JoeB2

Think people will be disappointed by the retained list. There just isn’t much room for manoeuvre. I can see absolute hell up on Monday morning. I don’t think we will ‘pay off’ anyone - a potential waste of money if someone is willing to loan them/take on most of their wages later on. It’s hundreds of thousands of pounds up front, to pay off the number of players some are calling for. I think Massey and Wilson will be released, the loanees sent back, Uche and Wynne offered terms (which Uche will reject), and maybe 3-4 put on a transfer list. I’m not for one second saying I’m happy with any of this, just a prediction. Like it or lump it, I think 15ish of this squad will be here next season, including Sang, Loft, and the other maligned lads.

There are very few people happy to write off a million a year minimum. Even less with the desire and means to lose 5m a year to finish in the top 6 of League 1. Virtually no one who would spend 15m to keep us in the Championship. Lower league football is a circus and a financial black hole - hence why it attracts unsavoury characters, as good people without ulterior motives (and retain sanity) want nothing to do with it.

Not many people would want to buy PVFC - or have the money to keep us going. You are virtually guaranteed to lose a million a year, and there’s a ceiling on the club’s revenue which would require losses of 5m+ a year to even compete in the top 6. If you deliver the fans’ dreams of the championship, kiss goodbye to 15m a year unless it’s immediate relegation. PVFC is a financial black hole with a very narrow route to success. The ground is an archaic tip. We’re still lucky to have a local owner willing to support the losses.

A truly abhorrent man. Deary, deary me. Incompetent too!

I think folk get too caught up in demanding a certain ‘type’ of signing. Experience. Proven. Winners. Tough men. Just sign good players. Restricting ourselves by chasing niche profiles arbitrarily selected by Flitcroft is what for us into this mess. If a player is good and experienced, sign him. If he’s good and young, sign him. Sign good footballers who make us better imo, not to fit a narrative about ‘who we are’.

Yes, the signing of one player around 8 years ago who had a litany of personal problems means we should write off any players at the same level in 2024. I’m sure Posh adopt the same approach with Mason-Clark and Edwards. Tolaj would be an absolutely outstanding signing - as anyone who has watched him can attest to

To pay off the remaining year contracts of the 8-10 players that people want to see gone on here, assuming they’re earning around 100k a year (2k a week) you’re talking probably 500k up front to ‘sack them’. That’s on the basis that they’re only paid up about 50% of their contract. We simply can’t afford it. It’s fantasy land. Paying three of them off would cost 150k - probably a good striker’s wages. We also can’t label them ‘the worst squad ever’ and expect other clubs to take the contracts on. We’ll have to pay a substantial % of their salary to convince, say, Tranmere to take Conor Grant’s contract.

*the day he finally left

What an awful man he was. Dear me!

Bill Bratt is a dreadful, dreadful man and is despised by a good proportion of PVFC fans. They say he finally left our football club was absolutely fantastic. Awful bloke. Are you related to him/a mate?

It’s not only not the solution, it’s an absolutely mental suggestion with no appreciation for the state of lower league football at the minute - considering we’ve removed 2 sets of owners in the last 12 years, too.

When Bruno fluked a few wins via Jak Alnwick and Alex Jones all and sundry were quoting ‘I’m very ‘appy’. When DC was a bit short with Bowers, fans called it into question. Football manager interviews are usually a tedious waste of time and offer nothing.

A well-thought out and considered solution.

Was John Rudge ‘passionate’ in interviews? Does it really matter if they win games? Im not bothered how Moore sounds or what he says. I remember fans kicking off at Clarke’s abrasiveness towards Bowers when he didn’t win for 7. We came to love it. If Moore wins games, “um no yeah” will become endearing.

I think folk are expecting too much of what we can do with contracted players. Ojo is in his 30s and has 2 years on his contract. He’s been here 2 years already so we can assume that he and his family are settled. He’s vice-captain and a regular player - perhaps played the most of any player under Moore? Im not sure why he’d leave, or why a League 1 club would choose to take on his 2 year deal. They might offer him 1, but why would he accept that? I’d be shocked if he’s not here next season, starting - and I’m not a fan of his. We might shift a couple of others, but who in their right mind is taking Loft, Grant, or Lowe’s contract on? We widely say they’re awful, never want to see them again. Do you think clubs are stupid enough to offer them a comparable wage? We’re lumped with this squad for another year.

Garrity in the attacking midfield new.

I think we probably sell one of Garrity or Chislett - I would guess Chislett, as he’s better technically, is a bit younger, and perhaps will want to move back South where’s he’s spent most of his career. Charlton wouldn’t surprise me, considering his performances against them. I honestly think we’ll hold onto Garrity. Next season could look like: Ripley Clark New Smith New Ojo New Plant New Shorrock New

If folks are demanding she lost every mistake she’s made, chapter and verse, then you’ve gone off the deep end. She’s apologised, hurting, and has promised to put it right ASAP. Season’s done. Euro’s soon. Cricket will be on. Sun will be out. Go and do something else apart from think about Port Vale, as I think we’ve all done a bit too much of that in a completely negative sense. Scrutinising an apology statement and demanding more contrition, more apology, more justice from a woman we were worshipping two years ago as we romped home at Wembley is indicative of the negative feeling taking over. I’m not sure what ‘MORE APOLOGIES!’ would do apart from make some fans feel vindicated. She’s accepted she’s ballsed it. Relegation is disappointing and was avoidable, but it’s come and gone now. The owner and the manager will be in situ. Genuinely take 2 weeks away from PVFC and come at it again fresh.

Do folk forget May 19 - May 22?

I’m just virtue-signalling.

I think you mention virtue signalling at least once a day on here

Only those with a committed desire to give her a kicking would have an issue with this. As others have said - just do your best to get it right. She’s made a load of mistakes but made a load of good decisions before that. I still think we’re in an overall, long-term good position with Carol Shanahan. Fingers crossed this was a step back that she learns from.

Said it was a big rebuilding job, and it was important to get ‘the structures’ right - not sure what was meant by that.

“My job is to start the rebuilding process”

Don’t think Moore will be walking as some have suggested - talking about galvanising for next season.