League 2 preparation

[Trumpingtonvale]

1 hour ago, valefan16 said:

Looking at it as a clean slate "Whats going to get us back" I would say:

James Wilson - 1 year deal - scored goals at that level is one I would look to keep who is out of contract.

Smith, Ojo (if he can be bothered), Garrity, Chislett, Ripley, Clark, Leutwiller, Debrah should be retained if possible, show some nuts and don't accept bids unless ridiculous for our key players.

Jones I worry about injuries otherwise hes a decent L2 player, Sang and Grant should be stand out at that level but I haven't seen enough battle to think they'd dig in at Harrogate on a January Tuesday night so probably let go.

Loft as forth choice in L2 maybe but he has lost the fan base already so would be a long way back for him.

Plant, Shorrock, Dipepa, possibly Lomax and Walters if he stays should benefit from a lower level and come on strong.

I'd be looking for left wing back and a more orthodox Right and left back option so we can actually be flexible. 2 strikers of a decent calibre in L2 level, a battling central midfielder and playmaker and a couple of wingers, along with 2 centre halves.

 

GK: Ripley/Leutwiller

RWB/RB: Mitch Clark, Lomax plus one

CB: Smith, Debrah, poss Jones plus 2 more

LWB/LB: Shorrock plus one

RW: 1 New

LW: Plant plus 1

CM: Garrity, Chislett, Ojo (if he can be bothered), Walters plus 2

CF: Wilson, Loft (maybe), Dipepa plus 2

Thats assuming we can keep hold of our better players and cant move Loft on.

 

It doesnt have to be another 5 year stint starting off with struggle like before but we have to get the summer spot on.

Wrexham, Stockport likely gone, Gills or MK potentially gone so it isn't going to be full of big budgets like now but we need to show some bounce back.

 

 

Would Cass be offered a contract if we’re in L2?

[valefan16]

2 minutes ago, Trumpingtonvale said:

Would Cass be offered a contract if we’re in L2?

I would consider him certainly.

[Wrex]

Of the teams relegated last season this is how they are now faring in League Two:
 

Milton Keyes - 4th (automatic hunt)

Morecambe - 10th (play-off hunt)

Accrington - 16th (mid-table)

Forest Green - 23rd (relegation)

 

Forest Green were rock bottom last season whilst the other 3 were only a few points from safety.

[fuzzyvalefan]

1 hour ago, valefan16 said:

Looking at it as a clean slate "Whats going to get us back" I would say:

James Wilson - 1 year deal - scored goals at that level is one I would look to keep who is out of contract.

Smith, Ojo (if he can be bothered), Garrity, Chislett, Ripley, Clark, Leutwiller, Debrah should be retained if possible, show some nuts and don't accept bids unless ridiculous for our key players.

Jones I worry about injuries otherwise hes a decent L2 player, Sang and Grant should be stand out at that level but I haven't seen enough battle to think they'd dig in at Harrogate on a January Tuesday night so probably let go.

Loft as forth choice in L2 maybe but he has lost the fan base already so would be a long way back for him.

Plant, Shorrock, Dipepa, possibly Lomax and Walters if he stays should benefit from a lower level and come on strong.

I'd be looking for left wing back and a more orthodox Right and left back option so we can actually be flexible. 2 strikers of a decent calibre in L2 level, a battling central midfielder and playmaker and a couple of wingers, along with 2 centre halves.

 

GK: Ripley/Leutwiller

RWB/RB: Mitch Clark, Lomax plus one

CB: Smith, Debrah, poss Jones plus 2 more

LWB/LB: Shorrock plus one

RW: 1 New

LW: Plant plus 1

CM: Garrity, Chislett, Ojo (if he can be bothered), Walters plus 2

CF: Wilson, Loft (maybe), Dipepa plus 2

Thats assuming we can keep hold of our better players and cant move Loft on.

 

It doesnt have to be another 5 year stint starting off with struggle like before but we have to get the summer spot on.

Wrexham, Stockport likely gone, Gills or MK potentially gone so it isn't going to be full of big budgets like now but we need to show some bounce back.

 

 

Spot on for me. I would add that its difficult to tell whether Ojo has downed tools or is still carrying that injury and is playing at about 50% or even whether the fact he has poorer players in midfield with him is making it difficult to get his game going. Possibly a combination of the last 2 with a bit of frustration and disillusion thrown in. A good summer and pre season could resolve all 3 issues perhaps and his poor form since Christmas may actually work in our favour long term as no-one in League 1 is likely to be interested.

[valefan16]

2 minutes ago, fuzzyvalefan said:

Spot on for me. I would add that its difficult to tell whether Ojo has downed tools or is still carrying that injury and is playing at about 50% or even whether the fact he has poorer players in midfield with him is making it difficult to get his game going. Possibly a combination of the last 2 with a bit of frustration and disillusion thrown in. A good summer and pre season could resolve all 3 issues perhaps and his poor form since Christmas may actually work in our favour long term as no-one in League 1 is likely to be interested.

