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We have been sleepwalking for 15 months so not surprised its quiet. Biggest fear is unless somebody wakes us up in the next 6 months we will be following Forest Green into oblivion.

First time Post on here, be gentle with me. Surely having a DoF in place for three seasons who has bought in a lot of players, the new manager should not have to bring in three teenagers from the academy to play against a team near the top of the league. It seem to me that DM was making a statement about the players he's inherited. Only one person to blame there.

I have to be honest folks. I have zero confidence in any decision being made at Port Vale FC at the moment. Where does this leave me? Probably walking way after 49 years unless there is significant response/ change. There seems to be a 'plan' that will not be deviated from, whatever circumstances prevail. It feels wrong, has done for some time and recent statements and decisions prove to me that the Club is in freefall, crashing and burning, hell-bent on destroying any foundation laid a few years back. Sad really but it will be the supporters who suffer most apart from significant financial losses incurred by the Shanahan's, which look as though they will only get worse.

I don’t set out to insult you. If you go to a restaurant and you pay 25 quid for a cold steak and burnt chips and the person serving it to you abused you, then I take it that you pay your bill and smile and go back next week? If you go to the pub and have a warm pint for 5 quid and a bag of crisps out of date, you’d thank them and go back the following night? If you went to work and those around you were on 2000 pounds a week and not putting any effort in, yet you were an up and coming lad, who puts a shift in and tries his best on 300 quid a week, you’d have no problem with that would you? If your Mrs went out for weeks on end and you knew she was having an affair. Would you not be angry? Would you not be whiny? Would you not be a miserable son of a wretch? As you put it? Probably just best to clap along and accept. You see Tony, you keep debating with me. You will end up getting personal because your debate does not stand up. There is NOTHING wrong with “happy clapping”. Why? Because it’s everybody’s choice. People have choices in life. But I merely stated in my first post to not moan when you’re freezing in the paddock, potentially pissing in a portaloo again, after going one down against Crawley in front of 2500. I would also suggest, only my opinion Tony, going off what you posted, is that if you’re just happy clapping for your health, then you aren’t truly invested in the club, have no fight, and therefore turn up, watch the football, clap good or bad and go home. Each to their own pal. I would rather be a man and stand up and be counted and fight for this club. Have a wonderful day.

Just making ppl aware of what is probably a scam email. I’ve been contacted as it’s my birthday soon stating that I can attend a game for £79 three course meal sit in corporate seating. None of that concerned me it was the last sentence that did, when it said, I could be present for the man of the match award.

The silence from the club is deafening

Bennington ,Charsley , Pett,Conlon might not win us promotion out of div 1 but are better than what we have got at the moment. Hindsight is a wonderful thing 😞😞VTID

I agree that being positive is much better for your health , but sticking one’s head in the sand and refusing to face reality is not good . You can be a Happy Clapper , fair enough . However , I think you’re seeing the smaller picture . This is a bad situation that we find ourselves, and I’m thinking that it may be worse next season. It’s not who’s right or wrong , it’s just sad.

Port Vale football club are delighted to announce David Fraudcroft has left the club

Worrying, looks like they may be persisting with Moore. If this is the case then Flitcroft will not have my support.

It's not his fault what he gets paid. It's flitcrofts. That’s what I’ve just said.

Loans only paper over the cracks regardless. Loans used to be signings with a veiw to a permanent contract. Instead Vale have become a creshe for bigger clubs

A bit of nice news. Good to see Ollie Arblaster coming on for Sheffield United in the Prem, even if it is 6-0 down to Arsenal…

Surely if she likes him that much and wants to keep him at the club she has got to put him somewhere else and not in charge of any recruitment at all Having said that what else could he do at the club in his current role? I cant believe she hasn't come out with a nice statement saying David and the club have come to a mutual agreement where he is to leave the club due to the current situation.......THE END

She’s been taking the p1ss all season..but you can’t!

Again, what are you going on about?

Been numerous debacles assembling this squad. Was thinking about the decision to move Conlon on. By no means suggesting he was the answer. However, if and when he played, he played with professionalism and pride. Conlon was no way as good as Devine and Blaster. However, they both left in January and we bring in Weir, Gore (loans) and we obviously have Lowe on the books. Lowe seems likely to play in that defensive midfielder role. Have we upgraded on Conlon with these three? Not just in terms of quality but effort, resilience? May be looking at this through 'rose tinted specs' BUT I genuinely don't feel Weir and Lowe are any better than Conlon and Gore's done a disappearing act. Just highlighting another recruitment failure IMO.

