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3 minutes ago, Biddulph_PV said:

Why?? I think that in itself is a stupid comment. It sets the tone. If you can’t see that then you are the moron.

Do you think he would have given some other “tone setting” messages to the players during the week? Before the game? In his team talk?

Watch the Man City documentary “all or nothing”… Pep makes it clear to his players that they shouldn’t focus on what he says to the press, it’s what he says to them that matters.

Honestly mate, stop digging… you have made a silly comment after an emotional game which lacks some serious context.

As I say, it’s a matter of opinions, but if you stop and think about it in the cold light of day you will be able to realise how crazy it sounds.

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2 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

It a matter of opinion I guess.

Yours is that the “writing was on the wall” from the moment DC made a throw away comment in the press without knowing anything of what was said behind closed doors.

Mine is that that is stupid.

The reason I said the “writing was on the wall” is because to me it’s almost an admission that the team wasn’t ready and it’s getting the excuses in early, that’s the concern. I HATE harping on to the past, but can you imagine Micky Adams coming out with something like that? Or even Askey?

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2 minutes ago, Biddulph_PV said:

The reason I said the “writing was on the wall” is because to me it’s almost an admission that the team wasn’t ready and it’s getting the excuses in early, that’s the concern. I HATE harping on to the past, but can you imagine Micky Adams coming out with something like that? Or even Askey?

How come he didn't use the excuse after the game in his post match interview if he was getting in early for these purposes

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9 minutes ago, Biddulph_PV said:

The reason I said the “writing was on the wall” is because to me it’s almost an admission that the team wasn’t ready and it’s getting the excuses in early, that’s the concern. I HATE harping on to the past, but can you imagine Micky Adams coming out with something like that? Or even Askey?

Leave it there mate. 

I think you are overthinking a comment by a considerable distance.

The team talk next week will be delivered directly to the players… they won’t just get shown a video of an interview with Baggers.

Try and be positive… please. The club needs it after years of being a disaster zone.

 

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Right? So after 1 game you've apparently decided that Wilson isn't going to score? Or you've forgotten just how many games Theo needed to score the limited goals that he did? You also realise that Wilson scored a lot more league goals than Theo last season?

Have you actually seen the Wilson chance? Ball was played at speed behind him when he was moving forward. He actually did well to get hold of it in the first place


No I havent decided Wilson isnt going to score at all. What an odd thing to say.

Yes I went the game and saw it live. I thought he should score.
I have seen it since on sky sports numerous times and still think he should score.

But he didnt. Does that mean I think he wont score ever? No. Dont be silly.

Does saying any old idiot pissed up in the away end could of scored mean that I dont think Wilson will score again? No. Dont be silly.

I just think he should of scored that chance.

He didnt. Ok. Is what it is.

I think you might think I rate Theo. Let's have it right, I absolutely ditest that dosser. I never wanted him back after his first spell and never want to see him in a vale shirt again. Absolute disgrace.

But to play devils advocate, yes Wilson scored more than Theo last year (hardly a achievement) but he is really going to have to get his finger out to score the goals we need to be top 7. Its expecting something hes never done before. We would need 20 from him, has he ever got 10? Hopefully playing a central role will benefit him.

I liked the look of proctor when he came on. For Sunderland I'd probably go with a front 3 of Rodney, Proctor and Worral and have Wilson as a option from the bench.

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1 minute ago, Walter said:


 

 


No I havent decided Wilson isnt going to score at all. What an odd thing to say.

Yes I went the game and saw it live. I thought he should score.
I have seen it since on sky sports numerous times and still think he should score.

But he didnt. Does that mean I think he wont score ever? No. Dont be silly.

Does saying any old idiot pissed up in the away end could of scored mean that I dont think Wilson will score again? No. Dont be silly.

I just think he should of scored that chance.

He didnt. Ok. Is what it is.

I think you might think I rate Theo. Let's have it right, I absolutely ditest that dosser. I never wanted him back after his first spell and never want to see him in a vale shirt again. Absolute disgrace.

