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I am very concerned about the future and have the same helpless feeling I had over V2001 or Smurf... now let me be clear on this, I am not saying Carol is like the two previous regimes but we just seem passengers on a runaway train which is heading to disaster at the moment, there doesn't seem to be the rationale behind what we are seeing, surely the owner can't be sat watching that side week in week out and thinking this is right? or acceptable? They might be phenomenal players in terms of people but its clear they are not as battlers and footballers, probably a great bunch to hang out with and good pub with but thats no good if we are getting beaten week in and out. My worry is where do we go from here? Flitcroft stays, performances dont improve, apathy gets even worse and we lose money from ticket sales, if we don't change it we are in deep trouble next season as it stands with the trajectory the football side is going. My only hope is Darren Moore and the rumoured wage is a sign that investment in the squad will be increased to rectify it and Flitcroft repeats Summer 2021 with Darren Moore able to entice some bigger name players, the one eye watering fact though is despite awful previous regimes, despite the good will Carol has and the fact we know she does care, fans are giving up on us, the apathy including within myself is growing, those same fans who fought for our club in the past just have had enough, that in itself is the biggest worry.
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I think 46/47 does it so 4 wins, 2 draws but that means we can only lose 3 games which I just dont see. Bolton and Peterborough plus one more.
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Copy and Paste from previous home games. Started well, concede a corner, concede a goal, heads drop... second half miss and one on one, conceded 5 minutes later from another corner... have a late rally where we huff and puff. Each home game is identical at this point with the same goals conceded, same performance levels.
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We will probably win this just to drag the agony out... can see it now. Vale scrape a 1-0 against an awful Burton, unconvincingly... 3 points behind them and Cambridge... big build up for Good Friday... get behind the boys! The boys are positive in all the interviews. 15:05pm on Good Friday Chris Martin heads in a poorly defended corner and the game is over. I am going this as its a decent away day but away for Good Friday so last game until Exeter by which point we could be a League Two club... feels such a waste.
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I would expect him to stay, largely as tied into a deal and has had a bad season with two clubs (all be it we are not his fault particularly) so will probably not have any summer suitors, especially with 5 years on his deal. I expect he will be paid a decent wage, probably one of the higher in L2 if we go down and it will be a decent chance for him to rebuild his status if we can get us back up again, which I am sure he will back himself to do, I expect he will command that we have a decent budget so have to see how it all pans out this summer.
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Mental, we did have a horrific Sunday record for years at one point a few years back until we beat Hartlepool 4-0 in the cup but Sunday games are far rarer than Tuesday games!
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Leyton Orient (A) match thread - March 12th
valefan16 replied to darren1810's topic in Port Vale present
Its 80% chance down but got to keep going, if we can get a win Saturday the dynamic changes and with form on sides above we probably need 14 points. Would need an upturn but somehow other teams above us are dropping like a stone so its keeping the door slightly ajar. -
Leyton Orient (A) match thread - March 12th
valefan16 replied to darren1810's topic in Port Vale present
They did have a man sent off after 6 minutes in fairness. -
Leyton Orient (A) match thread - March 12th
valefan16 replied to darren1810's topic in Port Vale present
Solid point but too little too late maybe, however we need to build on it, teams above a keeping the door ajar but we need to start winning to take advantage which still seems a way off. That said if we win on Saturday then that Burton game could become absolutely massive, so have to keep fighting. It is worth noting Reading are likely to lose another 2 points as the owner has to pay the fine (which is only 4 points then) which he didn't previously and are in a precarious position in terms of a huge shortfall this month (they are trying to sell the training ground to raise the million quid they need) so could well lose more points, whilst a sad state of affairs we are that desperate we have to keep scrapping as getting into fourth bottom may see us out of it if Reading drop below from deductions. -
Thats up to us though as all are under contract, in fairness BG may fancy giving us one year to go back up, Chislett I am not sure a side in L1 is going there at this stage.
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Leyton Orient (A) match thread - March 12th
valefan16 replied to darren1810's topic in Port Vale present
I've kind of lost interest in the season now as it feels game over so essentially becomes more of a dead rubber now. They haven't been great lately but won't need to be. -
For me, a fully fit committed Funso would be outstanding in League Two, he was a level above Mansfield for example in the cup, to bounce back quick then you want players like him, Chis and Garrity.
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I would consider him certainly.
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Looking at it as a clean slate "Whats going to get us back" I would say: James Wilson - 1 year deal - scored goals at that level is one I would look to keep who is out of contract. Smith, Ojo (if he can be bothered), Garrity, Chislett, Ripley, Clark, Leutwiller, Debrah should be retained if possible, show some nuts and don't accept bids unless ridiculous for our key players. Jones I worry about injuries otherwise hes a decent L2 player, Sang and Grant should be stand out at that level but I haven't seen enough battle to think they'd dig in at Harrogate on a January Tuesday night so probably let go. Loft as forth choice in L2 maybe but he has lost the fan base already so would be a long way back for him. Plant, Shorrock, Dipepa, possibly Lomax and Walters if he stays should benefit from a lower level and come on strong. I'd be looking for left wing back and a more orthodox Right and left back option so we can actually be flexible. 2 strikers of a decent calibre in L2 level, a battling central midfielder and playmaker and a couple of wingers, along with 2 centre halves. GK: Ripley/Leutwiller RWB/RB: Mitch Clark, Lomax plus one CB: Smith, Debrah, poss Jones plus 2 more LWB/LB: Shorrock plus one RW: 1 New LW: Plant plus 1 CM: Garrity, Chislett, Ojo (if he can be bothered), Walters plus 2 CF: Wilson, Loft (maybe), Dipepa plus 2 Thats assuming we can keep hold of our better players and cant move Loft on. It doesnt have to be another 5 year stint starting off with struggle like before but we have to get the summer spot on. Wrexham, Stockport likely gone, Gills or MK potentially gone so it isn't going to be full of big budgets like now but we need to show some bounce back.
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Leyton Orient (A) match thread - March 12th
valefan16 replied to darren1810's topic in Port Vale present
Happened in 2017/18, we smashed Luton 4-0 December 29th or 30th didn't win again until Good Friday! (30th March). We'd won 4 and drew 1 in 5 leading up to that run). I genuinely believe losing Uche has killed us, he isn't a goal machine but he held the ball up at times and caused problems and gave us physicality. We were creating hatfuls in games in December with him in the side, no surprise Chislett, Garrity and Wilson produced the goods playing with him (and Massey).