Brexit again...

[whotobeakiller]

Who do you blame for this?

Capitalism?

Socialism?

The welfare state..... started by whom?

 

I blame the government for not implementing a fair National wage and a fair taxation system

 

I don't have credit, if I can't afford to by something I don't buy it..... it's a very simple concept.

 

Too right. Do away with the credit system and we are half way there. Then we will see what people can really afford

 

 

I used credit in one business venture, it cost me my house........ my choice, my risk, my loss..... start again..... given that shouldn't I reap the rewards if it succeeds?

 

Gambling is something we all sometimes to do. It's the only way to succeed. You gambled and lost. Don't be ashamed...there are plenty of others (Millions) in the same boat and at least you have given it a try...just like thousands of working class people whom have lost their jobs then had their homes repossessed because free movement of Labour and services has led to their jobs going to Eastern Europe

[geosname]

I blame the government for not implementing a fair National wage and a fair taxation system

 

 

 

Too right. Do away with the credit system and we are half way there. Then we will see what people can really afford

 

 

 

 

Gambling is something we all sometimes to do. It's the only way to succeed. You gambled and lost. Don't be ashamed...there are plenty of others (Millions) in the same boat and at least you have given it a try...just like thousands of working class people whom have lost their jobs then had their homes repossessed because free movement of Labour and services has led to their jobs going to Eastern Europe

 

Why the hell should I be ashamed?.... I got up and did something different... then something else... then something else until I get where I wanted to be.

Money is a tool like a spanner or screwdriver, it has to be used or it's dead.

[tommytunstall]

Still Socialist claptrap. I am Stanfields born and bred and proud of it.

I blame the government for not implementing a fair National wage and a fair taxation system

 

 

 

Too right. Do away with the credit system and we are half way there. Then we will see what people can really afford

 

 

 

 

Gambling is something we all sometimes to do. It's the only way to succeed. You gambled and lost. Don't be ashamed...there are plenty of others (Millions) in the same boat and at least you have given it a try...just like thousands of working class people whom have lost their jobs then had their homes repossessed because free movement of Labour and services has led to their jobs going to Eastern Europe

[geosname]

Still Socialist claptrap. I am Stanfields born and bred and proud of it.

 

It's not about where you live it's more about how you get to live how you want.

[Fosse69]

That's social security and welfare out the door then mate.... just 2 of the most common bribes come elections.

 

Policy statements, I was referring to bribes to MPs to vote in parliament in a certain way. In actual fact the amounts were so small as to have a negative effect.

[geosname]

Policy statements, I was referring to bribes to MPs to vote in parliament in a certain way. In actual fact the amounts were so small as to have a negative effect.

 

Now then mate, you know as well as I they are incentives to persuade.....

[TheSage]

Ah ****, I didn't think about how the british space science industry would be decimated by brexit.

 

 

 

I'm amazed that you find 12 billion's worth of business and 40,000 jobs a laughing matter.

 

No doubt you'll find it equally funny to read this today-

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47457219

[whotobeakiller]

I'm amazed that you find 12 billion's worth of business and 40,000 jobs a laughing matter.

 

No doubt you'll find it equally funny to read this today-

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47457219

 

So what? Manufacturing has been going abroad for years whilst we have been in the EU...it boils down to Globalisation if they want to move it's nothing to do with a few quid extra on the tariffs...if they want to move they will move

 

Look at it in another way...to have a share of the single market will keep free movement of Labour...those manufacturing jobs will be low paid in years to come anyway

[tommytunstall]

You never surprise with the amount of drivel you write. It is a fact the entire Motor industry in the U.K. Will be decimated by Brexit.

 

And that is not the only industry. We have next to nothing in the way of trade deals coming in. You can blame it on the Remoaners, blame it on Project fear. Face the truth if it is a No Deal Brexit it will be a disaster for the UK.

So what? Manufacturing has been going abroad for years whilst we have been in the EU...it boils down to Globalisation if they want to move it's nothing to do with a few quid extra on the tariffs...if they want to move they will move

 

Look at it in another way...to have a share of the single market will keep free movement of Labour...those manufacturing jobs will be low paid in years to come anyway

[whotobeakiller]

You never surprise with the amount of drivel you write. It is a fact the entire Motor industry in the U.K. Will be decimated by Brexit.

 

And that is not the only industry. We have next to nothing in the way of trade deals coming in. You can blame it on the Remoaners, blame it on Project fear. Face the truth if it is a No Deal Brexit it will be a disaster for the UK.

 

Let's get real. It will be a 'disaster' for big profit shareholders and business people whom make thousands profit...it won't be a disaster for the likes of myself and others like me who have survived on peanuts for two decades

 

People in Manufacturing can always 're train' themselves. If Motor companies want to cut their noses off to spite their faces along with the rest of the elites then that is their problem

[tommytunstall]

Spoken like a true Socialist

Let's get real. It will be a 'disaster' for big profit shareholders and business people whom make thousands profit...it won't be a disaster for the likes of myself and others like me who have survived on peanuts for two decades

 

People in Manufacturing can always 're train' themselves. If Motor companies want to cut their noses off to spite their faces along with the rest of the elites then that is their problem

[Regal Beagle]

I'm amazed that you find 12 billion's worth of business and 40,000 jobs a laughing matter.

 

No doubt you'll find it equally funny to read this today-

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47457219

 

I find the constant lies from big businesses funny yes.

 

CEOs getting their excuses in nice and early, that's all that is.

 

We'll be better off after brexit, that's why so many sensible people voted for it.

[Heatwave]

I find the constant lies from big businesses funny yes.

 

CEOs getting their excuses in nice and early, that's all that is.

 

We'll be better off after brexit, that's why so many sensible people voted for it.

 

And your proof is - what exactly? Because any number of businesses (Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Airbus to mention just a few) are saying just the opposite.

[Fosse69]

I find the constant lies from big businesses funny yes.

 

CEOs getting their excuses in nice and early, that's all that is.

 

We'll be better off after brexit, that's why so many sensible people voted for it.

Not excuses, the reasons why the car industry will move from the UK, unless the country comes to its senses which is not very likely even with a deferment of Brexit.

[JohnJames]

Vauxhall will put no more money into Ellesmere Port until Brexit settled

Brexiters looking forward to Unicorn farms