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  1. I like Askey and think he has done a good job since taking over and wouldn't want to judge him untill end of the season. However I think the last three games are worrying because in all three games we should have made formation changes after about 30 mins. Saturday it was obvious 442 wasn't working and the midfield was overwhelmed. The week before was the opposite after 30 mins we had so much of the ball could have easily go two up top and probably gone to an attacking 352. I think a higher league manager would have made changes during the matches and not let them drift in the way we have don
    8 points
  2. Sad to read in an article today that he has felt harshly thought of by some Vale fans who think of him as just some sort of lump who wins his fair share of headers and scores some tap ins. He's bang on when he states that his hold up play is excellent and it seems like this sort of player generally doesn't get the credit he deserves from some. It's the same thing with Troy Deeney, for just one example. I think people give him credit for the work he does for the team, but forget that he, like Tom, is actually a good player and does plenty of other things well. While Pope is never going to run
    7 points
  3. Great result today. The back five produced an absolute masterclass to restrict the most expensive attack in the league to very few clear-cut chances. Good to see Joyce and Conlon back, even though Tom had one of his quieter games. Whitehead looked a bit better than his dire showing last week. Still not convinced though. Wozza produced a decent display once again and who’d have thought he could jump that high! Monty was kept quiet, but there was no stopping that rocket; it really was a fantastic finish. I think Rodney needs a spell out of the side, he’s been poor now for a few weeks. Good
    7 points
  4. We have these threads criticising Pope regularly on here. Yes, we realise he's at the fag end of a magnificent Port Vale career and we know he missed a penalty last weekend but that should not detract from his outstanding part of our Club's history (as Bezza says) and without his goals we'd probably be playing non league football by now. If we give him the ball in the right areas he'll still score goals - as he did in our Cup run last year. The real problems we've had of late are not creating chances for the strikers and lacking a cutting edge and some creativity. He, nor Cullen, can scor
    7 points
  5. You’ve both got that wrong, I’m afraid. I’ve just found it in my back garden.... I live in Manchester. I think Askey told him to score in the Cerlisle goal and thought he meant Brunton Park.
    7 points
  6. Received yesterday from our fantastic owners. To say I am choked surprised and absolutely delighted is an understatement I feel so proud to be a Valiant not only have Carol and Kevin given us credibility but a fantastic caring community club . I cannot thank them enough for what they have done for our club. UTV
    7 points
  7. Not sure why Fitzpatrick has been a bit of a scapegoat, even to the point that people want to see RCG in the side. Someone who’s done nothing for us and is totally unproven.
    7 points
  8. This is a hobby horse of mine, but referee's are not cheats. They may get things wrong, but they are not cheats. Not even the much maligned Trevor Kettle. I realise that the topic is about referee's supposed incompetence, but if players did not play act and in effect cheat, then the referee's job would be a hell of a lot easier. I personally think that more attention should be focused on players attitude in their approach to the game as opposed to the referee's interpretation of the rules. In my view, it's the players who are far more responsible for broken play by their anti
    7 points
  9. Some absolute tripe posted in here today. Apparently Worrall doesn’t have the pace to play in this system, even though he was player of the year in it last season. Obviously was a poor game, but give credit to Harrogate they were a very tough team to play against. Was quality that let us down today rather than effort, the effort was still there from everyone. Yes Worrall had a poor game, but I think people are going OTT. He still covered every blade of grass, still involved in a lot of the play, didn’t go hiding. Just didn’t come off for him today with some mis-hit passes,
    7 points
  10. I Do agree with Rob . Phil Bowers is. a true vale fan . And I do think. He says what he see’s . I do enjoy Listening to Phil . On Radio sJoke .
    6 points
  11. I'd disagree with that. I think every man and his dog except for VFIA and 007 has Gibbons and Smith in their starting 11, and that's only because one has doubts because they are stoke fans and the other has fullbacks he wants to advertise. As for Pope, he's not the player we used to have. Still a good option with plenty to offer, I don't want him to leave yet but we definitely need to prepare for life without him, hopefully Rodney down the centre may be that player. Obviously moments like the Man city goal spring to mind but I still maintain the opinion that I was more entertained by the
    6 points
  12. Oh dear!Can't believe this subject is getting so many negative posts.I will never slag off any of that Micky Adam's team that played for nowt, initially,then performed a bloody miracle getting promotion. Tom Pope included.
    6 points
  13. Hate posts like this. This is a forum. It is where football fans discuss football. Bore off
    6 points
  14. It’s a pity Pope isn’t as good as he thinks he is
    6 points
  15. There was absolutely no reason for Conlon especially to be dropped today. Not a single one. He's not going to be an 8 out of 10 every week. If he was he wouldn't be with us and playing in League Two. Today Askey tried to be clever and ended up looking like a bit of a simpleton.
