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I’m trying to think of something worse than our defending for that goal and I’ve decided  it’s Vale1995. 

Frustrating, but can’t help feeling that, after those 6 defeats, the last 3 results represent a steadying of the ship. We’ve played 3 decent teams and have held our own. I’m feeling a bit more positiv

This is off topic but OK, "is Askey better than the current alternatives?"  And when you've answered that, please tell me why is it that fans always assume the next guy in the job will always be bette

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Over the last few weeks i think Rodney has shown the player he will be,he has had some stick on here like he is a national league player at best which imo is an insult to him,yes he is raw but he has so much going for him and in his time at Vale he will prove a few wrong.

I enjoyed the game,end to end and over the last few games no one can deny that we have created that many chances its unbelievable,also played some cracking football at times(but you have to put the ball in the net and i believe that will come),we are just getting punished for a lack of concentration. I have enjoyed the football we are playing just need get a run of wins now and it has shown that they ARE playing for the manager.

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9 hours ago, Biddulph_PV said:

Legge seriously needs a rest now. He looks completely spent, he is just wellying the ball anywhere and it’s inviting pressure onto us. 

Personally i think Legge has been fantastic for us in his time here BUT i agree with you,i would like to see Brisley get a run in the team and not just an odd game,he needs a run of games

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Pope was a major reason that there were so many chances and so much space for other players. Burgess, Conlon, Amoo and Rodney all wasted great opportunities to score. 

If Amoo hadn't been greedy, there was a tap in for Pope near the end but he chose to shoot and missed.

I still maintain that Pope and Rodney up front as a partnership would reap more rewards.

Hurst was excellent again tonight and, although he missed his one on one, it was a chance he created completely himself from nothing and he's worthy of his place in the side.

Conlon played really well but missed three or four really good chances and was it possibly him that gave away possession that led to their goal? 

If we keep playing like that, the wins will surely come again! 

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If something has gone on with McKirdy leaving Askey reluctant to play him,why not bring Clark on as a sub to play wide of the front 3,we know he can beat a player and will also help out defensively as well,just something different that an opposing team wont expect

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9 hours ago, gags 64 said:

I'm saying bottom half with one eye on those below, certainly not play offs

So we are bottom half/non league? silly comment imo but you are entitled to it

We wont finish in the bottom half i am certain of that,will we be top 7 thats debatable but we can still do it,loads of teams have good runs after christmas(i hope thats us),i stick by what i say that if we are around 6 points outside on the 1st of January then we do have a great chance depending on if we can bring a couple of players  in and ditch those he wont play

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9 hours ago, valiant_593 said:

Not sure I agree. 
we played very well no doubting that. But until we sign someone who can put the ball in the net we will lose more than we win. Add the defence into that as well 

Sounds daft but we do have players who can score,its do we have those players who can play as that lone man and score... so if we are to bring one in then we have to find one who can do that in our system,other than that we have to try and spread the goals around,we have had enough chances to win 10 games over the last 2

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9 hours ago, Guitar Ray said:

This is off topic but OK, "is Askey better than the current alternatives?"  And when you've answered that, please tell me why is it that fans always assume the next guy in the job will always be better?

Did you read what I said? I've spent the entire thread stating how well we played and results will come.

I clearly said I wasn't asking for him to be sacked. Literally right there.

I just said the initial argument (that Askey should stay because he's better than Brown, Aspin, and Bruno) is a poor one, and a better argument is 'Askey is the best we could get at present'. Was a point that if you're arguing to keep Askey in, don't make it easy for people who want him gone, as it's easily refuted, because literally any professional manager is better than those three.

Classic OVF. Read something, misinterpret it (wilfully or through poor comprehension skills), argue against the misinterpretation, and wheel away in celebration, strawman successfully rebutted, people stumbling over each other to throw a 'like' react at a post which successfully defeats an argument that never existed.

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4 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

With regards to the Askey in or out debate, i'm an in.

Take a look at the odds for the Bradford job, some truly scary candidates with Sol Campbell the favourite.

 

As a controversial point, Sol Campbell is nowhere near as bad as people like to believe he is (not saying he's good).

The bloke took jobs at the two most shambolic clubs in the league, one of which no longer exists and the other going the same way (and looking at Southend, it doesn't seem Campbell was the problem, or at least was one of many).

His win % is very poor but context is key; when he took over at Macc they were dead and buried. It was over. Was a minor miracle keeping them alive. The very knowledgeable lads on the 'Not the Top 20' podcast think he gets a very harsh ride, and I agree.

I don't like the bloke, think he's an obnoxious clown, but I remember being very impressed with how decent Macc looked against us considering they had won 2 out of 19 on arrival. I don't think Bradford should appoint him but also don't think he's this comically bad manager that many would love him to be.

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1 hour ago, werstayinup said:

Sounds daft but we do have players who can score,its do we have those players who can play as that lone man and score... so if we are to bring one in then we have to find one who can do that in our system,other than that we have to try and spread the goals around,we have had enough chances to win 10 games over the last 2

That’s the other issue though. A lot of our big chances are falling to the midfielders and they seem hopeless in front of goal. I think we need a forward in jan that knows where the net is, Taylor back and then a Cb that improves us. Very difficult in January however I think it’s now or never with this squad and waiting until the summer may be too late as I can’t see players like legge and pope being able to go again next season at a decent level 

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Enjoyable game last night

We should have won, we could have lost.

Key thing is that we are now creating chances and that was without Worrell and Montano who I thought before the game were going to be a big miss.

Despite some posters having a big downer on Askey I don’t see what more he could have done last night or Saturday other than run on the pitch and kick the ball into the net himself- team was set up to win, played well, made chances - just didn’t take them

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The last 9 home games we have 9 points.

Not fortress Vale park by any imagination. 

But we have won 50% of our away games.

Stats can mislead at times but after last years tremendous home form, we are now seemingly under pressure to perform away, starting at Walsall who are bang in form before we play 4 of the struggling teams back to back over Crimbo and New Year . 

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Their fans were happy with a point. Said we were one of best teams they have seen all season.

Keep picking up points and we will back up there at the end of the season - just need to take more of our chances!

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Last night was a decent game, reminded me a bit like Cheltenham last season football and game wise.

Leave Tom up top, not sure if we can get Mitch Clark into midfield for a try?

May be lacking goal wise and in Centre mid.

Better in last two games tbf

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