Warren

On the end of game boo them off stuff. I would say that the players are essentially not good enough overall, but a few are and can play at L1 level therefore being very good at L2 level. Players have got demoralised on occasions and that can appear like insufficient effort. Those players that are good enough and can contribute in future by being on the retained list should not be put off staying by a bad end of season scene. I hope the end of season is just the whimper it deserves.

I'm not going. I do hope PV can win this and there aren't any toxic post game scenes at end of season. I saw an example of defending as bad as Port Vale's last night. Block off Virgil Van Dyke, leave Dominic Calvert Lewin with a free straight run to the back post to head in unopposed. Even top teams can defend as badly as Port Vale!

It's no use crying over spilt milk. I think there are many intelligent supporters on here who would have exercised better judgement in signing players within budget the last two seasons. But I'm hopeful lessons have been learned after this game is over.

They are at home last game of the season. They'll want to please their 3700 fans. Evans took Stevenage up from L2 in his first year in charge. He wasn't able to keep them in the automatic positions or playoff positions ultimately. But they were top in the Autumn. With that fanbase, about 50% of Port Vale's he's done far better over two seasons. Hence he has been headhunted by Rotherham, a L1 / Championship yo yo team. I think Rotherham are broadly what Port Vale could aspire to become if well managed for a few seasons.

Indeed. The game was broadcast live on Sky. I don't accuse them of being slackers!

There is another interesting twist here. Stevenage, who play Cheltenham, can't reach the playoffs which they had been challenging to do for several months. But Steve Evans left the club after their challenge was over in order to take charge at Rotherham. Therefore Stevenage to me look more vulnerable than might be expected and Cheltenham - fire in bellies - may be able to take advantage.

Cambridge are not safe. They can be relegated on Saturday. See above.

Cambridge can be relegated if Port Vale win 1-0, Cheltenham win 1-0 at Stevenage and Burton win at Fleetwood. We must play the game seriously with Moore picking the best team he can. I recognise he should probably select players that are going to be retained. Therefore, injuries aside, this game is insightful for supporters ahead of the close season? I'm not coming, for family reasons.

If he is going to be retained, Dipepa needs to start regularly. I know we are unhappy with our strikers, and rightly so, but actually there is goals in Dipepa, Garrity and Chislett as forwards with another proven goal scorer at L1 / 2 being brought in as striker. So that leaves Wilson, Uche and Loft. If Uche could be got fully fit after a pre season I think he could be quite a force at L2 level. Wilson has to go because his contract is up and he's injury prone. Loft has another year, but surely a deal could be done to let him move elsewhere. What I'm proposing here doesn't break the bank. Then move back through the team. I think like Dipepa, Walters must play regularly and so too Plant and Shorrock. Ojo could be a classic older holding midfield player operating at L2 level. And then to the myriad of defenders we have. Oh God, I think the Exeter game was the final straw for me. Need a clear out. The trouble with clear outs is that it does cost. And attracting L1 defenders to a now L2 club won't be easy and has risk. I think it would help to stop playing wing backs and end up with 433. To me we will start off with a better team going forward and need to fix the back end most. I do think there is an issue with a lack of controlled aggression and physicality particularly defensively. I trust in Darren Moore.

There is a question mark. He was getting stuck in v Wycombe without a doubt. He may be someone who is a good player in a good team and gets frustrated when others around make mistakes / struggle. I look at L2 and I do think we could power out that division again next season. The tough clubs are getting promoted and hopefully MK Dons will go up. Then there is no one down there to fear provided PV runs itself well. I'm not saying it will be easy, but with three auto promotions and a play off position, we surely should be able to be seriously in contention. I suppose Crewe might still be around!

Ojo is the quality aging holding midfield player we need in L2. He will run most games.

The players we have got will be highly competitive in L2. There is a need to address the wing back / full back positions and find a striker who will score goals at L2 level to go alongside Garrity, Chislett and Dipepe. Actually, it is only viable to retain Dipepe if he plays. Otherwise let a Championship club sign him. The throw everyone out tantrum isn't viable in real life. What is viable is trust Darren Moore.

