Black Friday?

[For Us All]

What do you eat them with? Is this why the Swiss army knife was invented as special cutlery is required?

 

We got our new cat Sooty on Saturday..I won't be letting our neighbour Florian Watchmaker anywhewre near him just in case

 

Watch him,it might be time for a clean sweep?;)

[For Us All]

Black Friday Merry Go Round?

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/black-friday-shoppers-struggle-sell-4730426

[geosname]

What do you eat them with? Is this why the Swiss army knife was invented as special cutlery is required?

 

We got our new cat Sooty on Saturday..I won't be letting our neighbour Florian Watchmaker anywhewre near him just in case

 

I had a cat named sooty, all black and her sister was called sweep, a tortoise shell... both bitten by snakes unfortunately.... the colouring was tortoise shell it wasnt really a shell

[Guppy 4 England]

No British policeman would have shot a 12-year-old child playing with a toy gun.

 

Correct. British police officers dont carry guns.

 

However, if someone was walking around with what the public perceived to be a real gun, then armed response units would shoot the 12 year old when they point a replica gun at an armed unit.

[Guppy 4 England]

Yet again you get it wrong, however I can see why you'd get confused and make a mistake with so many police shootings, but here is the child I was referring to -

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11256858/Watch-Cleveland-police-release-footage-of-officers-shooting-dead-12-year-old-Tamir-Rice.html

 

Or do you know better than the Daily Telegraph and its news report.

 

The nit-picking over 'read' and 'comprehend' sums you up really. Everyone else on here would know what and understand what I meant, and the word read is in frequent use as in 'Read it properly'. Wouldn't be so bad if yhou didn't set yourself up as mr perfect.

 

JA is getting the two events confused.

 

My understanding is that the 18 year old had just robbed a convenience store, picking up the small owner by his throat before leaving the store , officers from inside a police car called him over to question him, he then tried to assault the officer and went for his gun, so the officer shot him in panic. The same officer who had never used his weapon before in about 15 years of being a copper and had tackled drug dealers and received certificates of commendation.

 

the thing i would say here is, if you know the police have a gun, you A) dont assault them and B) dont point a replica gun at them

[Tone]

Yes,but as it says in the link, unlike the UK the Police themselves will not release figures - but dear God, this point is trivial compared to the actual figures which are the stuff of nightmares.

 

Are you saying we should be pleased the FBI are gracious enough to admit to this horror movie scenario of 460+ precious lives being obliterated each year, as opposed to 2 in the UK.

 

I am pleased that the law requires that this information is published. I was not making a "point", I was simply correcting your false statement to the contrary.

 

They are indeed "precious lives". It is someone's son, daughter, spouse, parent, etc. But in most cases, the reason people get shot by the police is because they are criminals, a threat to the community and to the police themselves, who are there to protect us. They have made a choice to get involved in a dangerous situation.

 

This is just police killings, I remember reading recently that over one holiday weekend in Chicago alone there were something like 100 shootings, not sure how many fatalities, but that is just one single large city.

 

Exactly so, and it is therefore understandable that the police have to act. What would you expect the UK police to do if one or more individuals posed a threat with a gun? Would they hit him with a truncheon?

 

I'd be genuinely interested to know if you are in favour of strict gun control, making the US like the UK for gun ownership and police carrying guns, although I appreciate achieving the last point might be extremely difficult from the current situation as you couldn't have police without guns until the general public had mostly been disarmed.

 

I am not a gun lover at all. There is serious problem in some cities and communities here in the USA, but it's not so much a gun problem as a crime problem and, moreover, a social problem. What makes people behave like they do, such that the police have to act to defend themselves and the community with the use of guns?

 

Ironically, I feel safer in my town than I would in Stoke-on-Trent. I do not fear burglary, robbery, car theft or being beaten up on the street late at night. That is pretty much how I felt back in my younger days in Stoke. What went wrong?

[JOHNNYAITCH]

JA is getting the two events confused.

 

I know..embarrassing isn't it:blush:

[JOHNNYAITCH]

I had a cat named sooty, all black and her sister was called sweep, a tortoise shell... both bitten by snakes unfortunately.... the colouring was tortoise shell it wasnt really a shell

 

Sooty is a rescue cat form the CPL..he's 14 and had a few health options but letting my mask drop for a while :) he is adorable.

 

We hope to pick up Basil from the CPL in a week or two..he is having treatment after we found him living wild in the nearby woods having been abandoned. Poor thing had to have an eye removed and was just a bag of bones. But he is looking sharp now :)

[aspins-revenge]

I thought Black Friday was Robinson Crusoe's mate.

 

Thanks

 

Mario Ballotelli

[For Us All]

If you managed to get through 'Black Eye Friday' yesterday,you'll be pleased to know that today is 'Panic Saturday'?:rolleyes:

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-existence-of-black-eye-friday-suggests-that-britain-cant-hold-its-drink-9936952.html

[For Us All]

Asda opts out of this years circus.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/10/asda-pulls-out-of-black-friday_n_8519624.html

[Fosse69]

John lewis price match day today, again

[Bea Smith]

Although it makes highly entertaining viewing to watch hairy, muscular, sweaty, tattooed Neanderthal creatures fighting over tatty 96 inch televisions (and that's just the women, but in fairness considering men aren't supposed to like shopping there were plenty of them involved too) it really is another disgraceful step towards full Americanisation of our descending society and soon a queue will only be something found in the alphabet.

 

More seriously, I'd also be more than a little concerned that big stores with huge crowds might be the next ISIS Paris-style target.

[Paul6754]

Anything available in stores on Black Friday can now be purchased on-line with out leaving your home.

 

In the USA it's very common to be able to buy discounted and heavily discounted merchandise before a holiday or "event" eg sweets before Easter and Halloween, gifts/goods of all types before Xmas, winter clothes before winter starts etc, the internet has been the driver. As usual UK retailers are behind the times usually forcing people to pay top price or do without, hence making themselves happy and the customer not so happy, now that's the Xmas spirit. Price over volume, I know where I prefer to shop.

[Bea Smith]

Anything available in stores on Black Friday can now be purchased on-line with out leaving your home.

 

In the USA it's very common to be able to buy discounted and heavily discounted merchandise before a holiday or "event" eg sweets before Easter and Halloween, gifts/goods of all types before Xmas, winter clothes before winter starts etc, the internet has been the driver. As usual UK retailers are behind the times usually forcing people to pay top price or do without, hence making themselves happy and the customer not so happy, now that's the Xmas spirit. Price over volume, I know where I prefer to shop.

 

It isn't about the price, it's about behaving in a civilised way and not fighting like a pack of rabid hungry dogs after a scrap of meat.

What about people who cannot afford or haven't got on-line facilities too, and what you say about everything being available on line certainly isn't true here.