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Davebrad

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I see the traitors in Parliament have passed the statutory instrument to delay Brexit...shows that this was their agenda all along..betrayed at every turn

 

Bring on the next General Election..anyone want to have a re run on number of UKIP MPs?

 

You would vote an elitist party based on racist values with no actual policies over than blaming immigration for everything?

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You would vote an elitist party based on racist values with no actual policies over than blaming immigration for everything?

 

No I would vote a party with integrity and resilience that acted on ot's principles...unlike that lot in Parliament tonight who brought forward various indicative votes and none passed...they are destroying themselves and will pay the price at the next election

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I see the traitors in Parliament have passed the statutory instrument to delay Brexit...shows that this was their agenda all along..betrayed at every turn

 

Bring on the next General Election..anyone want to have a re run on number of UKIP MPs?

 

A re run? You still haven’t paid up for the last time you embarrassed yourself in a bet here and refused to pay up before being banned. If I didn’t know otherwise, I’d assume you were another troll account. It’s ridiculous.

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Looks like none of the new options voted on got a majority tonight. However the one with most votes was a second referendum, which got more votes than mays deal.
Clarkes option was closer than Mays, but the referendum vote applies to any deal.
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You've not heard the one about us being able to control our own border? that is pretty tangible.

 

The UK has always been able to control it's borders, however the UK has chosen not to do so. What makes you think Brexit will suddenly reduce immigration to 10's of thousands (The governments target) when the majority of immigrants come from outside the UK.

 

http://lawyers-inforbritain.uk/b-m-a/can-the-uk-control-its-borders-if-it-remains-in-the-eu/

 

Why do you want to stop immigration from the EU, migrants from the EU make a net contribution to the economy and integrate.

 

The UK can't even stop a rubber dinghy crossing the channel!!!

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Same old tripe you keep spouting who is this party you would vote for. We are heading for another referendum which is fair enough, we cannot agree how to leave, so put it back to the people, not with the vague question we had in 2016, but do you want to leave with no deal,with a negotiated deal, or do you want to remain.

No I would vote a party with integrity and resilience that acted on ot's principles...unlike that lot in Parliament tonight who brought forward various indicative votes and none passed...they are destroying themselves and will pay the price at the next election
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It's depressing - and has been for a few years since we had the vote.

 

If it's a question of compromise then you could put May's deal to the public along with remain which still seems to be the best option to me.

 

But the behaviour of some Tory MPs tonight was nothing short of shameful, replicating the noises of the farmyard when anyone who doesn't agree with them gets up to speak.

 

I really do very strongly believe that we need a new electoral system and way of working, and consign this yah boo sucks politics to the gutter.

However, the pull of history on the main two parties and the chance of unbridled power undoubtedly means that I doubt it will change in my lifetime.

 

The country is getting more and more divided. A lack of toleration and respect for others' views and rampant xenophobia is more and more to the fore.

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Same old tripe you keep spouting who is this party you would vote for. We are heading for another referendum which is fair enough, we cannot agree how to leave, so put it back to the people, not with the vague question we had in 2016, but do you want to leave with no deal,with a negotiated deal, or do you want to remain.

 

It certainly isn't remain I voted to leave along with 17.4 million people. If anything we just wanted to leave and escape a dictatorship political union

 

It is the remain camp who have caused this but mark my words time is running out for those remain traitors

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Tories got a free vote and lost..... Labour were directed and whipped and lost.

The sensible option for remainers is a second referendum on the deal.....

Accept the deal.

No deal.

Remain.

Split the leave vote and give remain an easy pass.... even that failed to squeeze through the back door.... perhaps because they don't think the public are stupid enough to not see it as a rigged outcome.

Even with a whipped vote jezzas plan failed, not everyone in his party just obeys apparently.

May offers to stand down, which I doubt will cause a general election, and it still falls apart.... who will step up to take her place?..... I suspect a more leave hard liner... but not to hard because that would not sit well with the public who voted remain.

Labour's plan failed miserably... I doubt he can push a vote of no confidence vote based on the parliamentary vote as it wasn't on a government motion but was partly on his own.

It looks like the key to the whole mess rests in the DUPs hands..... 10 controlling 600.

Question..... if a second referendum should be called because a number of people have reached voting age and it affects their future..... and given that people reach that age, and others die, every day..... should we hold referendums and general elections daily? Weekly? Fortnightly? Monthly, Lunar or calander? Quarterly? Seasonally? When the clocks go back or forward? When the temperature rises or falls below a set point? When Nelson gets his eye back?

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The critical issue I have with the May deal concerns the Irish backstop. So I go back to the start. If there is already an agreement under international law that can't be readily cancelled concerning the free movement of goods etc. across the Irish border, from historic agreement when the Republic became a country or from the peace agreement, then the May deal is just reflecting an existing fact. The backstop argument is not worth having because the UK is already in the position of commitment in international law and bound. So the May deal is pretty much as good as it will get given the parameters the EU will agree to. Vote for it. Get on with the trade agreement.

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