I can see Darren Moore is a good manager. He's not been able to get defenders who can't defend and strikers who don't score to perform better. It's because they are not good enough. The defence in the first few mins v Wycombe were taking the P. I nearly walked out after Wycombe scored. The whole team were taking the P v Exeter in the second half. And so it goes on, including super hero Smith passing to the opposition striker from our defensive free kick in his first game at home. I am hoping he will be in charge next year, and head up a promotion season. If he leaves, it will seriously bring into question whether I renew my season ticket. I'm not up at all for another manager appointment, and don't think that would end well.

Looking at results, we were holding our own until New Year. Since then the wheels have come off. Lost the good young players and failed to replace with equivalent. Injuries. Inability to score or defend properly. We've been in a crash dive. It does make me angry, because we didn't need to be that much better than we are to have garnished a good wedge of points. Let's suppose we had retained Ellis Harrison and he scored the same number of goals as last season with Garrity and Chislett at their level and more recently Dipepe coming through. We would be in mid table and therefore the gross mistake in not retaining or signing a striker who scores is stark.

We had a good start? Lost 7-0 away at Barnsley on the opening day of the season. One of the worst results in the Club's history.

Admittedly with Arblaster and Devine playing, the current team won away at Mansfield in the Carabao Cup. They are about to gain promotion to L1. We did well against other top teams in that division aside from throwing the game v Wrexham when the idiot manager failed to make second half subs properly. In other words, with some new players added to current players, the facts don't support your point of view at all. I do accept that L2 is a big step down from L1 and that is why the current squad would be challenging for promotion. Also, the young players coming through, if retained, will strengthen the squad.

It is nowhere near as bad as the squads when we were looking like going out of L2.

I was interested to watch Walters last night. He is a L1 player in my opinion. He was perhaps, if anything, too deferent to Ojo when on the ball on occasions. Dipepa is at L1 level as well and could be a higher level player if he keeps scoring his goals. Shorrock and Plant are difficult to assess. They would cope well in L2. Because their positions are more anonymous I am not clear how far they can go. There are four things that have cost us this season. Firstly, allowing a proven goal scorer to leave and not replacing him with a proven goal scorer. Secondly signing or retaining a shed load of defenders / wingbacks who look L2 level. Thirdly signing players who were injured / not fit when they're actually needed immediately. Fourthly, the fiasco of replacement young loaned players in January - lost two very good ones - and replaced with players who are not L1 standard and may never be. We also actively signed a young player who was injured!! The problem with a successful youth policy is that Dipepa and Walters have to leave the club to progress. So then that money has to be reinvested in acquiring players that are good enough for L1 and will stick around for a few years. We haven't got that task cracked at present.

Uche was man of the match v Exeter and Wycombe. Deservedly so. Ojo is good holding midfield player. Garrity OK. Chislett has scored some goals, but gets tackled often in vulnerable positions too deep. At L2 level, Ojo can be a useful older player who controls the game. His problem in L1 is that many of the other players, particularly the whole back 5, aren't good enough on the ball. So his attempts at controlled possession and constructive passing can be ineffective. I'm fed up. I know PV isn't the wealthiest club, but there is no reason for us to have a team that got relegated. There are several clubs above us such as Lincoln and Exeter I'd expect us to compete well against. So, I guess I have to accept mismanagement prior to Darren Moore and including the former DoF are to blame.

The last 2 years have been failure. I say that without being the owners who have to fork out. I'm sensitive to that. But surely we could have established ourselves as a safely positioned L1 team. Carol is responsible for this - of course as the owner of the business. I accept football is fraught loss making task!

I'm intolerant of posts like this. Tale the trouble to write sentences and paragraphs.

I think it would be pointless to have appointed DM and his support staff and not back him. I can see he knows his stuff. Tonight was a good strategy in the circumstances. No one can cope with the gross defensive errors v Exeter and Wycombe. The answer starts with better players.

There is a risk of a downward spiral. However, such is the gulf between L1 and L2 this squad with some changes could be challenging to come back straight away. It depends partly on the owners as they are going to need to fund a L1 team at L2 level. I would divert plans to improve the stadium / pitch to the football side.

Yes, this was so disgraceful I was seriously considering walking out. It was so bad, I contemplated if the left side defence had taken a bribe. But fair play, the team finally got going and deserved better than a loss.

Darren Moore hasn't been able to arrest the free fall he inherited. Part of that was taking over amongst a series of games where there was no time to reset. But I don't really know what he can do with a defence that flushes games down the toilet with gross mistakes. As per Saturday and tonight. But I can see he is a good manager and I'm ready to stand by him next season.