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Match Thread: Colchester United v Port Vale


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39 minutes ago, Breadwinner said:

Vale without Gibbons is cereal without milk eggs without bacon .

Best player at the club drives forward ,wants to win and plays like it too  

Missed his drive today .

Sign him up 

 

What are milk eggs?

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53 minutes ago, Biddulph_PV said:

I didn’t say I wouldn’t, I’m no physio and don’t know what injuries he’s got. But the point is we are a L2 club and simply cannot afford to offer big deals to players who spend more time on the treatment table than they do the pitch. 

Especially not 4+

... that could have been predicted prior to appointment ... and were by many just after announcing.

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That was as bad today as it was when Askey had lost the dressing room no fight no passion no quality players going through the motions hardly breaking sweat absolute garbage can’t wait for Saturday and Crawley should be a cracker Zzzzzzzzz

That’s simplify not true , we had commitment 100%.. just not enough quality . Simple as that .. no gibbons , conlon , proctor not fit , politic to bring on . To question players commitment is a bit wrong
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Slightly off topic but to emphasise our luck against other clubs remarkable luck… Swindon score a penalty (remember them) after 96 minutes. You just know it’s not meant to be.

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1 hour ago, philmpv said:
1 hour ago, Biddulph_PV said:
Don’t sign players with questionable injury records and think a bit better about what type of players we need in January. Not rocket science. 

So you won't want Gibbons being offered a new contract this season?

We’ve got to keep Gibbo

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10 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

I know you didn’t I just jumped in on phils question because there are different ways of looking at it. Sorry mate. 
 

On the subject of Garrity we got the best out of him as a box to box midfielder making runs late into the box. This formation we are playing now doesn’t play to his strengths IMO. 

I agree with your points. The injury situation is really concerning. It was bad enough last year for DC to call it out, but it’s been even worse this year. It can’t just be bad luck can it? The pitch maybe….I don’t know?

Gibbo clearly makes us a better side. HOWEVER…. if he is a Championship Player-in waiting with other interest, we are going to have to come with a pretty decent offer to tempt him to re-sign. This means we will have to reduce what we spend elsewhere e.g. on creative midfielder, experienced striker. Does having an outstanding right back get you promotion from L2? Is it better to have an outstanding right back and unproven striker, or decent right back and decent striker? And clearly this means we have got to be sure that he isn’t injury-prone, because we’d have wasted a whole heap of budget if he is. So I don’t think it’s quite as simple as some are making out. 

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Well today’s result more or less confirms league 2 football next season. Ultimately poor player recruitment has cost us. The three goalkeepers we have brought in since Brown was released at the start of the season haven’t been good enough. Not enough was done to sign Politic on a permanent deal and we have missed his creativity and more importantly, goals. The two young strikers we brought in on loan in January, haven’t pulled up any trees or scored enough goals, although you can’t fault their effort. 
Do we really need a director of football and half a dozen coaches at league 2 level? I would rather the money be spent on getting decent players in. What is the point of having so many coaches, if the players that have been recruited aren’t good enough? 

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2 hours ago, Santa said:

Add playing square pegs in round holes when perfectly good round pegs are there to be used. 

I didn’t see any square pegs today.  Maybe there were some better round pegs than those that started.

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49 minutes ago, jeffers said:

Slightly off topic but to emphasise our luck against other clubs remarkable luck… Swindon score a penalty (remember them) after 96 minutes. You just know it’s not meant to be.

I’m not sure how winning a penalty (in any minute) can be attributed to luck? We’ve not had one penalty this season, but how many should we have had? I can’t think of many. Garrity at Burton stands out, but even that was a cup game. 

You create your own luck over the course of the season. Conceding late goals frequently is also not bad luck. 

Getting injuries can seem bad luck. However, we had the January window to try and help this. A window where we signed multiple players to help us get promoted. We’ve gone worse since then.

 

 

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I just don’t get why we persist with a formation that hasn’t worked for weeks now when we could of reverted back to one which had us flying?

It’s just stupid.

We’ve had some rotten luck this season and it does feel like it wasn’t meant to be with the injuries, Covid back log and losing DC.

That said we’ve let ourselves down at times, we’ve had enough to beat Oldham three times over and lost late one, should see out Sutton and today despite how bad we were, still with that dominance second half we should be winning. They were as bad as they were when we walloped them at Vale Park.

Add in the Rochdale balls up at the end and again comes down to game management and mentality, that is a problem we seem to have had since the Covid season where we’d have made the play offs with better late game management.

I’m not overly fussed about Flickers taking over, he is a DOF and that’s his role, you don’t usually see them cover but it’s obvious Crosby is an excellent coach and not a manager.

Overall it feels flat, it’s a massive failure not to make the play offs really with this squad, the investment and set up and level we were at earlier in the season. Simple as that, and it’s pretty gutting we are stuck playing in this dross level next season.

Have to finish strongly now and try and build towards hitting next season running, figure out who we want to keep and who we don’t.

Doesn’t need a big overhaul again but clearly so areas need addressing such as goalkeeper and attacking midfielder.

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9 minutes ago, rob1983 said:

Wasted so much money on coaches. How many have we got. Probably got more staff than some premier league clubs.

How many coaches should there be at a league 2 club? 

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We had Politic for half of the season and barely played him. Never played 4-3-3, never changed our style to give him game time. We never saw the best of him.

Suddenly Cooper plays and we bend over backwards to fit him in the starting 11. Even though he’s half the player of Politic.

I don’t get it. 

I would give my left arm to see Politic right now. Just for a bit of excitement. Imagine a Vale player actually taking a man on and having a shot? 

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19 minutes ago, rob1983 said:

Wasted so much money on coaches. How many have we got. Probably got more staff than some premier league clubs.

I don’t think so. Smurf scrapped so much. We look pretty average in the coach department. 

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