Summer transfer rumours and speculation

[Badboybubba]

Bernie Slaven was one of mine # A Ledge

Tommy McClaren was one of mine (and still is)

[werstayinup]

5 minutes ago, Biddulph_PV said:

Wasn’t he on something ridiculous like £8k a week at Stockport??

Couldn't agree terms again so wouldn't surprise me at all,he dropped down to non league to join them so yes they must of paid well,he will probably end up in League 2 at what ever club will pay him the most money

[BarnsleyValiant]

That’s the Lee Gregory rumor put to bed! Signed for Mansfield! Cracking signing for them.

[valiant steve]

Mansfield get promoted to L1 and sign a decent striker. If only we'd done that, we might still be a L1 club. 

[valiant steve]

The better players get signed up reasonably early in the window. Hope we sign some decent ones reasonably early. 🤞

[Rockape99]

6 hours ago, Nippy Naylor said:

Harrat 👍

Can’t see that happening given his gambling issues and his animal cruelty issues , sadly for me he’s gone off the rails 

[Paul6754]

38 minutes ago, valiant steve said:

The better players get signed up reasonably early in the window. Hope we sign some decent ones reasonably early. 🤞

It's all about persuasion and money, Vale have to get on this train big time as the cub cant afford to have an unbalanced squad again next season else the trap door awaits.

The club have to sign two strikers capable of  scoring 10+ goals next season as goals have to be scored to win games and get 3 points.

The club needs a wealthy benefactor to help out the Shanahans', anyone got a spare few million? Where are you Mr Williams.....Not you Ray.

[Bald Eagle]

7 hours ago, valiant steve said:

Mansfield get promoted to L1 and sign a decent striker. If only we'd done that, we might still be a L1 club. 

Already had several options up top as well - maybe leave someone surplus to requirements who's worth taking? 

[BarnsleyValiant]

Wouldn’t it be a refreshing change  though to actually sign a quality player early in the window mainly a striker and beat other clubs to their signature. 
 

It would naturally build momentum with the club and fans, build a buzz for the new upcoming season and even maybe sell a few more season tickets.

UTV

[PVFC764]

11 minutes ago, BarnsleyValiant said:

Wouldn’t it be a refreshing change  though to actually sign a quality player early in the window mainly a striker and beat other clubs to their signature. 
 

It would naturally build momentum with the club and fans, build a buzz for the new upcoming season and even maybe sell a few more season tickets.

UTV

It would be good and as you say build momentum, but this is Vale and fans have learnt not to expect early signings and the recruitment team tend to shop at the 1p shop or don't bother recruiting positions the fans can see needs urgently recruiting.  🤣

A poster said DM and Co on holiday this week (hope they took their phones with them) - so hopefully we will see some action next week maybe.

[Raveninblack]

1 hour ago, Bald Eagle said:

Already had several options up top as well - maybe leave someone surplus to requirements who's worth taking? 

I 100% agree let ikpaezo go and get to the end of lofts and jones contracts and let them be released as they will bleed the vclub dry and teams like Mansfield, already promoted are buying players 

[JRC]

8 hours ago, valiant steve said:

Mansfield get promoted to L1 and sign a decent striker. If only we'd done that, we might still be a L1 club. 

Certainly if it wasn't for the January disaster we probably would have stayed up. Madden (35 duing next season) and Gregory (36 in August) have both been good and very good forwards in the latter's case. Whether they will still be good forwards next season is much more questionable.  Modern football forwards (and centrehalves) are much more involved in general play. Forwards quite often drop off a cliff in their early 30s in terms of goal output.

The Askey vain pursuit of Maynard did turn out to be a blessing. He scored 6 goals in his last 2 seasons of league football. As the pursuit dragged on I said the club should be shifting target to someone like Joe Ironside who was younger, probably cheaper, available but less technically accomplished. He scored 14 in each of the next 2 seasons. We probably should have looked at Ironside again last summer because he is at least a decent lower end league 2 striker, who would have scored more goals than the 3 we ended up with combined. Whether Mansfield and Chesterfield have recruited well won't be know until December.  In both cases there is ever chance they have signed players on large wages who have gone a season too far in their careers.

[JRC]

20 minutes ago, Raveninblack said:

I 100% agree let ikpaezo go and get to the end of lofts and jones contracts and let them be released as they will bleed the vclub dry and teams like Mansfield, already promoted are buying players 

We can't release any player from a fixed term contract. Loft and Jones either stay, we pay them up out of the playing budget, or the owners pay them out of their own pocket. I guess fans could have a whip around but I doubt that would raise 75k for Jones or 150k for Loft. I suspect we will end up subsidising moves elsewhere, although that will reduce finances for replacements. We may end up keeping both. If a club only offers Loft 50k, we have to pay 100k we are unlikely to get a reasonable league 2 striker with the remaing 50k we save.

[valeparklife]

10 minutes ago, JRC said:

Certainly if it wasn't for the January disaster we probably would have stayed up. Madden (35 duing next season) and Gregory (36 in August) have both been good and very good forwards in the latter's case. Whether they will still be good forwards next season is much more questionable.  Modern football forwards (and centrehalves) are much more involved in general play. Forwards quite often drop off a cliff in their early 30s in terms of goal output.

The Askey vain pursuit of Maynard did turn out to be a blessing. He scored 6 goals in his last 2 seasons of league football. As the pursuit dragged on I said the club should be shifting target to someone like Joe Ironside who was younger, probably cheaper, available but less technically accomplished. He scored 14 in each of the next 2 seasons. We probably should have looked at Ironside again last summer because he is at least a decent lower end league 2 striker, who would have scored more goals than the 3 we ended up with combined. Whether Mansfield and Chesterfield have recruited well won't be know until December.  In both cases there is ever chance they have signed players on large wages who have gone a season too far in their careers.

Vale fans have this bizarre obsession for a "proven goalscorer". But as you say, Maynard was a "proven goalscorer" and scored 6 goals in the last two years.

Dom Telford was another "proven goalscorer" and scored 4 goals last season.

Yet players like Danilo Orsi have gone from 5 league goals in two years, to scoring 19 this season! Same for Will Evans, 2 league goals last season, 21 goals this season.

I think the sweet spot is signing someone that's scored a modest amount (8-12 goals) but where we think they will suit our style of play and kick on again. We don't need to gamble the budget on a "proven goalscorer"!

[valiant_593]

1 hour ago, JRC said:

Certainly if it wasn't for the January disaster we probably would have stayed up. Madden (35 duing next season) and Gregory (36 in August) have both been good and very good forwards in the latter's case. Whether they will still be good forwards next season is much more questionable.  Modern football forwards (and centrehalves) are much more involved in general play. Forwards quite often drop off a cliff in their early 30s in terms of goal output.

The Askey vain pursuit of Maynard did turn out to be a blessing. He scored 6 goals in his last 2 seasons of league football. As the pursuit dragged on I said the club should be shifting target to someone like Joe Ironside who was younger, probably cheaper, available but less technically accomplished. He scored 14 in each of the next 2 seasons. We probably should have looked at Ironside again last summer because he is at least a decent lower end league 2 striker, who would have scored more goals than the 3 we ended up with combined. Whether Mansfield and Chesterfield have recruited well won't be know until December.  In both cases there is ever chance they have signed players on large wages who have gone a season too far in their careers.

One thing for sure is that those signings will have got the fans excited. Meanwhile we have Uche who is probably on similar wages to those two. Agree re Ironside