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  1. As it looks likely to be the end of his caretaker reign today a huge thank you is due to Danny!! To take a team consistently sh*tting the bed and get results where they were expected (Grimsby and Southend), take a point away from 3rd in the league away from home and only have one bad league game (against a team playing well at the moment) is a great performance. Through the difficulty of having Covid Danny has acted with dignity and worked his nuts off for the team. He has shown maturity in saying it too soon for him to be manager but with more experience he will be a great mana
    23 points
  2. Some interesting responses on here to the latest development. I'd like to add some context. In the past TWENTY YEARS we have only achieved a top 7 finish in the league... ONCE. This was under MA in 2012/2013. Let that sink in. 20 years playing in League 1 or below & only ONE successful league campaign. That points towards a clear problem at the football club & that problem has always been the lack of structure behind the scenes along with non football people making the key decisions. The football club has been been passed from pillar to post in that time. Every sin
    21 points
  3. Check out wiki. He's run the family business with his brother and father for 15 years and has his own football academy. He's not been "just" a player and manager. In view of the amount of criticism our recruitment policy has been in recent years I'm pleased to hear him say it needs a total overhaul - that's what folk have been asking for. Also, folk on here have been criticising Colin Garlick for not doing his job properly when running the football side of the business (wrongly in my opinion) and now they are criticising the club for appointing someone to do exactly that job.
    20 points
  4. The meltdown on here is laughable. Please can someone tell me the success we have had in appointing a manager since Micky left? None. Flitcroft being appointed DoF shows our long term vision. It's honestly refreshing to see. Realistically we aren't going anywhere this season; so, therefore, we can take our time in appointing the right man for the job. I'll be honest, I'm more confident in this appointment than I would have been if we just appointed any old manager to sort out the mess. As I said before, what success have we had in doing that since Micky left? We've been g
    20 points
  5. Really don’t understand the criticism of Hurst, I think people are being really unfair on him. At the start of the season, I don’t think anyone thought he’d even be in our match day squad, and I include in that fans, management and probably Hurst himself. He’s gone straight from the national league north to league 2, playing in a sh*te team, thrown in at the deep end. He’s a young lad making his way in the game, not even played 15 league games yet, and he’s already being written off by some fans. He’s probably on a pittance so doesn’t exactly take up any budget, and he’s under 22 s
    20 points
  6. What I don’t get about you, and posters like you, is where the anger and vitriol comes from, or what you think it might achieve? Guthrie is a young lad trying to earn a living. He probably knows better than anyone that his performances will determine whether he has a professional contract anywhere come next season. His dream, to be a pro footballer, hangs in the balance. I’m guessing he could have sat in his backside at Bradford and picked up his money until the end of the season. He’ll be desperate to succeed. As a Vale fan, I’m desperate for him to succeed too. I hope he does. I wish him luc
    19 points
  7. Just listened to Flitcroft's and Carole's videos on You Tube. The most reassuring part of these impressive interviews is that it looks very unlikely that Pugh will, at this stage at least, be our new manager. Just a bit concerned about how long it's going to take to recruit because, in my view, we are are not yet out of the woods as far as this season goes. But the future looks bright. One of the questions raised frequently over the last few months is who is advising Carol and who exactly is pulling the strings on the footballing side. Theoretically, it was our Chief Executive but now we
    19 points
  8. This... 100% this. In the know, Inner Circle, circle within a circle, I know something you don't know, If its not done the way they would do it they start dripping poison in peoples ears to undermine things. Some really awful behaviours on here for a group of people to support a club. Welcome David. We have been crying out for someone to be in charge of football matters at this club from root to branch. Now we have one. This club needs structure and foundations... Carol is in for the long term and wants success for us LONG TERM. Like it or not, Carols intentions are to make
    19 points
  9. I’m going to put it out there and say I really like the idea after hearing some of what he says. It’s a long term role that should build the club football wise, we’ve all moaned about the lack of focus on the football in recent months and this brings that. If you listen to what he says it makes sense. He should be in place first to sort the manager and then support them and it’s now top priority. Hopefully we can get that done quickly with initial interviews no doubt done. I’m positive about this.
    18 points
  10. Going from the video, we clearly do need a DoF. The club's needed completely remoulding since the Rudge years. I remember Sinnott stating we needed root and branch reform and it's never happened. If the infrastructure is as dilapidated as Flitcroft makes out, it would have been too much for one manager to sort. Give the guy a <ovf censored> chance.
