May on the way??

[Fosse69]

3 hours ago, Aussie Rules said:

Taking it back for her 12th great-granduncle Henry VIII - off with their heads the lot of them.

As for politicians making promises...I'd rather take my chances in a penny arcade to get my coin back.

 

 

Longest session of parliament since Charles I lost his head.

[Heatwave]

9 hours ago, Regal Beagle said:

How is a second referendum an act of democracy if we've set a precedent that referendum results will ignored?

It's not democracy if they make us keep voting until we return the answer that the majority  do not want.

You have made it up.

If the majority voted in a second referendum to remain then they will have returned the answer that the majority do want surely.

Do keep up. 🙂

[geosname]

19 minutes ago, Heatwave said:

If the majority voted in a second referendum to remain then they will have returned the answer that the majority do want surely.

Do keep up. 🙂

Then the leavers should be able to claim the same position and demand a 3rd referendum..... and on and on and on.

If remainers claim they will abide by the second referendum why not the first?

If a second referendum returned a leave majority would the remainers procrastinate and claim people had changed their minds?... again

[Heatwave]

1 hour ago, geosname said:

Then the leavers should be able to claim the same position and demand a 3rd referendum..... and on and on and on.

If remainers claim they will abide by the second referendum why not the first?

If a second referendum returned a leave majority would the remainers procrastinate and claim people had changed their minds?... again

Let's put it this way. The last referendum was over three years ago and at the time it was held we didn't know what the effect of leaving would be. To be honest we still don't as we haven't left yet, but the concerns of economists and employers alike, as well as the Chancellor, are ringing alarm bells. 

So, let's have another referendum now and, if the decision is to remain, honour that decision. If there's then sufficient support down the line to leave after another three years, expressed in enough signatures for a Parliamentary debate, then let Parliament decide on whether another referendum should be held.

In the end it's got to be a democratic decision and given how horribly split the British people are on the subject it's the only way it could be solved equitably. 

[Regal Beagle]

2 hours ago, Heatwave said:

If the majority voted in a second referendum to remain then they will have returned the answer that the majority do want surely.

Do keep up. 🙂

And what would you say if for example boris called a second referendum, remain won but boris left the EU anyway? 

I'm pretty sure youd feel betrayed and you would be worried about your democratic right being trashed.

[mr.hobblesworth]

@Jeremy_Hunt: “When I went to Auschwitz I rather complacently said to myself, ‘thank goodness we don’t have to worry about that kind of thing in the UK’ and now I find myself faced with the leader of @UKLabour who has opened the door to antisemitism”

Utter filth, using Auschwitz to score political points.

[For Us All]

13 minutes ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

@Jeremy_Hunt: “When I went to Auschwitz I rather complacently said to myself, ‘thank goodness we don’t have to worry about that kind of thing in the UK’ and now I find myself faced with the leader of @UKLabour who has opened the door to antisemitism”

Utter filth, using Auschwitz to score political points.

That reminds me,is Chris Williamson in or out this week?

[geosname]

7 hours ago, Heatwave said:

Let's put it this way. The last referendum was over three years ago and at the time it was held we didn't know what the effect of leaving would be. To be honest we still don't as we haven't left yet, but the concerns of economists and employers alike, as well as the Chancellor, are ringing alarm bells. 

So, let's have another referendum now and, if the decision is to remain, honour that decision. If there's then sufficient support down the line to leave after another three years, expressed in enough signatures for a Parliamentary debate, then let Parliament decide on whether another referendum should be held.

In the end it's got to be a democratic decision and given how horribly split the British people are on the subject it's the only way it could be solved equitably. 

We could leave...... then have a referendum 

[Aussie Rules]

11 hours ago, Fosse69 said:

Longest session of parliament since Charles I lost his head.

Ah! So we shall call it 'The Long, Long Parliament'... 🙂

[Paul6754]

8 hours ago, Regal Beagle said:

And what would you say if for example boris called a second referendum, remain won but boris left the EU anyway? 

I'm pretty sure youd feel betrayed and you would be worried about your democratic right being trashed.

Your democratic rights are to be able to vote, to stand for office and form a political party.

As I understand it the result of a referendum is not constitutionally binding on a government although persuasive.

Irrespective of the referendum, if the majority of all people in the UK thought leaving the EU was the best for Britain then it would have left by now, it simply isn't hence why the UK is in such a mess with the the two charlatans Johnson and Farage still trying to drive the UK into the unknown and potentially into the abyss.

[geosname]

2 hours ago, Paul6754 said:

Your democratic rights are to be able to vote, to stand for office and form a political party.

As I understand it the result of a referendum is not constitutionally binding on a government although persuasive.

Irrespective of the referendum, if the majority of all people in the UK thought leaving the EU was the best for Britain then it would have left by now, it simply isn't hence why the UK is in such a mess with the the two charlatans Johnson and Farage still trying to drive the UK into the unknown and potentially into the abyss.

One of the reasons we are in a mess is politicians moved brexit from a national position to a constituency issue.... the same people who vote party policy in which adversly affects their own constituents ... and others who took it from a national position to a personal issue.... they dont want to leave.

[geosname]

8 hours ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

@Jeremy_Hunt: “When I went to Auschwitz I rather complacently said to myself, ‘thank goodness we don’t have to worry about that kind of thing in the UK’ and now I find myself faced with the leader of @UKLabour who has opened the door to antisemitism”

Utter filth, using Auschwitz to score political points.

Is that like comparing brexiteers with Nazis? 

[Aussie Rules]

12 hours ago, Heatwave said:

If the majority voted in a second referendum to remain then they will have returned the answer that the majority do want surely.

Do keep up. 🙂

It's all 'Ifs and Buts'.

There was a Referendum; those who voted leave outnumbered those who voted remain; those choosing not to vote cannot expect a 2nd chance to have their say - its done but, as we all can see, not yet dusted.

If we believe the incoming PM will fair better than Ms May 'tis better we don't hold our collective breath. As Fosse alluded above, there are similarities in the current parliament to those of the Long Parliament - 1642-1659? where those charged with the affairs of state fought amongst themselves whilst blatantly riding roughshod over parliamentary conventions.

   

 

 

[Regal Beagle]

2 hours ago, geosname said:

Is that like comparing brexiteers with Nazis? 

Yes it is. The most hypocritical post I've ever seen considering theres a legitimate argument that Corbyn has enabled anti semitism to grow on his watch.

[Regal Beagle]

4 hours ago, Paul6754 said:

Your democratic rights are to be able to vote, to stand for office and form a political party.

As I understand it the result of a referendum is not constitutionally binding on a government although persuasive.

Irrespective of the referendum, if the majority of all people in the UK thought leaving the EU was the best for Britain then it would have left by now, it simply isn't hence why the UK is in such a mess with the the two charlatans Johnson and Farage still trying to drive the UK into the unknown and potentially into the abyss.

People voted for annexation in Crimea. Is that a democracy? There were Russians with guns standing in the polling stations. A bit more blatant than the tyranny we are facing but the result is the same.

 

Parliament voted for a referendum. The Government said the result would be implemented. 

Regardless of your wild claims the fact is that the majority want to leave. Why has this not been implemented?