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Davebrad

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Proof of the shortcomings of the EU.

 

In the words of a Czech MEP, a visa would be a disaster, obviously the majority of the EU doesn't want that, the UK doesn't want that, so why can't we make a deal? Because one nation has one relatively small issue with a footnote in one document and that can potentially disadvantage 500m people, the majority of whom are not Spanish or British?

 

The Union is too big and has become too powerful. Individual nations have their own interests and you simply cannot align every interest of every nation.

 

A trade bloc yes. A political union no.

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The facts as I see them, are that every single project fear prediction has been proven wrong so far. I have no faith that any of the undetermined predictions will come true.

 

Predicted sterling would fall significantly against the dollar, it has.

 

Predicted UK economic growth would fall and it has, from the highest growth rate to the lowest of all the G7 Nations and that's in a healthy global economy.

 

And Brexit still hasn't happened!!!

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Predicted sterling would fall significantly against the dollar, it has.

 

Predicted UK economic growth would fall and it has, from the highest growth rate to the lowest of all the G7 Nations and that's in a healthy global economy.

 

And Brexit still hasn't happened!!!

 

So bad news is down to Brexit and good news is because Brexit hasn't happened yet?

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Predicted sterling would fall significantly against the dollar, it has.

 

Predicted UK economic growth would fall and it has, from the highest growth rate to the lowest of all the G7 Nations and that's in a healthy global economy.

 

And Brexit still hasn't happened!!!

 

All that could be down to the fact it hasn't happened..... in fact bugger all has happened

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Despite Brexit employment is at a record high of 32.6million.Falling employment at 4% is the lowest since 1975.

Wages are up 3.4%,their fastest since 2008 and inflation is down to 1.8%.

How is Brexit destroying our economy?

I think I know what the response will be from the Remainers.😁

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Despite Brexit employment is at a record high of 32.6million.Falling employment at 4% is the lowest since 1975.

Wages are up 3.4%,their fastest since 2008 and inflation is down to 1.8%.

How is Brexit destroying our economy?

I think I know what the response will be from the Remainers.

 

You just can't take one part of the economy in isolation, good as the job figures appear to be. One of the bigest losers from Brexit has been inward investment into this country. This is now at its lowest point since the financial crisis in 2008/2009. There is always a lag in the job figures as employment is still being fuelled by investments over the past 2/3 years. Employment figures will (very sadly) start to come down as the dearth of current investments takes effect. Evidence for this is the recent announcements by Jaguar Land Rover, Honda and Nissan who have all pulled planned investments and announced job cuts to come.

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All that could be down to the fact it hasn't happened..... in fact bugger all has happened

 

So bad news is down to Brexit and good news is because Brexit hasn't happened yet?

 

Guys, you can spin it all you like but a drop in the value of the pound vs the dollar and a drop in UK investment were predictions made pre-referendum and have come true.

 

We do know two "predictions" of the leave campaign that won't come true.

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Guys, you can spin it all you like but a drop in the value of the pound vs the dollar and a drop in UK investment were predictions made pre-referendum and have come true.

 

We do know two "predictions" of the leave campaign that won't come true.

 

It's not spin it's a plausible possibility.

The pound stood at 80bht 14 years ago, well before brexit, it's declined steadily since and now stands at 39bht.

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Predicted sterling would fall significantly against the dollar, it has.

 

Predicted UK economic growth would fall and it has, from the highest growth rate to the lowest of all the G7 Nations and that's in a healthy global economy.

 

And Brexit still hasn't happened!!!

 

So they've gone level with a broken clock.

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It's not spin it's a plausible possibility.

The pound stood at 80bht 14 years ago, well before brexit, it's declined steadily since and now stands at 39bht.

 

Geo, Note I said against the dollar, fuel isn't bought and sold in Bht, who cares about Bht unless your travelling to or live in Thailand.

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So they've gone level with a broken clock.

 

 

The facts as I see them, are that every single project fear prediction has been proven wrong so far. I have no faith that any of the undetermined predictions will come true.

 

So "The fact as you see them" are clearly incorrect, so no interest in facts or honesty eh, what's left.

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Paul, if the Express, Mail, Johnson and Rees-Mogg all say the moon is made of green cheese, then it undoubtedly is.

If you state some facts backed by learned opinion like the Bank of England or OECD or IMF it's just a load of rubbish and Project Fear.

 

You need to stop being sensible and accept reality. The EU has not brought us increasing prosperity and friendly relations with Europe for the past 50 years. We can easily find better alternatives for our 45% of exports that go to the EU. A Hard deal is the way to go. It won't affect our economy at all. The land of milk and honey is within touching distance. All these nasty immigrants taking our jobs and bringing down wages. All these silly laws that we don't like, like those on paternity leave and maximum working hours, can be swept away. It'll be plain selling and our economic growth will go through the roof.

 

Rees Mogg says it's true. Farage says it's true. Johnson says it's true. These are all honest trustworthy men who know what's best for us.

 

Accept the facts Paul. Don't listen to these siren voices. Two ex PMs, Clark, Heseltine, Cable and the rest are all buffoons who know nothing about the UK economy. Don't let them fool you Paul. See the light. I'll pray for you. :yes::wink:

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