19 minutes ago, ValiantHan said:

Tom Cleverley said at the fans forum Lorent didn't have a release clause at Plymouth nothing was mentioned about us having a sell on clause but I think we will definitely have one given that Plymouth didn't actually pay us the full £1.2m as they are paying it installments instead (rumours were also going round a few months ago that they actually missed a payment but whether that was true or not I don't actually know). I think the deal was that Plymouth couldn't pay the full fee straight away so we allowed them to pay it in installments as long as we had a sell-on clause deal in place. A bit like what Micky Adams did when Jordan Hugill left us to join Preston. 

Normal to pay in instalments over the period of the contract, max 3 years so why a clause? 

17 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

Ray, we have as much chance of getting Freddie Woodman as I have of winning Miss World. I keep looking at Matt Rush at Boreham Wood, scoring loads in the National League bit like Tolaj. 

Never give up Jean,there is still time 🙂 

Back to the footy though,like you say i would like us to take a Tolaj type gamble again and look at Rush or Ormerod

3 hours ago, TJHValiant said:

I agree with some points, the jury is still out on his ability to sign good players certainly. Many people defend him saying “well it’s all who would join” but for our situation, paying no players and sticking with what we have is better than buying and wasting money on poor players until the good ones appear. That’s what I would be telling fans. It’s also what a shrewd manager would do. 
 

The sad reality is the likes of Gray, Hernandez, Magliore, Sherif have all contributed next to nothing and that’s good money wasted, although you can perhaps make a slight case for Gray despite his lack of goals. I think he has shown some good leadership skills when he has come on and still shown signs of driving a team forward when needed. 
 

A good manager can galvanize a team and although I think there may have been wider reasons, the fact Curtis, Johnson and Cole walked out has to say something, as they are all experienced players who will know what a good manager is. 

Curtis had agreed to leave long before Brady came. Cole was actually a waste of space and had wanted out long before Brady came. Check out how many starts/goals he has at Luton. Johnson made 4 league starts for us and as far as I can see, is no longer playing league football. 

54 minutes ago, werstayinup said:

Never give up Jean,there is still time 🙂 

 

If I lose 3 stone and grow 10 inches you may be right!!

You will still be too slow.

 

1 hour ago, rayzer said:

You will still be too slow.

 

Loving that rayzer-sharp wit.

So far this season the stats of the two non league strikers who have been mentioned on here are

Matt Rush who is 25 and is at Boreham Wood,he has 25 goals and 3 assists in 44 games

Danny Ormerod is 19 and is at Fylde,he has 27 goals and 6 assists in 39 games

Not sure of eithers contract situation

6 minutes ago, werstayinup said:

So far this season the stats of the two non league strikers who have been mentioned on here are

Matt Rush who is 25 and is at Boreham Wood,he has 25 goals and 3 assists in 44 games

Danny Ormerod is 19 and is at Fylde,he has 27 goals and 6 assists in 39 games

Not sure of eithers contract situation

Ormerod is OOC at the end of June.

Rush was only signed last season so depends if he signed a 2 or 3 year deal.

Why did we sign Hernandez and  Andre Gray?

On 13/04/2026 at 19:40, NW9Valiant said:

From the articles (thanks @robf)

On loan until the end of the season

• Dejaune Brown
• Ethon Archer
• Joe Gauci
• Eli Campbell
• Martin Sherif

Out of contract in the summer of 2026

• Mitch Clark
• Ben Heneghan
• Connor Hall
• Ben Garrity
• Jayden Stockley
• Ben Amos
• Funso Ojo
• Ryan Croasdale
• Jesse Debrah*
• Ben Lomax
• Tyler Magloire
• Grant Ward
• Andre Gray
• Onel Hernandez

Out of contract in the summer of 2027

• Marko Maroši
• Jaheim Headley
• Jordan Gabriel
• George Byers
• Rico Richards
• Liam Gordon
• Ruari Paton
• Ben Waine
• Kyle John (option of a third year)
• Cameron Humphreys
• Jordan Shipley

Out of contract in the summer of 2028

• Rhys Walters
• Jack Shorrock
• George Hall

*no exact expiration date given so this is a presumed contract expiry date

On loan until the end of the season

Dejaune Brown
Ethon Archer
Joe Gauci
Eli Campbell
Martin Sherif

All crap, don't resign anyone unless we can get archer cheap. 

Out of contract in the summer

Mitch Clark - release
Ben Heneghan- release
Connor Hall - release 
Ben Garrity - 1 year deal on reduced money 
Jayden Stockley - release
Ben Amos- release
Funso Ojo - 1 year deal on reduced money 
Ryan Croasdale - 1 year deal
Jesse Debrah - release
Ben Lomax - release
Tyler Magloire - release
Grant Ward - release
Andre Gray - release
Onel Hernandez - release

Out of contract in the summer of 2027

Marko Maroši - 3rd choice if we can't move him
Jaheim Headley - keep as back up, no one's going to want to buy him but pointless paying him off - ok bench option in L2
Jordan Gabriel - keep
George Byers - keep, unless a decent bid comes in. 
Rico Richards - get rid, very little chance he plays for us again 
Liam Gordon - keep
Ruari Paton - hope St Johnstone want to take him permanent 
Ben Waine - no team with a brain will want to buy him so worst case he's an ok bench option, best case he does a Tolaj 
Kyle John - keep
Cameron Humphreys - keep 
Jordan Shipley - national league north loan 

Out of contract in the summer of 2028
Rhys Walters - keep
Jack Shorrock -keep
George Hall - keep

Edited April 14Apr 14 by Walka003

No player will sign a one year contract unless old. Another club will offer 2 years

Just now, Essex Boy said:

No player will sign a one year contract unless old. Another club will offer 2 years

Good, wouldn't be bothered if any of the ones I've put one year deal next too left. Croasdale only good in L2, Ojo old, Garrity injured. None of them have earned anything other than a 1 year, maybe with an option. 

I would take a chance on Garrity. Croasdale is 50:50. The rest of the out of contract players can go in my opinion

12 hours ago, WV said:

Do we have a sell on clause?

I read, admittedly on Facebook,  but an argyle fan was quoting the chairman as saying there were no clauses in LT's contact.  No release clause and no sell on clause. 

Actually this ,unfortunately,  makes sense.  We did have a Release clause.  Plymouth trigger that, reach a deal with him, he says yes, I'm going.  Why would they give us a sell on clause?  There was nothing we could do to stop the transfer, they didn't need a sweetener for us.  Harsh reality sadly

8 hours ago, Loggerheads Sage said:

I read, admittedly on Facebook,  but an argyle fan was quoting the chairman as saying there were no clauses in LT's contact.  No release clause and no sell on clause. 

Actually this ,unfortunately,  makes sense.  We did have a Release clause.  Plymouth trigger that, reach a deal with him, he says yes, I'm going.  Why would they give us a sell on clause?  There was nothing we could do to stop the transfer, they didn't need a sweetener for us.  Harsh reality sadly

Matt Hancock alluded to there being a sell on clause as Plymouth wanted to pay in instalments which, clause met or not, we do not have to do, and that gave us at least a reasonable amount of bargaining power with regards to add ons.