But to play devils advocate, yes Wilson scored more than Theo last year (hardly a achievement) but he is really going to have to get his finger out to score the goals we need to be top 7. Its expecting something hes never done before. We would need 20 from him, has he ever got 10? Hopefully playing a central role will benefit him.

I liked the look of proctor when he came on. For Sunderland I'd probably go with a front 3 of Rodney, Proctor and Worral and have Wilson as a option from the bench.

 

Every striker misses chances to go this deep off one missed chance is a bit silly

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16 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

Leave it there mate. 

I think you are overthinking a comment by a considerable distance.

The team talk next week will be delivered directly to the players… they won’t just get shown a video of an interview with Baggers.

Try and be positive… please. The club needs it after years of being a disaster zone.

 

Nobody wants to see Vale do well more than me. But I’ll see it how I say it. I think DC is a bit arrogant and I’m on fence so far. I think he got it wrong yesterday, the seeds of which were set by his unnecessary comments. Equally I don’t really understand why, if his comments are true, that people should just accept that we are going to be toss for over a fifth of the season. Better to start strong and build momentum, surely?? Thankfully I’m glad that it’ll be mid-September before I get to watch any of it due to various commitments, at which point we’ll no doubt be roaring away. We’ll see.

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1 hour ago, Rory said:
2 hours ago, valeparklife said:
Just seen the sending off myself.
Why was it a red?
He wasn't the last man.
Are the rules different for a keeper fouling outside the area?
Bit mystified.
 

Because the lad would have just waltzed towards the goal and kicked it in an empty net.

Just watched it again. Yeah fair enough it's probably correct when I freeze framed it. In real time it looked a bit dubious.

I can't stand the whole "playing out from the back" fashion that is blighting football now. All it does is gift chances to the opposition. 

Swansea did it vs Blackburn yesterday too and gave a penalty away. It's just madness.

Just because it works for Man City who can spend billions on a GK and defence, doesn't mean that everyone should copy it with inferior players.

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Just now, valeparklife said:

Just watched it again. Yeah fair enough it's probably correct when I freeze framed it. In real time it looked a bit dubious.

I can't stand the whole "playing out from the back" fashion that is blighting football now. All it does is gift chances to the opposition. 

Swansea did it vs Blackburn yesterday too and gave a penalty away. It's just madness.

Just because it works for Man City who can spend billions on a GK and defence, doesn't mean that everyone should copy it with inferior players.

Blame Guardiola.

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Just seen the highlights. Radio made Covolans sending off seem a lot worse than it was. Their guy knew exactly what he wanted to do. Think Covolan pulled at a loose thread on his shirt didn't he, and he went down as though Mr T had given him a roundhouse to the back. Covolan will learn from that.
I've said the same look at it in slow motion and I don't think he's even touched him.

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Load of crap about the matrix, sacked by September, taking Carol for a ride.
They were clearly sat on it and were just waiting for the opportune moment to start moaning. Saved for another day if that Wilson spoon had gone in. Weird mentality. 
Again, this is 22 minutes into a season.
He isn't going anywhere

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Thought myself he clipped him and it was a sending off but shocking from Northampton players right up against the ref calling for the red card, just let refs get on with the game, he might well have given the red card but their players definitely made sure it was happening.

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39 minutes ago, dishydave said:

I've said the same look at it in slow motion and I don't think he's even touched him.
 

It’s his own fault. He shouldn’t be there, he should have cleared the ball when he had the chance. The keeper should not be involved in challenges like that. Your just asking for the referee to make a decision. For me it’s stupid, he clips him and it’s a red. 

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36 minutes ago, valefan79 said:

Thought myself he clipped him and it was a sending off but shocking from Northampton players right up against the ref calling for the red card, just let refs get on with the game, he might well have given the red card but their players definitely made sure it was happening.

It happens every week. Don't give the opposition any chance of calling for a red then it won't happen.

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