Post Manchester Arena explosion - views and opinions...

[valeparklife]

Post moved down to 52 from condolences thread

[Aussie Rules]

This thread is for the fallout following the tragic event at the 'arena - leaving the original for condolences only.

 

Thanks

[Regal Beagle]

Time for a hard line approach for me.

 

If the brother knew of the plan then lock him up and throw away the key. He should never be free. Same for the Dad and anyone else who might have known or been involved in the planning. They should be in a solitary wing especially for radical islamic lifers, to try and reduce the risk of them poisoning anyone else.

[Fosse69]

Under cover intelligence to get to the roots of it, costs money but has to be done. Collaborators and organisers are just as much guilty as the assassins. It is also up to the communities to denounce and inform the authorities of recruiters, instructors, etc On a wider aspect, sort out the Middle East, does there have to be continuous war?

[Valiant62]

The communities did warn the authorities. On the wider issue, stop fomenting trouble in the Middle East by selling arms to nutjobs.

[upthevale]

Under cover intelligence to get to the roots of it, costs money but has to be done. Collaborators and organisers are just as much guilty as the assassins. It is also up to the communities to denounce and inform the authorities of recruiters, instructors, etc On a wider aspect, sort out the Middle East, does there have to be continuous war?

 

Agree with that, undercover is really only way, but they have to deal with the findings and cut all this political correctness. Assassinations on the quiet one by one. News will soon spread.

 

Islam has a problem. They can try all they like to distance themselves from these wasters! But reality is that they come from their society and they have to deal with it.

 

Today, I am fuming with our government. They knew about this man for some time! Human rights, political correctness, what ever you call it, those kids going that concert had rights too! To go out , enjoy themselves and be protected by our government !

 

Why do we allow a known radical go to Libya and return going unchecked !

 

I could rant all day on this. Feel so so sorry for the victims and families. Been to many events like this and it could have been your or my kids! Makes me wanna cry.

 

I am beginning to hate the country I was born in. Government after government let the country down. Sorry, they are pathetic.

[Shropshire_Valiant]

A more hardline approach is certainly needed but is locking them up in normal prisons with other like minded ******** the answer, as they will just plot more attacks and try and indoctrinate other inmates in their sick ways.

 

That leaves either special internment or the death penalty? I'm normally for prison over the death penalty as you'd like to think certain sick ******** will suffer more in jail but there are reports terrorist prisoners are running the joints inside some nicks!

[FATBOYSTEVE]

Time for a hard line approach for me.

 

If the brother knew of the plan then lock him up and throw away the key. He should never be free. Same for the Dad and anyone else who might have known or been involved in the planning. They should be in a solitary wing especially for radical islamic lifers, to try and reduce the risk of them poisoning anyone else.

 

As I have said before we need to employ the services of our specialists like those who eliminated IRA terrorists in the seventies. Once we know who these people and there families are and more importantly where they r arrange for a covert elimination squad to pay em a one off visit

[Davebrad]

no knee jerk reaction but-

 

after these terrible incidents here or abroad the security people end up saying "they were on our radar" so why did it happen,

 

if any body comes back from Syria, Iraq, Iran, etc put them in quarintine till they can be checked for radicalisation.

 

start fighting isis properly as thou we mean to destroy them.

 

as soon as any info about one of the teachers emergies isolate them.

 

the trouble is we are fighting them with our rules... isis don't fight by any rules.

 

that earth-quake bomb is a good idea, lets drop a few more!!! seriously we are a modern tech country lets bomb the s**t out of them, we've got to kill them cause corbyns way, taking with them is going to do a lot I don't think...

 

sorry my rant is over, but its content i'm NOT sorry for.

[upthevale]

no knee jerk reaction but-

 

after these terrible incidents here or abroad the security people end up saying "they were on our radar" so why did it happen,

 

if any body comes back from Syria, Iraq, Iran, etc put them in quarintine till they can be checked for radicalisation.

 

start fighting isis properly as thou we mean to destroy them.

 

as soon as any info about one of the teachers emergies isolate them.

 

the trouble is we are fighting them with our rules... isis don't fight by any rules.

 

that earth-quake bomb is a good idea, lets drop a few more!!! seriously we are a modern tech country lets bomb the s**t out of them, we've got to kill them cause corbyns way, taking with them is going to do a lot I don't think...

 

sorry my rant is over, but its content i'm NOT sorry for.

 

good post Dave, agreed you don't need to be sorry for being honest!

[For Us All]

no knee jerk reaction but-

 

after these terrible incidents here or abroad the security people end up saying "they were on our radar" so why did it happen,

 

if any body comes back from Syria, Iraq, Iran, etc put them in quarintine till they can be checked for radicalisation.

 

start fighting isis properly as thou we mean to destroy them.

 

as soon as any info about one of the teachers emergies isolate them.

 

the trouble is we are fighting them with our rules... isis don't fight by any rules.

 

that earth-quake bomb is a good idea, lets drop a few more!!! seriously we are a modern tech country lets bomb the s**t out of them, we've got to kill them cause corbyns way, taking with them is going to do a lot I don't think...

 

sorry my rant is over, but its content i'm NOT sorry for.

 

Trump's restrictions on people traveling from Libya wouldn't have been a bad idea after all then?

[Yukon]

Trump's restrictions on people traveling from Libya wouldn't have been a bad idea after all then?

 

For ***** sake....

[mr.hobblesworth]

Aye, bombing people has worked wonders for us so far.

[valeparklife]

Is anyone else getting sick of these attacks and the pathetic response to them by politicians and our government?

 

Terrorists are blowing up our children and it's the same thing again and again:

 

#prayfor[insert name here]

Spout meaningless phrases like "we stand together" + "we are strong"

Have a candlelit vigil

Light up a landmark

Do nothing.

Wait until the next attack.

 

Repeat.

 

Paris, Brussels, Orlando, Nice, Munich, Berlin, London, Stockholm, Manchester... How many more until action is taken?

 

Hearing Sadiq Kahn say that "terror attacks are 'part and parcel' of living in a major city". WHAT?! No they are not! Children being blown up is not normal!

 

Andy Burnham said it's "business as usual" the day after an 8 year old girl was blown to pieces. So those poor families that have lost daughters, sons, mums, dads are expected to carry on as normal?!

 

It's a disgrace how soft this country is.

 

If anyone has any known ties to ISIS that aren't from Britain, deport them and ban them from the UK indefinitely. If they were born and radicalised here, lock them up for 30 years in solitary confinement. We need severe deterrents from being involved in this barbarism. There is no point "being aware" of someone that flies to an ISIS training camp then returns to Britain and just 'watching' them.

[Fosse69]

The source is in the Middle East, we or the US bomb and continue to bomb, hardly surprising that we are bombed? But we have to be prepared for attacks however unjustified they are. Apparently 3000 suspects under surveillance, takes a lot of manpower to uncover all the links and networks of more suspects. Indoctrination within this country can be reduced and elsewhere can be tracked. How many deported? Are there any figures?