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43 minutes ago, Santa said:

They've just had a Crewe fan on the radio who is angry because he thinks they should have been given the league title. Baffling.

Weird bunch.

Their squad is getting absolutely ransacked this summer. Best of luck to them.

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BBC reporting that all elite football is suspended. So Stoke are playing then.

So all football suspended, so for a change I started talking to the wife and found out that she got made redundant from Woolworths.

Going up this season is a strange one. Despite promotion, you've got to cut costs, lost players, and have no real celebration. Maybe a brief 'get in' but by tomorrow it'll all seem meaningless ag

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2 hours ago, robf said:

I agree entirely. Every argument for restarting involves a load of "if"s but even if it were possible to do all these things, who's to say clubs won't then say that, for example, playing in front of closed gates is a disadvantage etc. There's no way everyone is going to be happy for some sort of artificial round of matches to be added to the season.

Surely the number one most important thing is to keep people safe - it is only one season in sport after all - I can't see how cancelling the season now isn't anything other than a sensible and practical way to proceed. After the National League and League 2 have done so, I suspect it could very well be the case in League 1 too before very long.

Genuine question, Rob: if we have another serious outbreak after starting the 20-21 season and have to close that down, how will anyone have any faith again in the integrity of the season?  I agree completely that the number one priority is to keep people safe from this wretched disease so closing the season until we can restart is no problem for me. However, number one priority must be to finish the current season even if we do so starting in the next footballing year and then find ways to reduce the number of games.

And the worst aspect for me is having a PPG remedy that is unweighted to allow, for example, for home and away. So many clubs are going to feel discriminated against by a simple PPG formula I would be surprised if it isn't challenged in the courts. Perhaps not in L2 (though Exeter may be thinking about it) but it would only take some of the bigger and better to join together in a joint legal challenge.

I think today's decision is understandable but will prove to be a serious mistake.

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Some stats:

- Tom Pope has tied Wilf Kirkham for most club top-scorer awards with six (Pope - 2012–13, 2013–14, 2014–15, 2017–18, 2018–19, 2019–20; Kirkham - 1924–25, 1925–26, 1926–27, 1927–28, 1928–29, 1929–30, 1932–33)

- Despite playing 9 fewer league games we've better our win, draws and goal scored tally for each of the previous three seasons.

- Least league defeats since 1969–70 (albeit with 9 fewer games)

- Lowest goals conceded tally since 1992–93 (again with the big caveat of playing 9 fewer games)

- Best League Two finish since the 2012–13 promotion season

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Port_Vale_F.C._seasons

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Carol just on Radio 5 with Jermaine Jenas.

Vale and Bradford given big praise for voting for the good of the game rather than self interest. 

Carol said she was shaking when she came out and then had to ring JA to tell him but quite rightly stands by her decision. 

Radio 5 were glowing in their praise of our club .

Contrast league one where the meeting was described as a bun fight.

Very disappointed but there's a bigger picture in reality. People are dying out there and it all has to be put in perspective. 

Think the first game back with crowds at Vale park will be a joyous and emotional occasion .

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Absolutely gutted for me the management,players and the staff after they put a tremendous effort in this season. I really thought we would get in to the play offs and fancied our chances against anyone.

Well done Carol and the club for making a tough decision but ultimately the right one for the future of football. 

Look forward to next season whenever that will be. Season ticket at the ready.

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45 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

Carol just on Radio 5 with Jermaine Jenas.

Vale and Bradford given big praise for voting for the good of the game rather than self interest. 

Carol said she was shaking when she came out and then had to ring JA to tell him but quite rightly stands by her decision. 

Radio 5 were glowing in their praise of our club .

Contrast league one where the meeting was described as a bun fight.

Very disappointed but there's a bigger picture in reality. People are dying out there and it all has to be put in perspective. 

Think the first game back with crowds at Vale park will be a joyous and emotional occasion .

 

 

 

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Definitely the right decision to end the season for me. The only puzzling thing is why bother with the play offs?

Surely if its not safe to play the remaining matches then the same logic should apply to any play offs.

By all means promote 4 but use PPG and promote Cheltenham

I think Carol has rightly come out of this with a lot of credit and if we do ever get to start the 20/21 season then I can't wait to get up there to give the boys my wholehearted support

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Whilst we may have made all the right noises about wanting to finish it on the pitch I personally think there was also the element of us having to protect the  club financially when it came down to it in the end. Rightly so as well. 