    17 points
  11. This is a positive step for the club, mind you I said that about Askey n Rudge. To many people on this site with their own agendas. There is no guarantees that this will work, many people have knocked the club over the last fortnight, me included. Time to shut up now and support Carol, Flitters and the club. UTV
    17 points
  12. Jeez, since the game ended all I've seen on here is childish bickering. Some on here need to grow up. A decent point away, I'm happy with that.
    16 points
  13. We all have read the theories and rumours. Askey, Sinclair, Mckirdy, Robinson, Pugh, Garlick. All and more mentioned in disparaging ways throughout the season. I think last season in hindsight did us no favours just missing out and the national acclaim for our magnanimous vote to end the season early. The majority ( myself included) got giddy as we beat Crawley and Exeter. Immediately the cracks appeared ,3 successive games without a goal brought us down to earth. We then played ok against Salford and well against Cheltenham. Back in contention. Whatever has happene
    16 points
  14. Thread closed. Let me explain the logic behind this... Personally I think with the situation at the moment and having lost valued members of the OVF community through Covid, this site cannot condone breaking current restrictions. If you want to protest, then it needs to be virtual not in person and I don't want a thread on here encouraging breaking the current restrictions. If there are posts elsewhere encouraging such things, please report them to the admin team. Posters who persistently advocate breaking the regulations will be removed from the forum. Thanks, R
    16 points
  15. Shows an investment for the future and really makes me so pleased that we have club owners who have the vision and are prepared to put in the financial investment that an appointment like this requires. Thank you Carol & Kevin
    15 points
  16. Whilst there will always be a bit of head scratching when a new system is set up in a club, Flitcroft as DOF seems to tick the boxes for me. If that makes me that ridiculous phrase "a happy clapper", then fine, I am optimistic by nature. 1 - As stated above, proof that we are investing in a long term plan to improve the football side of the club long term,not just plucking another manager in to try and juggle all the plates. No-one can accuse the owners of lacking ambition with 2 salaries being paid to get the football side right. If it puts some managers off applying, so be it - this m
    15 points
  17. WTF is this? Don’t they know we are port vale. We like managers who write their team selection on the back of a fag packet and play 4-4-2! Why would a club that has been a mess for a decade need someone to oversea the football Side of the club and possibly have an ethos that we employ into instead of starting from scratch every two years. Madness.
    15 points
  18. I've just seen where Jamo has passed away.........OMG another of my boyhood heroes gone.....Sleeves over his hands chasing everything and throwing himself into diving headers on a muddy VP......RIP Jesse!
    14 points
  19. Ahh. Johnny James. Just hearing his name transports me back to a faraway and wonderous time. I'm that 8 year old lad again, on the Bycars with my 3 aunts all wrapped up in black and white, especially freezing night matches. Being spoilt at halftime with baked potatoes bought along by aunt Betty. Watching John James alongside his Vale team mate's in 'that' all white strip under the floodlights was magical. Smashing footballer was John, lionhearted and totally committed, always seemed to be covered in mud by the end of a game. Real hero to me, and like Clinton Boulton, one of the reasons that I
    14 points
  20. People near, around or involved in the club need to shut the f*ck up and just get on with their jobs. Why is there always leaks with everything. Just keep your trap shut and focus on getting us up the league you dossers.
    14 points
  21. There's so much to be gained by getting a manager appointed before the end of the season. I don't understand this fixation with only preparing for next season when this one is finished. If this season does have nothing riding on it, then that only incentivises getting a new manager in ASAP, so he can plan for next season without an immediate demand on results. He can evaluate his squad, implement his tactics, and plan his recruitment, knowing the budget and the recruitment team, take risks on young lads to get a good look at them, try out different systems etc. If we just 'give
    14 points
  22. It's remarkable how many on here are so called "in the know" or "know someone at the Club" but are not prepared to divulge names, yet are easily prepared to break confidences with said contacts. I would not want those individuals as friends of mine! We are Vale fans wanting the best for our Club and participating on this forum want news/facts and truths. We do not want the continuing unsubstantiated rumours that can actually do everything but galvanise the fan base. The club are NOT going to divulge all details of every candidate, NOT going to tell us what sums are involved, NOT goi
    14 points
  23. There was absolutely no need to call carol a bitch. That's shameful on your part
    14 points
  24. Lots of effort and a bit of fight today although I thought we were very poor with the ball. Disappointing to concede out of nothing - I thought we looked very comfortable up until that point then we looked very shaky for 15 mins which just shows how fragile we are. Its going to take a while to get that confidence back. I can't believe the criticism of Guthrie on here. He worked his socks off and won most of the headers against the CB. Never had any decent cross to attack. The only time put a good cross in he moved to the back post taking two defenders with him and created the space
    13 points
  25. Being serious for a complete change, if it is to announce a new manager, then I hope we all (fans, staff but most importantly the players) get behind whoever it is wholeheartedly and with complete commitment to make the manager and us successful. For the sake of this football club that WE ALL love and want the best for, I hope whoever it is, wether or not they are fans particular first choice or not that we do not jump straight on the negative bandwagon and hopefully, given time some good times may return UTV.
