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General Erection - 12th December 2019


mr.hobblesworth

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1 hour ago, Bycarsbill said:

Whether you like it or not (and there's lots I don't like), The Conservative line on Brexit is totally transparent, straightforward and consistent.

Utter bilge. What kind of exit does Johnson want? He had to chuck a load of MPs out of his party as they didn't trust him to act with integrity. You've had resignation after resignation due to Brexit, people still don't know if your leader is trying to play for a no deal exit and have your own little sub-party with the ERG.

In comparison, Labour have been a model of stability with a very simple Brexit plan. Negotiate a deal that protects the environment, workers rights and jobs and then put it back to the people within 6 months. Vote Labour and Brexit will be sorted by June, and with a more diplomatic and conciliatory result, unlike the tories' divisive and unworkable plan. The fact is that only the thick, the disingenuous or the dishonest can state that our position is hard to understand.

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26 minutes ago, For Us All said:

How's the EHRC antisemitic investigation going on by the way,any chance of a statement before the election?

No, don't think we'll get anything until next year now. Seeing as we've done more to address racism than any other political party, not overtly worried. Hopefully the EHRC will be able to tell the difference between anti-semitism and criticism of the state of Israel. They will also, fingers crossed, ascertain which abuse is sent by actual Labour Party members and which is sent by nobheads on twitter. 

How's the enquiry in to Islamophobia in your "institutionally racist party" ? Ah, yes, your leader reneged on his promise made on live TV and you haven't had one. Odd that you're not annoyed by this seeing as your concern regarding anti-semitism is so heartfelt and sincere. 

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6 hours ago, TheSage said:

I notice most people on the right on here spend 99% of their time criticising Labour but never defending the Tory record over the last ten years or the integrity of their leading politicians. I wonder why.

It's also shallow hypocrisy to claim that Labour's plans won't work when you've spent the last three years telling everyone that forecasts of low economic growth if we leave the EU are nonsense and project fear, so you can't have it both ways. 

It's clearly implicit in everything posted that many of you would never have voted for the NHS, never have countenanced a free national system of education, the minimum wage, or measures like that involving investment of public money. 

The rubbish we've had on here lately about the NHS not being a Labour achievement is utterly farcical and a pack of lies. The Tories and Churchill voted against the bill 21 times!

You tell us all that Corbyn is a joke. Have you seen what Johnson does and says? Would you like to condemn him now for his lying and law-breaking, for his refusal to publish economic costings of his terrible EU deal, for his refusal to publish the report into Russian interference, for his breaking the law in the Vote Leave campaign, for misleading the queen, for his red bus deceit? He won't go on Newsnight or Channel 4. He's banned a journalist form his bus, changes website addresses and fabricates news articles. I think someone has worked out he's already lied about 200 times since the campaign began. 

I'm sorry if you think he's your kind of person. I'd prefer to elect someone with integrity and honesty. The truth matters a lot to me.

What is there to defend,it's the Labour voters who should be asking the questions.

Specifically,why have we lost the last three elections.

It's a nasty habit and you lot need to look closer to home instead of criticising the opposition who keep on getting elected.

The Tories must be doing something right and Labour are obviously not learning.

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2 minutes ago, For Us All said:

What is there to defend,it's the Labour voters who should be asking the questions.

Specifically,why have we lost the last three elections.

It's a nasty habit and you lot need to look closer to home instead of criticising the opposition who keep on getting elected.

The Tories must be doing something right and Labour are obviously not learning.

Blinkers firmly in place

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2 hours ago, Andyregs said:

You’ve gone and googled a quote of a political journalist asking a reasonable question to a prime minister to show she’s biased against the Tories, while ignoring that she has actually been found to be biased against labour. 

Is it just those two who are supposedly BBC Tory fans?

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The problem is you can't defend the lies and evasion and misinformation that Johnson and his cronies are putting out and so all you can do it smear the opposition.

Johnson is a pathological liar and a has broken the law, misled the queen and refuses to release the document on Russian interference. 

He avoids scrutiny because he's a mindless buffoon who can't cope with the heat of scrutiny and all he can do is resort to sound bits and catch phrases.

He's an appalling excuse for a PM and has no integrity, principles or morality whatsoever.

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