Players I never want to see in a Vale shirt again

[OtterVale]

For I would keep the keep kids, Ripley, bring Cass back to play holding mid l, ikpeazu as he is a handful, Chiss, Garrity, all the rest can go but I do realise some may do I good job in league two but the main thing is to player the players in their best position.

[Killersrevenge44]

Player of the season contest is Ripley or Chislett or Garrity. 

Maybe Smith gets nomination for worst player? 

[Powerline]

How anyone could say smith is worst player of the season is a joke. He was crap when being played on the right of the back 3 by Crosby. At the time numerous fans said he couldn’t play there, why Crosby didn’t see this I don’t know. 

Wouldn’t make sense to get rid of smith imo. We have far greater problems. Maybe focus on getting rid of and replacing the yak, Jones, Debrah and Lowe first.

[janabbotts]

Chislet for me, followed by Ben

[PVFC764]

17 hours ago, PV1993 said:

 

My personal opinion: we cannot just get rid of everyone, it doesn’t work like that. We’d have no money left to sign anyone decent by paying up. So got to be careful and think about who can do a job in L2.

don't forget, we were poor when we played Mansfield, who were unbeaten at the time and have stormed L2, and we played them off the park. There is a gulf between L2 and top half of L1. Our squad wasn’t good enough for L2 but I am confident that there are players there that have done or will do a job at a lower level.

All loan players go back (obviously). Don’t sign any - not been good enough.

 

Under contract players to keep:

Connor Ripley - two L1 relegations but stood out in both of those campaigns. Would easily be good enough for a promotion chasing L2 side

Nathan Smith - We know what he can do at L2 level. I do this we need a commanding Leon Legge type defender alongside him though. He’s not a leader to me.

Mitch Clark - been really unlucky this season. Get him back and he’ll be a good player for us

Ben Garrity - nothing more to be said. Got to build the squad around him. Make him captain for me. Just hope he doesn’t force a move or someone else comes in for him. At least we’d get some money though.

Ethan Chislet - copy and paste Garrity (bar the captaincy bit).

Funso Ojo - lost his way a bit but a more than good enough player - should run the show in L2 (look at the Mansfield game, they were top and unbeaten when we played them and we made them look average).

James Plant - we’re ruining him a bit by playing him more defensively. When he first broke through he was fantastic further forward. Let’s get him further up the pitch.

Shorrock/Lomax - loan them out

Baylee Dipepa - proved himself enough for a part to play in L2.

Jesse Debrah - I do like him. He’s young and has pace which none of our other defenders have. We can improve him, I just think NL to L1 was a step too far, so L2 should be good for him.

 

Under contract players to release/undecided

Dan Jones - we already know he is good enough for L2 having been promoted with us before, but he is too injury prone. Could go either way. With his fitness though, I don’t think he would want to end his contract, so might be stuck with him anyway

Tom Sang - trouble with Sang is, he’s becoming a bit of a jack of all trades. He’s not good enough defensively to be a full back or wing back, at least he wasn’t in L1. But he’s still young enough to develop and I’d like to see him in CM.

Ryan Loft - sorry, but a bit of work rate just isn’t enough. Although his strike rate in L2 does work out at one in four. I don’t know what his contract is like but if he’s a higher earner he needs to go. If not, he might be good in the squad.

Connor Grant - same as Sang. I’d love to see him in the middle, he is a tidy footballer. Not defensively good enough or quick enough out wide though.

Alex Iacovitti - sometimes he’s brilliant and sometimes he’s dire. I don’t think we can keep all the centre halves as we need to get at least one better commanding one in. He’d probably be there one of look to move on.

 

Out of contract players

Maybe keep Leutwiler as he can’t be on much and is a solid back up, but honestly I’d rather see a younger lad come in and learn.

Give that Wynne a game next week just to see what he’s about.

Keep the academy prospects if they’re good enough or want to stay.

Release the rest.

 

Even if all the under contracted players stayed, that gives us a squad of 16. If we add 9 quality additions of top of that, we’d probably be alright.

Aim to get a left wing back, and then an experienced CB (big commanding leader), CM (like Ryan woods at Exeter) and ST (Cameron Jerome?), and hope we can find some more young talent like Ollie and Alfie. Couple more strikers I think we’ll have a good squad for L2

Can see where you went with this and agree mostly.  Offer Leutwiler a further contract as he hasn't had the chance to break into the normal side due to Ripers being fit.  Games he played looked sound and capable player.

However, feel Garrity, Chisslet will be picked up by some Div 1  club - If this happens and the club doesn't try to keep them - just shows how much Carol and Co want to get out of Div 2. 

Ojo - Does he want to be here now.  Smith - Became a liability as Captain (is being Captain affecting his playing ability).