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Absolutely gutted that the season has had to end meaning we narrowly miss out on the play-offs. However, I fully support and agree with the decision. It seems to be the only ‘fair’ way to deal with the situation we are in. For those moaning about the way it has finished, would you be moaning if we were in Crewe’s shoes? I don’t think you would. 
Missing out by a point is honestly heartbreaking. I said throughout the season, conceding late needless equalisers would bite us in the bum, and it has. Mansfield, Salford, Orient and Scunthorpe were all games we should have seen out and secured three points. Unfortunately, it wasn’t meant to be. 
However, it has been a fantastic season and I’m very proud of the boys. Any improvement on the last three would have been great, but to finish 8th and be disappointed like we are is honestly something to be proud of. Askey, the back room staff and the players should be very proud of what they’ve achieved in a short amount of time. 
The biggest thanks should go to the Shanahan’s, they have transformed our football club. The work they have done in the club and the community is truly remarkable. I will be forever thankful. Goodness knows what kind of position we would be in if Norman was still here. 
Don’t be too down Valiants, our future is bright and once all this is over, we can continue heading in the right direction. 

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Can someone please explain why the EFL have said it would be unfair to relegate Stevenage as there is 9 games left, but it's fair to just promote Teams.
You cannot have 1 law for the top and a totally different law for the bottom.
Disgusting attitude towards the National League.
As for Vale, I love Carols attitude, however what hurts is the fact the play offs are still being played.
I along with quite a few other fans could accept the top 4 going up as it is, but to continue with the play offs, seems a kick in the balls.
And why is it ok for L1 to think about extending there play offs down to 8th position instead of the normal 6th in L1Screenshot_20200515-203326_Twitter.jpeg

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13 minutes ago, butt lane vale fan said:

Can someone please explain why the EFL have said it would be unfair to relegate Stevenage as there is 9 games left, but it's fair to just promote Teams.
You cannot have 1 law for the top and a totally different law for the bottom.
Disgusting attitude towards the National League.
As for Vale, I love Carols attitude, however what hurts is the fact the play offs are still being played.
I along with quite a few other fans could accept the top 4 going up as it is, but to continue with the play offs, seems a kick in the balls.
And why is it ok for L1 to think about extending there play offs down to 8th position instead of the normal 6th in L1Screenshot_20200515-203326_Twitter.jpeg

Exactly. I am with Carol on her statement. But why can't league two be submitted down to 8th for the play offs too. Stevenage should go down I spent 10 months living down there last year they all agree too. 

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To be honest, while a tough decision, I suspect the league could’ve just extended the play off spots by 2 places... then played that out at a point in the future.

But as some have said, could they really complete these games given what is going on, unless we get CVID cases and deaths down massively I can’t see it happening until end July earliest

Do miss the buzz of the VALE

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I respect Carols morals and stance but i really think we should of voted to carry on. Someones obviously gonna get promoted, why not us. Feels like we've given it all away and the season might as well of not happened. Very strange times indeed.

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I think the decision is a mistake for various reasons.

Covid may be here for a long long time. The future of football (and life in general) may be different for some time, not just this season. This was an opportunity to see how football could be structured in a way that was safe for all, both players and supporters. To demonstrate we had an immediate future.

Why prioritise next season over this and the decision to promote but not relegate is one I am struggling to get my head around.

It appears that the other leagues are anticipating returning so why are we differentiating ourselves from the bigger leagues where arguable they have greater challenges as bigger clubs have more staff to keep safe.

I have no idea how to run a football club and how the current challenges are affecting each club. Therefore I have to respect the decision made by those in charge but it doesn't stop the disappointment and the questions.

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If clubs start to play again they would be classed as working therefore the clubs would have to foot the wage bill.A lot of football staff are now furloughed.That would be lost.I personally think it should have been declared null and void .No promotion no relegation.It could be asked if 4 teams can play ,why not the rest?Are Cheltenham,Exeter,Northampton and Colchester safe zones .Looking at today’s Bundesliga restart,farce springs to mind.

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5 minutes ago, Howjy04 said:

If clubs start to play again they would be classed as working therefore the clubs would have to foot the wage bill.A lot of football staff are now furloughed.That would be lost.I personally think it should have been declared null and void .No promotion no relegation.It could be asked if 4 teams can play ,why not the rest?Are Cheltenham,Exeter,Northampton and Colchester safe zones .Looking at today’s Bundesliga restart,farce springs to mind.

This is a first... I agree.  

Bill Shankly was wrong.

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