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17 hours ago, Santa said:

Colclough: abused a worker at a drive-through fast food place and got sacked by Scunny.

A few years back didn't he try to run away from the Police and thought he could hide up a tree? I think they tasered him down.

Burslem park 

So he's familiar with the area 😂

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Terrific signing. Just what we want.Young striker with pace. Looks good in the air. Scores goals with both feet. Been around a couple of seasons, so knows what to expect.To me there is more optim

Joe, I thought that Jake gave us energy that I struggle to remember anyone else doing for sometime. He also motivated Burgess who now looks lost. Together they formed a partnership that  allowed Joyce

The Pope question will need to be answered sooner or later.   with the salary cap (he will count as the average salary not what he is actually earning) then we may struggle to improve on him, but if

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6 hours ago, Guitar Ray said:

In all honesty I can’t really see there being much movement in or out in January.  Clubs just haven’t got the money, plus there’s the cap on salary plus squad numbers. To improve the first 11 will be very difficult.

I think it will depend where we are in the league tbh,we all know Carol wants the play offs as a minimum and if we are in or around them come January then i think funds will be available BUT one or two will have to be shipped out and thats easier said than done

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8 hours ago, geoff1 said:

lets put the cat amongst the pigeons, bye bye cullen , pope,robinson, amoo, mckirdy,crookes! how about that? 😜:innocent06::bomb::drink:

Not amoo excellent player at this level and not his fault he is constantly rushed back from injury. Can’t really disagree with the others although wouldn't release pope. 
 

Id add whitehead to that list though 

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8 hours ago, Walka003 said:

Really feels like we need a director of football, someone with actual scouting knowledge and not just signing people based on them playing for the manager before/them living near to Stoke.

 

Yes. I've advocated for this for a while. Our recruitment is so basic, lacking any form of imagination (in stark contrast to our opponents tomorrow). We are in pole position to sweep up the discarded talent from the elite academies of the Midlands and North West, but seem stuck in a cycle of lower league journeymen.

I wrote this recently: 

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Reading it back it's a bit vague but my point stands; we need to improve recruitment. Clubs with half our budget are wiping the floor with us when it comes to creative signings. We're still operating like we did in the mid 2000s.

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On 13/12/2020 at 11:14, Joe B said:

Amoo is harsh, he just gets rushed back from injury too much.

Pope doesn't deserve to be released mid-season.

Rest I can go with. 

I’m not sure how easy it will be to move players around in the current climate, however if it can be done, I would move on the following (either loan or permanent)

Robinson

Cullen

McKirdy

Crookes

Replace with the following:

One all round striker to replace Cullen/Robinson. Has to have physical attributes as well as pace, and be suited to the lone striker role (easier said than done)

Goalscoring midfielder. Again I appreciate they don’t grow on trees, but there must be someone out there who can contribute more goals than our current midfield. 

Commanding centre back that offers genuine first team competition. Given our goals conceded tally, I would like someone with experience. 

Then it may be a choice of letting Clark go back and bringing in a wide player, or push Monty up top for the rest of the season and keep Clark. 
 

Will be interesting to see how it pans out. 

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19 minutes ago, Boslem's Brazil said:

I’m not sure how easy it will be to move players around in the current climate, however if it can be done, I would move on the following (either loan or permanent)

Robinson

Cullen

McKirdy

Crookes

Replace with the following:

One all round striker to replace Cullen/Robinson. Has to have physical attributes as well as pace, and be suited to the lone striker role (easier said than done)

Goalscoring midfielder. Again I appreciate they don’t grow on trees, but there must be someone out there who can contribute more goals than our current midfield. 

Commanding centre back that offers genuine first team competition. Given our goals conceded tally, I would like someone with experience. 

Then it may be a choice of letting Clark go back and bringing in a wide player, or push Monty up top for the rest of the season and keep Clark. 
 

Will be interesting to see how it pans out. 