    6 points
  16. Do you really think playing two in midfield and allowing Guy the freedom of the park as a result did not contribute to our defeat??
    6 points
  17. On Tuesday, he did tons of unsung work running channels etc to help out Robinson. Theo still had to find the net and deserves credit but I think Pope must be an excellent partner to have upfront. His passing is excellent too.
    6 points
  18. How many Tesco stores depend on corner shops to provide their staff? How many Tesco stores or restaurants have changed the rules of their businesses so that they can poach the best young staff from corner shops for next to nothing? Football, and the way it is currently organised in this country, is very different from other businesses. The top of the football pyramid depends on the strength of the layers of the pyramid below. As has been pointed out, even our international team has players who learned their trade in the lower divisions. Yet those lower divisions have been increasingly
    6 points
  19. Again very poor. Should really have been 0-0 but for the awful refereeing decision. But we are not creating anything at all and that's 2 weeks in a row we've been pretty dreadful. We ought to have shaken things up at half time and changed things drastically but we didn't and it was like watching paint dry. Never in a month of Sundays will that XI score us enough goals. Nothing from midfield and toothless up front. It's really frustrating for the second week in a row. 1/6 against teams we should be looking to beat if we want to achieve anything. What exactly is Pl
    6 points
  20. I think because I purchase presidents season ticket. I just wanted to support the club ! Did not expect anything just so happy to help us get through the difficult times.
    6 points
  21. Carls a genius. He says we need to look at playing better than we have today. Amazed JA hasn't called him up for a coaching role.
    6 points
  22. What are crewe riding? A fart bubble?
    6 points
  23. I think what we have forgotten is he came in to a club where players were turning up drunk to training eating leftovers and he had 2 players banned for failing drug tests. Yes he's slow with his substitutions and he got the Carlisle game completely wrong but He's taken us from stale pies to promotion contenders in 2 seasons
    5 points
  24. Askey? Well, I know where we were when he arrived. I know where we've been for the last 6 or 7 years and I know I'm feeling better now than I was then. We haven't finished higher than our current 8th position for some time so I'm willing to assume that he knows better than I do. A full season needs the use of a full squad. He has procured one where we have genuine competition at every spot. That will pay off in February, March and April. We sill suffer through some tough games just like we have. So what! We are definitely going in the right direction. Get behind him.
    5 points
  25. I don't see it that way at all. I think it's the right and honest thing to say they thought it was a bad challenge and to say what they thought they saw. I then thought it was the right and honest thing to then mention that fans watching with replays said there was no contact and to pass that information on. It's not a commentator's job to "just keep quiet" it's to comment on the game. It's live commentary for goodness sake - they have to give an immediate view on the whole match picture without any replays, without a producer in the studio checking other camera angles and stuff. In
    5 points
  26. Brown 8 two great saves loved his performance faultless Clark 8 galloping brilliant Legge 8 solid as a rock Smith 8 faultless Fitzpatrick 8 did anyone get past him.No tremendous Worrall 7 buzzed around set up the goal good combination play with Clark Joyce 7 dependable nothing flash but gets stuck in ,love this player Whitehead 7 kept having shots and miskicked after magical work by Clark at end of first half but kept having a go and that what we want . Conlon 7 buzzed around worked hard would have liked see him more on the ball though Rodne
    5 points
  27. When talking about being solid, I’m talking about the team (especially the defence) were solid. From reading the comments during the match I feel that Whitehead has been unfairly scrutinised because one or two people have made a negative comment about him. Then, what follows is others analyse his performance more than other players. I’m not saying he played brilliantly but he wasn’t awful. We’ve lacked the ability to create chance and he got himself into a position to get a few shots away. Maybe (like Monty) if he had scored, there may not be as much criticism. Also, when we cr
    5 points
  28. Great result, back to basics at 433 which is, like it or not, our formation. we were a little toothless upfront but, last 8 mins aside, they certainly were not bombarding us showing how well the defence played! Big shout out to Fitzpatrick who is the lazy mans boo boy but showed why he is here today. Kept one of the highest paid players in the league quiet. Tuesday will be a good game, we play better against team to attack us which you will assume Cambridge will.
    5 points
  29. Inspired substitution to bring Robinson on, he did a lot to create the goal.
    5 points
  30. Never a dull Moment being a Vale fan. Those last few minutes have aged me. Don't care how we do it all about the three points. The lack of creativity and strikers not scoring is a worry but we go again Tuesday. Clark was fantastic today and you can tell already he's much better then league 2 Scott Brown deserves a new contract , statue , keys to the city and free oatcakes for life. I love that man
    5 points
  31. For me: Brown Clark Legge Smith Monty Joyce Oyeleke Conlon Worrall Pope Rodney
    5 points
  32. Wow some of the posts on here,lets just remember where we were 18mths ago and what happened last season before we all have breakdowns 5 games have been played in the league,i would sooner see where we are after the first 10,far more important things to worry about than a manager at a football club......oh the same manager the majority were wanting to give a knighthood to after last season.
