Brexit again...

[Regal Beagle]

One of the UK's most successful space entrepreneurs has launched a withering attack on Brexit, labelling it "galactic scale stupidity".

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47440551

 

Ah ****, I didn't think about how the british space science industry would be decimated by brexit.

 

 

[whotobeakiller]

When you are in a hole don't keep digging

 

Your hole is bigger than mine

[whotobeakiller]

I hope the local MP,s enjoy their remaining time because they will all be voted out at the next elections for not carrying out the wishes of their constituents who voted to leave.

 

Spot on and if no one decent comes forward to oppose these Labour frauds I will stand for election myself

[Heatwave]

Spot on and if no one decent comes forward to oppose these Labour frauds I will stand for election myself

 

The Labour frauds are those that are being bribed to support Brexit while their own party conference supported another referendum. Hypocrites.

[Fosse69]

The Labour frauds are those that are being bribed to support Brexit while their own party conference supported another referendum. Hypocrites.

Is not giving bribes in public office a criminal offence? Or do governments have their own rules?

[Erniemossrules]

The Labour frauds are those that are being bribed to support Brexit while their own party conference supported another referendum. Hypocrites.

 

More lies when they were canvassing to be elected they all said they would respect the original referendum.

The people in Stoke on Trent voted by 72% to leave but our MP,s listen to and are dictated to by Comrade Corbyn

Who instructs them to vote against Brexit for his own political gain.Lets have a General Election and vote out these Judas Politicians.What do you think another referendum will solve?Just more confusion and will not solve anything.If there was another General Election do you honestly think the people would accept and vote for the EU puppet Jeremy Corbyn as Prime Minister.

[geosname]

I'm many things but certainly no socialist

 

 

Stop swearing at me I work for a living and just as hard as you and many before you whom 'own their own gaffes'

 

I'm certainly no socialist...thought you had to be rich to be that. Highly offended that you should even assume as such

 

I didn't say you were.

I'm retired, not worked for well over 15 years, don't own my own gaffe.

I didn't swear.

You don't have to be rich to be a true socialist, just mentally challenged.

Socialism as an idea is great, as a reality it's a disaster.

Socialist politicians tend to offer a group of people, the have nots, something they want at the cost of people they dislike, the haves. Especially when electioneering.

[geosname]

I did a test online and got this result after answering 20 questions

You believe in democracy but hold that social equality is the most important aim of a good government. You loathe the gap between the rich and poor and find that public health care, welfare, insurance, and education help reduce injustice and unfairness. You are in favor of high taxes on the rich.

Your ideal country is a democracy with a fair income distribution maintained by a strong government. The closest real - life countries to this are Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. Most democratic countries have a Socialist, Social Democrat or Labour Party which would suit you'

 

I don't think either Labour nor Conservative fit the bill for any of the above paragraph. I have been anti EU because of the effect it is having on the lower working classes and that cannot be denied

 

Some people are just too selfish and afraid of giving opportunities to other people because of what they will lose. It boils down to insecurity and why many do not want to leave the EU...remainers in a nutshell

 

The closest countries to socialism are Venezuela, China, Russia which are marvellous places to be unless you live there.

I believe in democracy although I live in a country that isn't democratic.

I would prefer a government with less control not more.

[geosname]

Is not giving bribes in public office a criminal offence? Or do governments have their own rules?

 

That's social security and welfare out the door then mate.... just 2 of the most common bribes come elections.

[geosname]

 

Some people are just too selfish and afraid of giving opportunities to other people because of what they will lose.

 

Why would you expect anyone to give you anything?

People are not equal, not even under the law. Orwell was spot on when he said "some are more equal than others "

Socialism relies on the taking from one and giving to another..... ok if your the recipient.... not so ok when you creep into the band of forced donor.

I don't care if rich people have more than me.... it's irrelevant to me... I would care if I had worked hard to find some financial security and the government came to me and said..... sorry pal, but Joe blogs down the road can't afford a 3rd plasma for his kids bedroom so you will have to pay for it.

Should society be fairer? ...... Definitely..... it should help the people who can't but not necessarily the people who wont.

