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I think we’ve got a better starting 11 than last years and more importantly we’ve got a plan for playing whichever aspin didn’t really have. Personally I don’t feel we’re missing a Clark or a Hannant at the moment though, but the test of those and other positions will be when we get injuries and suspensions. Because do we have the strength and depth to replace say Legge, Smith, Gibbons, Manny, Worrall or Pope? Also the quantity over quality argument. We don’t have a big squad at all in comparison to previous seasons and are we even in a position to offer bigger money to fill positions to give us more strength, because those extra 5 or 6 potential starters in addition to our current starting 11 cost a lot of money, for example I heard from a reliable source that Clark didn’t want to come as potential competition for Gibbons such is his standing and the hopes they have for him within the club and Clark and his agent supposedly wanted the assurances he had last year that he would play. But I tend to agree if we get a lot of injuries or suspensions then I’m not sure we have the cover thats equally as good as those that could potentially be missing from our current starting 11.

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I think we’ve got a better starting 11 than last years and more importantly we’ve got a plan for playing whichever aspin didn’t really have. Personally I don’t feel we’re missing a Clark or a Hannant at the moment though, but test of those and other positions will be when we get injuries and suspensions. Because do we have the strength and depth to replace say Legge, Smith, Gibbons, Manny, Worrall or Pope? Also the quantity over quality argument. We don’t have a big squad at all in comparison to previous seasons and are we even in a position to offer bigger money to fill positions to give us more strength, because those extra 5 or 6 potential starters in addition to our current starting 11 cost a lot of money, for example I heard from a reliable source that Clark didn’t want to come as competition for Gibbons such is his standing and the hopes they have for him within the club. But I tend to agree if we get a lot of injuries or suspensions then I’m not sure we have the cover thats equally as good as those that could potentially be missing from our current starting 11.

Apart from Amoo it’s the same players as last year so if we are stronger then it’s Amoo making the starting 11 stronger

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Just now, vale victory said:


Apart from Amoo it’s the same players as last year so if we are stronger then it’s Amoo making the starting 11 stronger

No not at all. I think off the top of my head players like Worrall, Gibbons, Legge and Joyce are playing better and also we have a better way of playing too. Which this time last year we didn’t have. 

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16 hours ago, valiant_593 said:

It’s extremely similar. Filled with back up players who won’t play. Other than amoo no new players start. Cullen and Bennett have been used a bit of the bench. It’s very similar and like last season it’s hard to actually comment on half of these squad players because they never get on the pitch 

The players we have this season have been signed by the manager. A number of those we had last season were not signed by either of the managers hence why they never got on the pitch. 

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42 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

Block 50% of the forum then pal. This is a football forum it has different opinions. Don’t like it use the ignore button or stop ‘whining’ and realise this is a forum that dosent just have your opinion!

What is the point of participating in a forum if half of it is blocked..   I live in hope that whiners like you get a reality check.

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25 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

The players we have this season have been signed by the manager. A number of those we had last season were not signed by either of the managers hence why they never got on the pitch. 

There is only Amoo in the team plus Crookes who was signed on loan by Aspin who are picked in the first eleven.

The other nine signings having been signed by the Manager aren’t in the team and aren’t getting much game time.

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34 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

The players we have this season have been signed by the manager. A number of those we had last season were not signed by either of the managers hence why they never got on the pitch. 

But will half of these got on the pitch? Players like burgess and Evans 

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1 hour ago, valiant_593 said:

??? 

Ive backed askey since he took over and still back him now! Just because I’m not impressed with the signings dosent mean I don’t rate the manager. Askey is our strongest manager for a while and actually seems to understand tactics. But you’ve clearly read some posts where I’ve said I’m not happy with signings and made up that I want askey out / don’t back him. 

I think there is a difference between Hoping he succeeds and actually “backing him”

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21 hours ago, valiant_593 said:

It’s exactly the same. None of them will play just as none of the loan players played. At least with them there loan wages were covered. 

A percentage will have been covered, not all. Do you know what percentage or are you peddling an opinion? What percentage of Quigley's wage? Dodds ... there seems some evidence he cost us 800 a week and Chesterfield contributed about 1200. Some of the younger loan players may have just cost board and lodgings. There is no completely free loan signing. 

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1 hour ago, Erniemossrules said:

There is only Amoo in the team plus Crookes who was signed on loan by Aspin who are picked in the first eleven.

The other nine signings having been signed by the Manager aren’t in the team and aren’t getting much game time.

75% of our goals have been scored by players signed by the manager.

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It does make you wonder. Quigley and Harris start finding the net, Pyke gets picked up by Rochdale and started the other week... was it just poor recruitment by us or has there been something else fundamentally wrong at the club that has dragged down players who maybe aren’t as terrible as they looked with us?

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It does make you wonder. Quigley and Harris start finding the net, Pyke gets picked up by Rochdale and started the other week... was it just poor recruitment by us or has there been something else fundamentally wrong at the club that has dragged down players who maybe aren’t as terrible as they looked with us?

Nathan Ferguson has 2 in 3 games for Crawley this season

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14 minutes ago, Santa said:

It does make you wonder. Quigley and Harris start finding the net, Pyke gets picked up by Rochdale and started the other week... was it just poor recruitment by us or has there been something else fundamentally wrong at the club that has dragged down players who maybe aren’t as terrible as they looked with us?

Not one of those players had a chance in the league with us. Firstly because Pope is so good and secondly we didn’t play with 2 up front. So they have to make an impression straight away when they come on. Personally I think they’ve found their level. Judging them on scoring in the league below v the league above is another step up in quality. 

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