our hey day in Johnny Jeffers This needs to be pointed out to whoever that it is totally unacceptable and I'm maybe too strong here , but downright disrespectful. The no crowd has no bearing on it. Rest in peace 2 great blokes and shame on no respect being shown at 3-00pm
    15 points


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