For me, a fully fit committed Funso would be outstanding in League Two, he was a level above Mansfield for example in the cup, to bounce back quick then you want players like him, Chis and Garrity. 

[sandyford_valiant]

26 minutes ago, valefan16 said:

For me, a fully fit committed Funso would be outstanding in League Two, he was a level above Mansfield for example in the cup, to bounce back quick then you want players like him, Chis and Garrity. 

You’d imagine ojo would be the first knocking on the gaffers door trying to find an exit away from the club.  Chislett, and Ripley you’d think only left their league 2 clubs to chance their arm in the league above so I’m not sure they’ll want to stay here for another few seasons. We will end up with the core of <ovf censored> that is currently getting us relegated with the addition of 3/4 new faces. It’ll be another long hard slog in league two. 

Edited March 11 by sandyford_valiant

[valefan16]

48 minutes ago, sandyford_valiant said:

You’d imagine ojo would be the first knocking on the gaffers door trying to find an exit away from the club.  Chislett, and Ripley you’d think only left their league 2 clubs to chance their arm in the league above so I’m not sure they’ll want to stay here for another few seasons. We will end up with the core of <ovf censored> that is currently getting us relegated with the addition of 3/4 new faces. It’ll be another long hard slog in league two. 

Thats up to us though as all are under contract, in fairness BG may fancy giving us one year to go back up, Chislett I am not sure a side in L1 is going there at this stage.

[Paul6754]

21 hours ago, PV1973 said:

I don’t think any of the young lads as starters yet , neither are they players to build a squad around yet. There’s a long way to go in their development. 

Assuming Vale are gonna be in Lge 2, IMHO the squad needs to be based around experienced, good  Lge 1/2 pro's who will form the bulk of the 1st team, complemented by the young lads.

But most of all Vale need a couple of natural goal scoring strikers at least to score the goals if we are to win/contend for promo. The same mistakes regarding recruitment of strikers cannot happen again 

[werstayinup]

2 hours ago, Trumpingtonvale said:

Would Cass be offered a contract if we’re in L2?

A steady League Two player imo but would he want to stay anyway

[werstayinup]

For me if possible you would keep Garrity and Chislett(both scored a decent amount of goals in League 2),Ripley I would keep along with Debrah who should also be ok in League 2 imo,keep Clark if he can stay fit is a keep. 

Obviously keep the young lads as back up and Plant(should be a capable League 2 player if played in his position). Smith is a difficult one for me,limited and poor this season BUT could be the battling no nonsense CB you need in League 2,so not fussed either way. As for all the others I dont mind replacing them all if we can

[Packmoor_vale]

Ojo was better Saturday 

U could see the improved effort 

[Sick_Valiant]

The sale of Garrity for 180k (Release clause I'm told) would free up vital funds next season.

[osprey]

6 hours ago, valefan16 said:

Looking at it as a clean slate "Whats going to get us back" I would say:

James Wilson - 1 year deal - scored goals at that level is one I would look to keep who is out of contract.

Smith, Ojo (if he can be bothered), Garrity, Chislett, Ripley, Clark, Leutwiller, Debrah should be retained if possible, show some nuts and don't accept bids unless ridiculous for our key players.

Jones I worry about injuries otherwise hes a decent L2 player, Sang and Grant should be stand out at that level but I haven't seen enough battle to think they'd dig in at Harrogate on a January Tuesday night so probably let go.

Loft as forth choice in L2 maybe but he has lost the fan base already so would be a long way back for him.

Plant, Shorrock, Dipepa, possibly Lomax and Walters if he stays should benefit from a lower level and come on strong.

I'd be looking for left wing back and a more orthodox Right and left back option so we can actually be flexible. 2 strikers of a decent calibre in L2 level, a battling central midfielder and playmaker and a couple of wingers, along with 2 centre halves.

 

GK: Ripley/Leutwiller

RWB/RB: Mitch Clark, Lomax plus one

CB: Smith, Debrah, poss Jones plus 2 more

LWB/LB: Shorrock plus one

RW: 1 New

LW: Plant plus 1

CM: Garrity, Chislett, Ojo (if he can be bothered), Walters plus 2

CF: Wilson, Loft (maybe), Dipepa plus 2

Thats assuming we can keep hold of our better players and cant move Loft on.

 

It doesnt have to be another 5 year stint starting off with struggle like before but we have to get the summer spot on.

Wrexham, Stockport likely gone, Gills or MK potentially gone so it isn't going to be full of big budgets like now but we need to show some bounce back.

 

 

Really would not be bothered if Jones left.

injured too often and flatters  to deceive when he does play 

[Guitar Ray]

Carlisle will be having a serious crack at bouncing back at the first attempt.

Paul Simpson: Carlisle United's League One struggle highlights signings importance - BBC Sport

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

 

[Splodger]

On 11/03/2024 at 19:33, Sick_Valiant said:

The sale of Garrity for 180k (Release clause I'm told) would free up vital funds next season.

Imo 180k wouldn't get a decent centre forward,ide rather keep garrity and have work rate and his goals from midfield,we saw when he was injured how hard he was to replace 🤔

Edited March 14 by Splodger