    13 points
  26. My main problem is I don’t agree with the bashing of specific players like Guthrie when they’ve not been great. By all means, say they’ve played badly but he’s getting ripped to shreds and it’s way OTT. As long as a player is putting in 100%, that’s all I can ask. They may be <ovf censored>, and I can call them out on it like how Conlon was terrible today, but I’m not gonna be bashing them constantly on here if they’re giving it their all. Guthrie is putting in the effort. By all means say you think he’s poor, but this bashing of him constantly is really starting to pee me off.
    12 points
  27. Heres an idea why dont we judge him on what he does at vale rather than going off the word of previous fans. There are fans that love him like bristol rovers and fans who arent keen of him walsall. Why dig out all these negatives about him. Lets just judge on him at vale as that is all that matters. vale fans are so keen so keen to find negatives about anything to happen to vale. He seems like a good appointment to me and im not interested in what walsall fans say about him. All i care about is how he does at vale. give the guy a clean slate to work with and get behind him
    12 points
  28. Also, anyone that can sell Zak Jules to L1 is clearly some sort of wizard.
    12 points
  29. Thought the Vale were stuck in the 80's most clubs have a structure and a proper vision of where they want to go supporters moan about the deadwood and useless players this will help stop the scattergun approach to transfers, this appointment will hopefully drag us into 2021, just doing the same old thing year in and year out is not working, some were saying Carol has no football experience she gets somone in who has AND PAYS for it and still they complain, must be a Stoke on trent thing anything forward thinking and modern is sneered at, good luck Carol, thanks for saving us from oblivion and
    12 points
  30. @Phil B Phil, these comments come every week from a wide range of people. Sproson annoys the fans week in week out. Someone on RS needs to man up and admit on air why you let an incredibly biased, transparent football agent commentate on a team featuring several players who pay him an annual percentage for representation. His bias is painfully clear.
    12 points
  31. Yes, Barrow and Grimsby have both won...but Mansfield and Colchester have both lost. Mansfield now been dragged into the mix. It's a useful point for us, tonight - not a good one, but useful. I'm not sure what some of you are expecting, from a team that had become accustomed to losing and lost most of its confidence? Add to that players having to play without being fit and match-fit. We don't need Walsall fans to warn us about the football we will see - we have seen it for most of the season, and can't, really, change it around because we don't have much depth left in the squad. Survival
    11 points
  32. I am sorry i could not say goodbye to my friend Charlie today, but due to my own Health issues i was advised not to attend.......RIP Charlie, Jimmy Doherty..xx
    11 points
  33. This is what Rudgie said about the role of the DoF when he was at Stoke: "I'm still involved in all aspects of the club, contracts, training, and attending matches, and I'm working with someone I get on really well with Tony Pulis, and I hope that I can just help him by taking the strain off him because I know exactly what its like to be a manager, which is a hard role; and can be often too much for one person. I'm here to lighten the load so he can focus on winning matches. My job involves sixty to seventy hours a week, it's very time consuming."
    11 points
  34. For me, Carol needs applause for this. I don't just mean appointing Flitcroft but her long term vision for the club. Sometimes, as fans, we only see the here and now. We want good results now! Of course we do. She obviously spends a lot time reflecting on how things have gone and is dogmatic about her long term vision of success. Of course, nothing is guaranteed but we have a plan. As fans we’ll need to be a little patient, maybe? Another key point for me is that it gives a clear message to those players who are ‘not trying’ ‘bad eggs’ or simply ‘not good enough’ that eve
    11 points
  35. When i first saw the announcement i was a little confused but having watched the interview it looks like it could potentially be a good move. He seems to know what hes talking about and from his interview they are very much still looking for a new manager so people who are saying its pughs are wrong. Carol clearly doesnt know the football side of running a football club as she has no football backround so this looks like a decent move and takes some of the pressure off carol on the footballint decisions. welcome flitcroft and hopefully a new manager will come soon to shut tyler b u
    11 points
  36. If you listened to Flitcrofts interview everything is explained. If you don't understand well thats an issue only you can address.
