norm on radio stoke

[mr.hobblesworth]

I think Norman's stated that he's actually (voluntarily) trying to get the length of the covenant (or something) extended. Again, more lies bandied about in an attempt to ****-stir.

[JOHNNYAITCH]

HMRC are entitled to a full set of accounts and computations.

 

So they get them but public isn't allowed to see them...or they are not made available to the public

 

Sorry to go on

[JOHNNYAITCH]

 

He will now sell the club and own the ground. If he offers a to let at 500k a year rent who would take that on you would have to turnover 4 million to even break even

 

What will he do if we refuse to pay or can't pay? Aren't there covenants on the stadium that it can only be used for football (I could be very wrong on that)? We could always temporarily play somewhere else whilst he sits on a white elephant that is earning him nothing.

[Hagrid]

If this had happened at any other club there would be anarchy.

 

I'm staggered by the number of fans who can't see any wrong in Smurf.

[Howjy04]

If this had happened at any other club there would be anarchy.

 

I'm staggered by the number of fans who can't see any wrong in Smurf.

 

I think it's not being shown the proven facts that people find wrong also, H.Patience is a virtue.

[Howjy04]

So they get them but public isn't allowed to see them...or they are not made available to the public

 

Sorry to go on

 

I think only abbreviated accounts need be made available to the public.The Revenue need the full monty for obvious reasons.It has something to do with turnover ,which in Vale's case is not a lot.

 

 

 

 

Nick is probably better explaining.

[Howjy04]

What constitutes a "small company", Nick? The football club accounts were of the limited nature you mention here but under V2001 full detailed accounts were always produced. Is there a specific cut off point on turnover or something?

 

Yes ,and there were a lot more shareholders under V 2001.I think it's about 6 million Jean.

[fairportnick]

Yes ,and there were a lot more shareholders under V 2001.I think it's about 6 million Jean.

 

Its also based on balance sheet total and number of employees. Having the ground in the balance sheet at an inflated valuation caused the problem and meant they had to have an audit which costs more.

[Jacko51]

You could decide not to buy the product, or complain if it did not do its job and ask for a refund, but you are still not entitled to ask questions about their accounts.

 

I thought we were entitled to ask questions but not entitled to any answers?

[Timothius]

So they are used to run the club then? Quite the opposite of what Tim said

exactly what i said if you care to read my comments where i said they fund the youth setup. You see what you want to see or are getting my comments mixed up with Spunk Trumpets

[geosname]

You can't just go round, posting facts! There'll be no room for all the half-truths, rumours and lies that some people need to forward their agendas...

 

Its a fact he posted although the content may not be factual.

Why do people who dont follow have to have an agenda?... could it simply be an opinion?

[Timothius]

You can't just go round, posting facts! There'll be no room for all the half-truths, rumours and lies that some people need to forward their agendas...

there you go again , what exacyly are these mythical agendas you think people have?

[Vital Spark]

Surely, the Port Vale brand belongs to the club and hence any new owners, so what exactly is Norman going to sell in HIS shop?

 

If the shop money is going to him, is he really stupid enough to think people will buy anything in the future?

 

I don't suppose we'll ever find out what's really going on and don't expect any truthful answers from his forum.

 

Quite frankly I don't believe a word that comes from his lips.

 

This comment carries some weight to the rumour that NS will be in partnership with Synetics, because the owners of the football club will be the only ones who can sell licensed merchandise. If the new owners refuse NS to sell official gear, then his shop is surely rendered useless.

 

This sale to 'new' owners is a smoke screen.

[geosname]

Perhaps he could sell branded stuff on license, if the shop/retail company is separate... is the commercial side in with the shop? catering? advertising?

[nowag]

As the club shop has been under discussion here, perhaps you should remember what your 'lovable old rogue' biscuit-tin Bell did involving the club shop about the time he left. Not quite as bad as Deakin and Miller, but only because it suited him to have Rudge earn him over £10 million in transfer fees and give less than £3 million back to JR to spend.

 

Not to mention sacking the best manager we ever had , then having to pay crippling compensation, threatening tioclose the club down when fans moaned a bit, and building an totally inappropriate eyesore hat has stood unfinished for decades and started the decline of the club.

 

Some people have very short and selective memeories.

 

Yes, bringing in the best manager that got us to Wembley twice, yes, selling the best player when the manager was out of the country, got the Hamill rd stand for next to nothing, I do have a good memory, yes, a loveable old rogue, And yes, I did have issues with him, but to put him in the same class as the one's since!!!.....***.