The issue we will have is shipping people out by either paying them off or someone coming in for them or sending them out on loan. Gibbo coming back into fitness is something to consider as well in regards to the fullbacks. This first few months of the season has certainly raised more questions rather than answers in regards to the squad depth. 

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32 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

The issue we will have is shipping people out by either paying them off or someone coming in for them or sending them out on loan. Gibbo coming back into fitness is something to consider as well in regards to the fullbacks. This first few months of the season has certainly raised more questions rather than answers in regards to the squad depth. 

So if we keep Clark and have Gibbo available (and Monty moves up top) we’d have Mills, Gibbo, Fitz and Clark as fullback options. We’d then have Monty, Amoo, Worrall and Hurst (assuming McKirdy goes) Probably only room for another wide player if Hurst goes on loan. Which could give us scope to bring in two midfielders.

However, as you say, will we be able to ship anyone out? I think given their track records, there should be teams willIng to give a chance to Robinson, Cullen and McKirdy. Maybe wages will be a stumbling block though. 

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So if we keep Clark and have Gibbo available (and Monty moves up top) we’d have Mills, Gibbo, Fitz and Clark as fullback options. We’d then have Monty, Amoo, Worrall and Hurst (assuming McKirdy goes) Probably only room for another wide player if Hurst goes on loan. Which could give us scope to bring in two midfielders.
However, as you say, will we be able to ship anyone out? I think given their track records, there should be teams willIng to give a chance to Robinson, Cullen and McKirdy. Maybe wages will be a stumbling block though. 
Whilst clubs may be interested in the players with the cap they will have to shift some of their players out to make room for them in their squad.

The transfer windows made signing players become almost like a house sale chain and the squad cap does so even more.

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21 hours ago, valiant_593 said:

Not amoo excellent player at this level and not his fault he is constantly rushed back from injury. Can’t really disagree with the others although wouldn't release pope. 
 

Id add whitehead to that list though 

amoo only a good player when fully fit, as soon as he starts to sprint the owd hamsting pulls. i dont think he was "rushed" back, presumably he would have thought he had fully recovered.:lecture:

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3 hours ago, wotsyobeef said:

Whilst clubs may be interested in the players with the cap they will have to shift some of their players out to make room for them in their squad.

The transfer windows made signing players become almost like a house sale chain and the squad cap does so even more.

Wait and see Salford and the likes, playing it like a fiddle! 

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Not so sure Jake Taylor would come back (is he on a season-long loan?) as he's doing well where he is. But, I would definitely try to bring him in, in close season. Bit disappointed with a few comments on Vale's scouting prowess - it doesn't seem to matter how many different clubs we bring players in from, there's still the same, boring, old comments we've had for years!  

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29 minutes ago, LancyTony said:

Not so sure Jake Taylor would come back (is he on a season-long loan?) as he's doing well where he is. But, I would definitely try to bring him in, in close season. Bit disappointed with a few comments on Vale's scouting prowess - it doesn't seem to matter how many different clubs we bring players in from, there's still the same, boring, old comments we've had for years!  

Not quite sure what you mean. Are you happy with recent recruitment? 

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34 minutes ago, LancyTony said:

Not so sure Jake Taylor would come back (is he on a season-long loan?) as he's doing well where he is.

Not sure what makes you say that.  He has only started six league games for Scunny and they've lost the lot.  He also started in their FA Cup defeat at home to Solihull.  I suspect if the opportunity arose, he would jump at the chance to return to Vale.

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1 hour ago, TJHValiant said:

Anyone who can leave the club in January should because one thing appears ominous, we won’t get relegated but we won’t be going up, so why keep paying players who won’t achieve anything for us?

Because we will be left with the poorest out of them. Why would we want someone like brown or worral to leave? 

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I certainly hope Ryan Colclough doesn’t come to Vale, he’s another Miller. 
I don’t think Pope needs to drop to the level of KAFC, he’d be able to play in L2 or the National league. He won’t be going into the licensing industry even though his grandfather used to run the pub. The pub needs to re open and his parents could mentor him but I’m led to believe they have a pub in Northwood.

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