    5 points
  33. The simple fact of the matter is that the players have not played well enough often enough so far. I think JA got it wrong today but nobody was moaning last season when we were flirting with the playoffs. We've kept the same players, and added one or two more to the squad, but we haven't clicked yet. Plus we've had a bit of bad luck with injuries. The main thing for me is that several of the players, no names, haven't individually hit the form that they showed last season. I think today John got suckered by the midweek performance, against a weak Wigan team, who I think with a full s
    5 points
  34. Good god that was awful. I like Askey a lot but he got it badly wrong today in terms of formation and personnel. Some truly dreadful individual performances- Whitehead, Burgess, Robinson, Crookes, Rodney (albeit out of position). Only players who came out of today with any credit today were Brown and Montano, and Conlon who did more in 25 mins than the other midfielders did all match. Back to basics next week. 4-3-3 with high pressing. That’s when we’ve been at our best.
    5 points
  35. Don’t really know where to start... I feared the worst when I saw the team. Worrall, Whitehead, Burgess and Rodney isn’t a midfield which is going to win you games, it’s as simple as that. I honestly question what was going through Askey’s head to drop Joyce and Conlon, who are arguably our two best midfielders. Rodney isn’t a LM, he isn’t disciplined enough and it completely kills his best attributes. I noticed on a number of occasions Rodney leaving Monty exposed by not tracking back. Worrall was better today, but still not as good as he can be. Whitehead is woeful. I felt sorry Burge
    5 points
  36. So we had two chances and only one on target. Does that not suggest that we didn’t create enough? They had 16 efforts on goal. Does that not suggest that our midfield was giving their’s far too much space??
    5 points
  37. That's the problem right there. Best player at the club
    5 points
  38. Worst player on the pitch today. Almost got himself sent off in the first half and in the second, when perfectly placed, he sent a shot from the edge of the D into the stands. Then with probably our last chance to send a good free kick into the box, it doesn't even clear the first defender. Can't blame the lad really, he was having a mare, but by that time Askey should have subbed him.
    5 points
  39. Popey has lost an extra yard in pace , but he was always a yard short in the pace department as he has freely admitted. What upsets Popey is the comment that if he plays you need to the pump the ball up in the air to him. This is because you cannot knock the ball over the top and expect him to compete with defenders anymore. No offence I believe is intended just a confirmation of the above, he is a club legend and always will be. If we are to play to his strengths I dont believe playing him as the sole striker works, pacey wingers will cross the ball into a box lacking Popey. The bette
    5 points
  40. I think the ones who criticise Popey are in a small minority and he shouldn't take it too seriously.
    5 points
  41. Top marks to JA and team for this and, of course, to our owners who presumably have had to stump up the cash 😀. Let's hope we make Carlisle pay on Saturday!
    5 points
  42. Like the look of this TB very attacking and surely will create plenty of goal scoring opportunities. Lets frighten teams with pace and attacking drive, not with aimless possession.
    5 points
  43. Carol has been on Radio 5 live ,late last night and with Nicky Campbell this morning, discussing Vale and the lower league plight .She was tremendous and well received by the presenters. Well done for another great bit of common sense Carol.Also, for another brilliant PR job for the club.
    5 points
  44. He does deserve his own thread. A massive character both on and off the pitch. I was only thinking today about how good he's been. Obviously there were some fabulous figures under Rudge but in the post-Rudge era I would say Leon would definitely get into my all-time starting XI. I would only add one thing though - for me the promotion winning spine is Brown, Smith, Legge and Joyce. I think Luke has also been massively influential this season. It's also worth repeating for those berating Robinson that Legge and Joyce took a season to settle in. Joyce, for instance, was really of
    5 points
  45. After our first relatively poor performance of the season this thread is just 4 short of the entire Exeter thread already! Shows that people post just to moan much of the time
    5 points
  46. Hi, Just been on to my host support and it turns out there was some targeting of OVF this morning. There were scripts slowing down the server hence why the site was not available for a while. It's not quite a denial of service attack - more like people trying to get in to my server to do bad things (and luckily they didn't get in) - but it is causing high load and the site to crash. So, please bear with me this morning. I have a *thrilling* few hours, securing the site, changing passwords and the likes to ensure OVF is secure. As a result there may be the odd glitch and OVF may reco
    5 points
  47. If the season finishes now then surely we will be promoted in second place?
    5 points
  48. VFIDG, formerly VFIA, is my favourite ovf nutter of all time.
    5 points
  49. Banana skin in the making this one Tough game , they are very physical and will be hard to beat We need to be at our best next week to get 3 points
    5 points


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