Now there's a team Keegan's castle They played the Best football I ever seen I've always had a soft spot for them 👍

I wonder if he won the job based on a strong interview beating a selection of candidates or it was a name the chairman had heard of and thought “ I want him”

If that’s the case then maybe a little unfair to criticise over that.

Surely as a fan we all want Vale to climb to the highest it possibly can and not just want to be stable and hover bottom end league one and league two? otherwise what's the point. I am lucky enough to see all the highs we had under Rudge but also many many lows but as a fan i would love nothing more than for the Vale to be battling it out in the Championship again

League One is our average. It's not a disgrace for us to be in League Two, it's just the manner in which the playing squad has been neglected that is disgraceful, and the genuine concern that we will struggle in League Two next season.

I’ve been going since 1969/1970 season and realistically we are a div 1 club , great being in the championship while it lasted but we were punching .VTID

The Bogs that are open that is ! Another Black Mark for the Owner, accepting Hundreds of Pounds off People and then making them use Portaloos for over half a season. It shouldn’t take that long for them to be fixed.

I wonder what the age of these fans are she is speaking to. I grew up supporting the club in the height of the Rudge years, so to me, our place is in the Championship. But I recognise that historically, we've usually been lower than that. So if she's speaking to people much older than me, they might just want a Vale to exist and probably don't mind so much about where we are. At the very least though we should be an established League 1 side, and we have been miles away from that for many years now.

They are fanbase wise. Swindon currently 17th in League 2 . Got nearly 8000 v Harrogate on Saturday. We barely pulled that in v Derby. Tranmere are 18th and had 5500 v Sutton. Crowds we could only dream of in that league position. Bear in mind the away fans went on a tandem as well.

Uche always gave 100% not his fault the wages he's getting.

Yes, some applauded the players, others abused the players, some abused their fellow Valiants, some commiserated their fellow Valiants, some just scratched their heads in a daze, so no different than many other away games this season other than some of the anger at the situation the club have allowed to develop seems to have given way to resignation.

I went. I tell you what, when I got to the ground I actually felt positive. Not for the game, but for the fact that we have got great fans really. We can give ourselves a raw deal sometimes, slag each other off for being negative same for happy clapping etc. But to take the numbers we did yesterday (and consistently take everywhere really) on the run we're on, with the team we've got, to a fixture where the result was a formality and the club in the state its in was pretty bloody impressive. All the usual songs were out and everyone was behind the team from then pretty much until the second goal went in. The clubs bigger than anything we've got sitting in the office upstairs. It's imperative he goes sooner rather than later or I genuinely fear we could be the best supported club in the national league. But to answer your question Darren mate, I didn't notice anybody clapping. I left pretty sharpish on the full-time whistle and used the facilities before exiting. All I heard were boos, you're not fit to wear the shirt and David flitcroft get out of our club (which I wholeheartedly joined in with). Each to their own, but how even the happiest of clappers could clap that yesterday i cannot comprehend.

Flitcroft went for the Vale manager job. Came out as director of football. Carol didn't have a clue what she was doing then. Probably not now.

It’s beginning to feel like ‘right man, wrong time’. Darren Moore is used to working with better quality players and greater resources. I was excited by the appointment (but not the length of the contract), however it is already looking like a mistake. The situation we were in called for an experienced ‘fire fighter’ to come in short term and save our season by preserving L1 status. Then bring someone like Moore in to hopefully take us forward with his own players. I think our manager may be shocked by the lack of quality in the squad, but sitting on a 5.5 year, he’s not likely to be worried about getting fired any time soon. I think at this point, a large number of Vale fans would welcome Darrell Clarke back with open arms, with someone like Martin Foyle in to work on scouting to support recruitment, and David Flitcroft and his back room team gone. The academy is in safe hands with Will Ryder but those academy lads should not be near our first time yet (Plant excepted). I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say we are in genuine danger of dropping out of the league next season. That is how dire the squad is, and how limited the budget for another overhaul is. Trying times!

things could be worse then.

