Brexit again...

[TheSage]

It wasn't though was it?

Hitler was elected by the German people - largely because of the Depression and failure of other politicians to solve the economic crisis.

Voters can do some stupid things as we all know!

[Heatwave]

8 hours ago, geosname said:

Is this the first German leader of Europe since the 40s? 

The equivalent of being head of the civil service. 

[Fosse69]

Do future PMs tell fibs? Not promises or policies, but actual rules? Seems Boris does, yesterday said he held a kipper with its EU pillow, where in actual fact it is not an EU rule but a UK rule used in the IOM.. 

[TheSage]

Recession possibly on the way.

£30 billion plus hit.

The pound is now virtually the same as the Euro and much less against the dollar than it was.  Sterling going down the pan.

Put that with our £39 billion bill for paying our dues when we leave and life is looking rosy.

Never mind though. We'll have that money on the side of the bus for the NHS.

And the earth is flat and the moon made of green cheese.

The lunatics have taken over the asylum. But not yet the House of Commons, thankfully. 

[geosname]

24 minutes ago, TheSage said:

Recession possibly on the way.

£30 billion plus hit.

The pound is now virtually the same as the Euro and much less against the dollar than it was.  Sterling going down the pan.

Put that with our £39 billion bill for paying our dues when we leave and life is looking rosy.

Never mind though. We'll have that money on the side of the bus for the NHS.

And the earth is flat and the moon made of green cheese.

The lunatics have taken over the asylum. But not yet the House of Commons, thankfully. 

I doubt the £ is falling because of the brexit vote....... its more likely bucause no bugger has done anything in over 3 years except moan about it.

[Davebrad]

33 minutes ago, TheSage said:

Recession possibly on the way.

£30 billion plus hit.

The pound is now virtually the same as the Euro and much less against the dollar than it was.  Sterling going down the pan.

Put that with our £39 billion bill for paying our dues when we leave and life is looking rosy.

Never mind though. We'll have that money on the side of the bus for the NHS.

And the earth is flat and the moon made of green cheese.

The lunatics have taken over the asylum. But not yet the House of Commons, thankfully. 

 you are a drama queen, I bet your glass is completely empty...and God forbid if jez and andy get in power, you left that off your post...

[For Us All]

1 hour ago, TheSage said:

Recession possibly on the way.

£30 billion plus hit.

The pound is now virtually the same as the Euro and much less against the dollar than it was.  Sterling going down the pan.

Put that with our £39 billion bill for paying our dues when we leave and life is looking rosy.

Never mind though. We'll have that money on the side of the bus for the NHS.

And the earth is flat and the moon made of green cheese.

The lunatics have taken over the asylum. But not yet the House of Commons, thankfully. 

Are you a member of Operation Demoralise.

Cheer up,we've just won a world cup and Vale have won every game so far.😀👍

[TheSage]

Just pointing out the economic stupidity of a No Deal Brexit - in case you missed it.  😉

It's ok to want to leave the EU but you must recognise that it is having and will have a serious impact on the economy and not pretend otherwise.

One of the more recent calculations by an Emeritus Professor of Economics at Oxford has calculated that we are all about £2000 worse off as a result of voting to leave and it might get worse still.

Sterling has weakened a lot. We have dropped down the international league tables for growth from near the top to near the bottom. Mark Carney reckoned we'd lost about 2.3% GDP annually since 2016. Business investment has flat-lined. Direct foreign investment has fallen. It's partly caused by uncertainty and inertia and a realisation that our politicians haven't got a clue. But the short term tends are negative and unmistakable.

If people were not being kept in the dark and realised already that Brexit to date has cost every household £2000 then I think an awful lot of people would change their minds and realise that they'd been sold a pup. There is no land of milk and honey if we leave without a deal. Only economic disaster. If that's a price you want to pay, then fine, but at least be honest enough to admit it and stop pretending that we'll all be awash with cash once we've left.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49027889

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/economy/2019/02/how-economic-cost-brexit-being-hidden-leave-voters

Wake up, smell the coffee and join the growing group of people who have now changed their minds. 🇪🇺 😉

[Davebrad]

2 hours ago, TheSage said:

Recession possibly on the way.

£30 billion plus hit.

The pound is now virtually the same as the Euro and much less against the dollar than it was.  Sterling going down the pan.

Put that with our £39 billion bill for paying our dues when we leave and life is looking rosy.

Never mind though. We'll have that money on the side of the bus for the NHS.

And the earth is flat and the moon made of green cheese.

The lunatics have taken over the asylum. But not yet the House of Commons, thankfully. 

a follow up to my previous post and a breakdown of  yours,

 

on Currency news.co the pound is $1.24839... the euro is 1.11209... 

the money on the bus has been proved correct...

who says the world isn't flat...

the moon could be made of green cheese no ones been there to find out...

the lunatics ie mp's have always run the asylum...

[Regal Beagle]

4 hours ago, TheSage said:

Recession possibly on the way.

£30 billion plus hit.

The pound is now virtually the same as the Euro and much less against the dollar than it was.  Sterling going down the pan.

Put that with our £39 billion bill for paying our dues when we leave and life is looking rosy.

Never mind though. We'll have that money on the side of the bus for the NHS.

And the earth is flat and the moon made of green cheese.

The lunatics have taken over the asylum. But not yet the House of Commons, thankfully. 

The OBR which the BBC is quoting this from today is the source I used to prove that Boris didn't lie on the side of the bus.

 

So are they wrong about both or neither?

[Jacko51]

1 hour ago, Davebrad said:

 

 

on Currency news.co the pound is $1.24839... the euro is 1.11209... 

 

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/best-exchange-rates/british-pound-to-us-dollar-exchange-rate-on-2016-06-01

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/best-exchange-rates/british-pound-to-euro-exchange-rate-on-2016-06-01

[Howjy04]

Meanwhile,Gold is on the up.

[Davebrad]

2 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/best-exchange-rates/british-pound-to-us-dollar-exchange-rate-on-2016-06-01

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/best-exchange-rates/british-pound-to-euro-exchange-rate-on-2016-06-01

thanks for confirming my todays figs, and as to the 2016 figs yes they did drop after the result, but then trump started f**k**g the world up so didn't other countries suffer against the dollar?

[Jacko51]

1 hour ago, Davebrad said:

thanks for confirming my todays figs, and as to the 2016 figs yes they did drop after the result, but then trump started f**k**g the world up so didn't other countries suffer against the dollar?

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/best-exchange-rates/euro-to-us-dollar-exchange-rate-on-2016-06-01

[TheSage]

It is true that rates can vary from day to day. Talk about the Irish border and the vote in Parliament against a No Deal yesterday boosted sterling.

But in 2016 the Pound-Euro rate was over 1.36, and even better before then. Now, at best, it's around 1.10, but you are more likely to get less than that if you walk into Asda or the Post Office. That's a drop in anyone's language and it might well drop to near parity if there's a No Deal.

https://moneyweek.com/prices-news-charts/gbpeur/