Black Friday?

[whotobeakiller]

It isn't about the price, it's about behaving in a civilised way and not fighting like a pack of rabid hungry dogs after a scrap of meat.

What about people who cannot afford or haven't got on-line facilities too, and what you say about everything being available on line certainly isn't true here.

 

Christmas has been destroyed by greed. The way people relate to each other in society at this very time of year proves the point. Best to stay at home...that's where Xmas belongs.

[Bea Smith]

Christmas has been destroyed by greed. The way people relate to each other in society at this very time of year proves the point. Best to stay at home...that's where Xmas belongs.

 

It seems greed is a virtue, along with selfishness for some on here, and in society generally. Profit rules Christmas, and any smblence of its original meaning has almost completely been destroyed.

 

This tacky scummy Black Friday and Panic Saturday thing and any attempts to link it to Christmas are living proof of that.

 

They read and follow the teachings of people like Ayn Rand (who actually wrote a book called the virtue of selfishness) and hate the idea of helping other people, or any form of altruism.

[Paul6754]

It isn't about the price, it's about behaving in a civilised way and not fighting like a pack of rabid hungry dogs after a scrap of meat.

 

Price is very important for some people and the uncivilized behavior is part of some people's nature no matter what country, race or creed (eg Boxing Day sales in nthe UK), hence US retailers have given customers the choice.

 

What about people who cannot afford or haven't got on-line facilities too, and what you say about everything being available on line certainly isn't true here.

 

Those that don't will find a way.

[Bea Smith]

Price is very important for some people and the uncivilized behavior is part of some people's nature no matter what country, race or creed (eg Boxing Day sales in nthe UK), hence US retailers have given customers the choice.

 

[I]Some truth in that, but the boxing day sales here have not seen scenes like the fighting at Black Friday last year - people are stupid enough to sleep out in the cold, but they respect each others places in the queue.[/i]

Those that don't will find a way

 

Oh come on, that's like saying pensioners without money who die of hypothermia (and that is a fair number every winter) will somehow get by then they don't, and die, and proves my point about some people being like Ayn Rand and 'selfishness is a virtue'. I'm pretty surprised at that remark QUOTE]

[paultvale]

Last Black Friday I bought the best selling 12 inch single ever....which was ironic.

[Tosh]

Last Black Friday I bought the best selling 12 inch single ever....which was ironic.

 

I've seen a ship in the harbour that I want...:)

[Valenick]

Does that include the unarmed 12-year-old black child murdered by police not that far from Ferguson this week as well ?

 

Im glad you enjoyed visiting the us and agree it is a wonderful country, with wonderful scenery, natural gifts, and some wonderful people. Unfortunately, the evil part of the population, small though it may be, kill them. Robert and John Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and many others. Anyone who stands up for their rights (Mayor Moscone, Harvey Milk, Malcolm X) is also murdered, and in the case of Moscone and Milk look what happened to the murderer - 5 years jail less remission on a defence of being mentally affected by junk food.

The events in Ferguson this last few weeks proved nothing has changed. I was amazed that Obama was not assassinated in the first few months after his first election win, but they are cleverer than that now, they just used him and blocked him.

To ja and anyone who thought I was against the entire country and its people - wrong. I feel great empathy with the suffering of the poor and black and Hispanic and other downtrodden peoples of the us. Every year they are in a worse position, and it is only because of the system of greed and corporate/military power there and the fact that the power and money are in the hands of so few.

Indeed, no other country hates sections of its own people since the Germans in the 1930s, as evidenced by Ronald Reagan who never mentioned the word AIDS until 1987 when something like 500,000 were infected and 50,000 dead, just in the US.The tens of millions of Africans of course, did not matter to him either. He would not allow any spending of note on education or research - contrast with the UK TV 'iceberg' ads (even under Thatcher) that are generally credited with saving thousands and thousands of lives.

Reagan also invaded countries, and should have been impeached for the Iran/Contra affair, and made sure hundreds of millions lived in poverty and servitude in south and central America and elsewhere under US backed military regimes where torture and murder were standard practice.

Read about Allende in Chile, the Tupamaros in Uruguay, how the Contras were supported to massacre people and burn schools, hospitals and plant bombs in public places. The current president of Brazil was tortured and imprisoned for many years by a US installed regime, hopefully she will stop this ever happening again, a wonderful brave woman.

Sadly, many decent US citizens will dismiss much of the above and probably either not believe it, or say it had to be done to fight communism, but nothing can excuse some of the terrible actions of those in power there.

 

There is little hope when they cannot see what is wrong with having 'a right to bear arms' that results in school massacres and the like every few weeks, it is almost like saying there should be a freedom to kill people.

 

That is just a small part of why I don't want my own county to be blighted any more than it is by the creatures that spread their so-called 'freedom' through the word and have to have war after war to maintain their profiteering arms industries.

 

Finally, I don't appreciate those who have left this country and gone to live in the US telling us what we should do and how to behave. Enjoy your wallow in the land of the free, but linking the US and UK anymore than is necessary is something a lot of us will not take kindly to. tone, for instance in a recent post, linked the fallen servicemen of the US and UK. I might just point out that the UK did not devastate Vietnam, Guatemala, Panama, Grenada, try to invade Cuba or have anything to do with these dark misadventures or many others and to make this link is grossly insulting to our own servicemen, some of whom fell to guns financed by the US collecting money for the IRA.

 

Wow you need take a chill pill every country is the same not just USA

[Bea Smith]

Wow you need take a chill pill every country is the same not just USA

 

1. That post is very old but still valid.

 

2. Every country is not the same, possibly one of the silliest and unthinking remarks I've read on here. Countries like Sweden, Switzerland, and many others don't invade others, and try to tell the rest of the world how to live.

 

Is the USA the same as China or Cuba, is it the same as Iran or North Korea ?

 

3. 'Take a chill pill' sounds like a saying from about 20 years ago from the sort of people who used to tell you to 'jog on' and think they were clever.

[Houston Valiant]

Bea , go and have a week of sex. It might do you good. Life will still go on.