Not happy but still clapping.

He'll be well used to the likes of that 😉

Arblaster on against Arsenal 64mins, already 6-0 down. Sent from my SM-A715F using onevalefan mobile app

Possibly but I'm not sure we're getting 8000 next season v Harrogate if we're 18th and playing like Keegans Newcastle.

It couldn’t be formally announced until contracts were agreed and signed.

We had chance to go top v Burton and pulled in 5900. I wouldn't call that fans turning out . I'd call that pee poor in League one.

I'm sure there is a very good explanation and I'm sure no-one would care about it if we were top of the table. However, the issue is that it gives the impression that regular fans don't matter.

Yes the fans need an explanation and quick. Not once has Moore apologised to the Fans . Carol needs to grow a pair, admit to her mistakes and failings and do something about it and quick. HOW CAN She give a failure of a Manager who had 3 wins out of 23, a FIVE and HALF YEAR Contract. His first interview he said he wanted his Players to represent the local community and Fan base, he can’t even get most of the players to give 100% effort let alone Play Football.

Again, they aren’t big wages for this level. They are HUGE wages for the quality of player. Colby Bishop is on £5500 a week at Pompey. So when you consider that Uche and Loft combined are on over 7k, that’s frightening.

I thought it was only Carol who loved Flicker but some of these players agents must love him even more...talk about money for old rope, bloody hell....

You cant just fire players under contract. unless we can have them under trade descriptions act?

The fans are the ones that pay the wages . There is a lot that they can do. If Carol Shanahan , with all due respect, is on her high horse and stands by Flitcroft next season , there’s a problem. She’s a smart business woman , and fair play to her for achieving what she has , but if she talks down to the fans / community like a schoolteacher, there’s a problem. It seems that there is already a divide there. I don’t expect the club to tell us everything , but right now the fans are being treated badly, and it’s going to get worse next season. When we get relegated , Vale won’t be back in League One for a good few years , in my opinion. Darren Moore and Flitcroft are joined at the hip , and Carol Shanahan thinks Flitcroft can do no wrong. That kind of stubbornness , and not wanting to be proved wrong, can only lead to disaster. I’m a long way from Burslem, and my opinion doesn’t hold as much water as many on here , particularly those who go home and away for years, but I can see this ending very badly for Port Vale. It’s toxic both on and off the pitch at the moment , and if something isn’t done , we’ll find ourselves in the National League before long. That may seem impossible , but no club has a divine right to say where they should be . They have to earn it. The work ethic of this current side wouldn’t earn them a job in a butchers shop , yet alone another club. It’s disgraceful, and a slap in the face to the fans. How they can go home with a wage packet and hold their heads up is beyond me. I wonder what Roy Sproson would think ? A true servant , like many others. Sorry for the long ramble , but I’ve never seen the club like this in my 55 years following the Vale. Sometimes it only takes one bad apple , and that’s Flitcroft. Spunk Trumpet is spot on in his posts . Flitcroft is a narcissist, and I fear he will take the club down with him . Then he’ll go back to the family business, and we’ll be left with the crumbs of a football club. I sincerely hope that I’m proved wrong. VTID

And that's my point - we've not upgraded.

So far this season we've had a run of 11 without a win between Northampton and Exeter and are currently on 11 between Blackpool and Derby. Takes some doing that .

More points and put a fight with Crosby? Crosby is one of the main reasons why we are in a relegation battle. He should never have have been given the job in the first place and he should 100% of gone in October.

I think some people are concerned about the backroom setup because despite all the rhetoric it doesn't seem to be producing results on the pitch now. Also, money is money and can only be spent once regardless of the cost centre it is taken from. Not to mention the fact that money has been misspent on the playing side too. Just my opinion of course.

To be honest, even though we have had soundbites about chasing free agents - Im not convinced we are chasing anyone (other than opposition shadows on the pitch🙈🙈🙈 )

My bet would still be Troy Deeney. Been around the block, bit of a prickly character on the pitch and puts himself about. Got 4 goals for Forrest green so better than any of our current lot and must be fairly fit. Let’s face it, it’s stick or twist time and there isn’t much in the pack. Deeney is exactly the type we need atm, a fighter. Moore has to ruffle a few feathers and hope he gets a response.