Brexit again...

[Fosse69]

because we've tried to change things in the past, and not toed the eu line, anything we now try is vetoed, Cameron before the ref. tried again for a better deal, telling them the oppostition he had at home, but they probably thinking nothing would come of it refused, so we had the ref...

But in a club or group it is a majority decision, in the case of the EU a qualified majority, how we are so different to our neighbours I do not know, different yes but not greatly so, also only a few decisions carry vetoes.

[For Us All]

Ooh, OVF's resident genius rests his case. This from the man who stated ""Saying [tory scum] is as bad as writing it on a war memorial."

 

 

Yes,I'm sure they didn't encourage and support the action?😁

Defacing a war memorial,there's nothing more nasty and bitter than a leftie who's just lost an election?

[mr.hobblesworth]

Yes,I'm sure they didn't encourage and support the action?

Defacing a war memorial,there's nothing more nasty and bitter than a leftie who's just lost an election?

 

Saying that is as bad as writing it on a war memorial.

[Erniemossrules]

Standard, geritatric nonsense

 

Wait until Monday before you comment.

Comrade Corbyn has a cunning plan to brainwash everyone that he is a good guy who can persuade the EU to give him everything he wants from them and everything in the garden is rosy.Apparently he already has has links in the EU in the Czech Republic.

His Momentum buddies are already targeting Stoke South as a target to drop in one of his blue eyed boys (or girls) and take over the country by stealth.

Eventually if and when he is Prime Minister the country will be dictated to by the unions who have put him there.

Can you seriously imagine this country being taken seriously with such a clown as Prime Minister and Dianne Abbot as Chancellor (she has to take her socks of if she has to count over ten)?

[For Us All]

Wait until Monday before you comment.

Comrade Corbyn has a cunning plan to brainwash everyone that he is a good guy who can persuade the EU to give him everything he wants from them and everything in the garden is rosy.Apparently he already has has links in the EU in the Czech Republic.

His Momentum buddies are already targeting Stoke South as a target to drop in one of his blue eyed boys (or girls) and take over the country by stealth.

Eventually if and when he is Prime Minister the country will be dictated to by the unions who have put him there.

Can you seriously imagine this country being taken seriously with such a clown as Prime Minister and Dianne Abbot as Chancellor (she has to take her socks of if she has to count over ten)?

 

It's Sunday,so today the Labour party will want to stay in the Single Market.

Not sure what Miss Diane will want though?

[Santa]

The company building the tanks is an American multinational called General Dynamics. They’ve chosen to manufacture them in Spain.

[For Us All]

Yet all you can do is insult but not give any substance or reasoning to your thoughts. Wouldn’t expect anything less from someone who last time came out with the statement “ anyone who voted for UKIP is a racist”.

 

Ignore,it's a line they trot out quite regularly when they've lost the argument.

They don't seem to understand it's all about the numbers,not race and choose to ignore the obvious problems an extra 300,000 residents every year causes.

They'll wake up one day when their kids can't get a house.

[Santa]

I can't afford a house. But that isn't the fault of the forrins.

[philpvfc]

Yes but maybe the lower wages driven down by foreigners could be a reason.

[Santa]

Not in my case.

[mr.hobblesworth]

yes but maybe the lower wages driven down by unscrupulous bosses could be a reason.

 

ftfy.

[Guest TommyMac]

Yes but maybe the lower wages driven down by unscrupulous hooray socialist bosses could be a reason.

ftfy.

 

Nice one.

[mr.hobblesworth]

And to think people label leave voters as thick.

[philpvfc]

And to think people label leave voters as thick.

 

I don’t label anyone thick on either side but you on the other hand......

[Regal Beagle]

The immmigration debate hasn't been seriously had yet in this country. It can't be had until we can have an open and honest discussion without anyone being labelled racist, xenophobic, uneducated etc.

 

Believing that British people are better/deserve better treatment than people who were not born in this country is stupid to say the least.

 

Having a default position that we should not criticize or even discuss the effect of our immigration policy is equally stupid.

 

No one is really blaming immigrants themselves I don't think. They're blaming our Government for failing for decades to plan ahead, to put resources in place, to provide suitable jobs and housing. A big part of that, I think, is that we're unable to control who and how many people come to the country and everyone (including people who want to settle here) is suffering because of it.

 

I cannot see how anyone can argue that the current free movement system is better for the UK then a sensible self controlled policy whereby we can set a total number per year that we can accept and sustain, we can limit trades and skills that are saturated and encourage those that will fill a shortage.

 

At the very least I'd say the above is reasonable, the trouble is though that I'm probably going to be accused to bigotry and/or racism again