    11 points
  37. Excellent news, welcome Gary and good luck. Let the good times roll. UTV
    11 points
  38. Wouldn't it be fun if there were 3 or 4 candidates there and we all have to phone in to vote for who we want. All money raised will help pay wages and if it goes Tats up in 1 or 2 years time Carol can come on here moaning about how we picked the wrong guy and that she never wanted him in the first place.
    11 points
  39. Picture it: Danny Pugh oversees things till May. We finish 18th and it's not been good enough, so he steps down back to First Team Coach and we appoint External Manager X. External Manager X arrives. The players are at home/abroad (if allowed). He has a salary cap. He knows some need to be released but he's never seen 'Manny Oyeleke', 'Alex Hurst', or 'Mark Cullen' in a competitive game before. He knows a bit, but he hasn't seen them train. He asks around; Pugh, Sinclair, Garlick. They tell him what they think. No new, external perspective. He has the oldest squad in the league
    11 points
  40. Say what you want about Legge. But I was bloody relieved when he came on. He marshalled that back four in a rear guard action.
    10 points
  41. Both of these come in for a lot of stick on OVF, but watching week after week I see them running about putting out other people’s fires. Sometimes that drags them out of position, but most of the time they are covering up for incompetence. in Smith’s case, he has to contend with a goalkeeper who won’t come off his line, as well as the the chaos caused by the rest of the back 4. For Quite a few of our squad, getting the ball at their feet is a crisis. Joyce and Smith both try to be constructive, rather than just booting away possession. I don’t think they are part of the problem.
    10 points
  42. There are no guarantees in football but this appointment clearly disapproves the myths that Carol has no money / does things on the cheap. We're very lucky to have her (and Kevin).
    10 points
  43. Biggest crowd at Vale Park this season! Wonderful turn out. Charlie's family must have been moved by the numbers who were there. Carol announced that as the hearse arrived it would stop at the statue for a minute's silence. The hearse would then be led out by 6 members of staff - Tom Conlon, Scott Brown, Tom Pope, Danny Pugh, Speedie and Carol. Carol said they would be in a 2-2-2 formation. She wanted to be able to say that the last time Charlie came to Vale Park they had to escort him from the premises! A wonderful tribute to a great bloke.
    10 points
  44. According to Mike Baggaley in the Sentinel : David Flitcroft God to speak in more detail to David Flitcroft in more detail. Loads more on the way.. I know he had some good connections but thats going some 😄
    10 points
  45. Well said Fred......It's time to support the club, it's been mentioned that the last owner made decisions to suit him and his pocket, Carol is the complete opposite and deserves our support, and if she does make mistakes then be rest assured they were done honestly and with the benefit of the club in mind. UTV
    10 points
  46. Really? Around 500 games, was it? Very decent goalscoring record for a centre-back (one of them obviously being a 'legendary' goal v Spurs). 2 promotions (plus half of another promotion season, before injury cut it short) Captain for a long time - including (I think) both of those promotion seasons. Voted into the Division Team Of The Season at least once (maybe more, can't remember). Definitely a Vale legend in my eyes, and undoubtedly a Vale man through-and-through (irrespective of his radio bias towards his clients).
    10 points
  47. Having someone on commentary who is the agent for some of the players makes the points completely biased and stupid
    10 points
  48. Carol just spoke to the sentinel Looking to appoint a manager ASAP Working through a shortlist
    10 points
  49. I feel desperately desperately sorry for Carol
    10 points
  50. Would we even be having all this finger pointing if we were 7th in the league and Askey was in still charge? Probably not - Garlick would then be the steady Eddie behind the scenes helping us to stabilise a push for the playoffs or better, the manager would be doing a great job, the owners would still be getting plaudits for their good work, and the players (who are the only ones who affect our league position on the pitch when push comes to shove) would be "legends". But we aren't 7th are we? Why? Well, the players have been beaten quite a lot lately, so we ditched Askey, and have players s
    10 points


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