[whotobeakiller]

Why would you expect anyone to give you anything?

 

Did I say I expected anyone give me anything? I said I expected Rich people to pay their fair share...such as paying people a decent wage for a fair days work. At present a lot of unscrupulous companies do not. Why should I work just to pay taxes to subsidise low paying employers...that's another way of looking at it. I work for a quality of living or should be not just to subsidise my own labour!!

 

 

People are not equal, not even under the law.

 

People are unfairly not equal and that is down to employers not paying proper wages and enjoying cheap labour from abroad along with laws that undermine workers such as the unfair 2 years that an employer cannot claim for unfair dismissal. Yes I agree the law is flawed in favour of the rich and needs reform

 

Socialism relies on the taking from one and giving to another..... ok if your the recipient.... not so ok when you creep into the band of forced donor.

 

Socialism means giving people a fair chance in life...nothing more nothing less. The real parasites are the rich. Why should rich pensioners get state pensions when they don't need it why should married couples with high joint incomes get help with tax? I have to pay for this and I don't want to

 

I don't care if rich people have more than me.... it's irrelevant to me... I would care if I had worked hard to find some financial security and the government came to me and said..... sorry pal, but Joe blogs down the road can't afford a 3rd plasma for his kids bedroom so you will have to pay for it.

 

I worked long hours and I struggled to save anything whilst scum bags in Stanfields whom don't work enjoy having big 50 inch plasmas on the wall. I also think shops like Brighthouse should be scrapped and cease this 'keep up with the jones at all costs stoke on trent culture. The social fabric in Stoke on Trent is broken partly because there is too much debt and evil selfishness

[geosname]

Socialism means control by the government... on every level.

[whotobeakiller]

I see he didn't respond to any of my challenges to him instead using a one sentence statement made up of nine words to sum up socialism, which incidentally is incorrect

 

Communism is controlling all areas of society

[geosname]

I see he didn't respond to any of my challenges to him instead using a one sentence statement made up of nine words to sum up socialism, which incidentally is incorrect

 

Communism is controlling all areas of society

 

Whatever name you give it won't change it.

Socialists have to decide who is rich enough to take from and who is poor enough to give to.... how much must be taken and given to level up an imaginary playing field.

None of which creates equal opportunity... people are not equal, better or worse. They are simply different.

I offered a one line answer to keep it as simple as possible, to enable a none socialist with socialist views the opportunity to understand that the concept that equality of opportunity is not the same as equality of outcome.

I believe less government control is better than force to control.

I believe...... that if you work smart not hard you get on better, .....if you work hard and have nothing your doing it wrong,...... if your chasing something because someone else has it your a fool,.... it's not the other persons fault if they have what you want.

I don't give a rats ass about the guy next door, help him out if possible but he isn't my responsibility, his wife and kids aren't my responsibility.

A business is not a social experiment, it's sole purpose is to make money, giving people jobs is a consequence of that purpose. If production costs, labour costs, overheads (ie tax) become unviable the business will either move or close.

Governments have a problem raising enough revenue to cover it's expenditure.... in business that spells bankruptcy... in government it means a cash grab... pre elections it's always promises of giveaways... followed by broken promises... governments are crap at running things.... the more they try to do it the worse they get at it... HS2.? Rexit Ferry? Nationalised industries? NHS?.... the more they dictate what the public do the more complicated it gets.

[geosname]

 

 

 

I worked long hours and I struggled to save anything whilst scum bags in Stanfields whom don't work enjoy having big 50 inch plasmas on the wall. I also think shops like Brighthouse should be scrapped and cease this 'keep up with the jones at all costs stoke on trent culture. The social fabric in Stoke on Trent is broken partly because there is too much debt and evil selfishness

 

Who do you blame for this?

Capitalism?

Socialism?

The welfare state..... started by whom?

 

I don't have credit, if I can't afford to by something I don't buy it..... it's a very simple concept.

I used credit in one business venture, it cost me my house........ my choice, my risk, my loss..... start again..... given that shouldn't I reap the rewards if it succeeds?