See what the season brings - but if any of the contracted players you listed are still here we will be in another relegation battle.  They are full of silly mistakes, not able to track players and not worthy to wear the Vale shirt.

[darren1810]

3 hours ago, Powerline said:

How anyone could say smith is worst player of the season is a joke. He was crap when being played on the right of the back 3 by Crosby. At the time numerous fans said he couldn’t play there, why Crosby didn’t see this I don’t know. 

Wouldn’t make sense to get rid of smith imo. We have far greater problems. Maybe focus on getting rid of and replacing the yak, Jones, Debrah and Lowe first.

Some of Debrah defending yesterday was beyond a joke. Looks like he's won a raffle to play. 

Smith has been poor 100%. But he's nowhere near our worst culprit at the back. 

[darren1810]

3 hours ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

Player of the season contest is Ripley or Chislett or Garrity. 

Maybe Smith gets nomination for worst player? 

No chance Smith. 

Huge list ahead of him.

Jones, Debrah, Massey, Loft, Grant and Lowe . That's without even racking my brain properly. 

[JohnDoe]

3 hours ago, OtterVale said:

For I would keep the keep kids, Ripley, bring Cass back to play holding mid l, ikpeazu as he is a handful, Chiss, Garrity, all the rest can go but I do realise some may do I good job in league two but the main thing is to player the players in their best position.

THere is no scenario where uche should stay. Not only a horrific striker who never scores (being better than lot isnt the bar we should be using), but he cant play 90 minutes.While it’s rumoured he is our highest, or one of, earners. One of the first out of the door.  

[geoff1]

3 hours ago, OtterVale said:

For I would keep the keep kids, Ripley, bring Cass back to play holding mid l, ikpeazu as he is a handful, Chiss, Garrity, all the rest can go but I do realise some may do I good job in league two but the main thing is to player the players in their best position.

why would cass want to come back???????????? 😉

[geoff1]

8 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

No chance Smith. 

Huge list ahead of him.

Jones, Debrah, Mjames plant assey, Loft, Grant and Lowe . That's without even racking my brain properly. 

james plant matey!😃

[valiant_593]

3 hours ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

Player of the season contest is Ripley or Chislett or Garrity. 

Maybe Smith gets nomination for worst player? 

Loft, Massey, Lowe, Grant and Jones fighting for that imo 

 

Edit: Deborah as well. He’s been at fault for some huge goals, that Fleetwood one springs to mind 

Edited April 21 by valiant_593

[Guppys left peg]

3 minutes ago, JohnDoe said:

THere is no scenario where uche should stay. Not only a horrific striker who never scores (being better than lot isnt the bar we should be using), but he cant play 90 minutes.While it’s rumoured he is our highest, or one of, earners. One of the first out of the door.  

Completely agree. He’s <ovf censored> awful. He’s more a threat to knocking the Hamil roof down than getting one on target. Not to mention his conditioning for a so called professional is a disgrace. 

[valiant steve]

I can't wait to see the released list and I also hope many of our under contract players are put on the transfer list. 

Garrity, Chis and Ripley deserve to stay and be part of the squad. The young players will hopefully stay too. 

I'd like to see Grant and Massey gone, two of the worst players to ever play for PVFC! 

[kevin_struggles]

Loft - panics in front of goal

Sang -  decent crosser of the ball but no pace and weak, weak, weak.

Lowe - has been

Grant - has been

Massey - headless chicken

Jones - calamity jones nuff said

Clark - sicknote

willo - can't hold the ball up, has no pace, doesn't score enough goals the odd party trick pass doesn't make up for the rest of it.

ojo - went missing when we needed him so I question his character.

 

I can't see us offering Uche a contract but I recognise what he brings to a team and I think chizzie and garrity will be snapped up quickly by other teams

 

Debrah has potential but jumping two divisions proved too much I thnk he will be ok as a squad player next season

Iacovitti will thrive in league two as will smith

 

Not bothered if we keep ripley or not but if we do we need to stop pretending he is a ball player he isnt he's a shot stopper but if I had a choice I would prefer a keeper who dominates his box better coming out and taking catches to take the pressure off etc.

 

There are probably one or two I have forgotten about lurking around who we can offload

 

Dipepa, walters, shorrock, plant and lomax will be great assets if we can keep them and we should be building around them.

 

All the loan players will be gone anyway so not worth mentioning but I will say I wouldn't keep any of them even if I could.

 

Wouldn't be averse to offering worrall and pett one year contracts if they become available but only because they would be terrific squad members to come in as needed. Certainly better than the likes of lowe grant and massey.

 

[BlytheValiant]

On 20/04/2024 at 20:43, Guitar Ray said:

Didn’t we have wingbacks when we were promoted from League 2?

We always looked vulnerable at the back in our promotion season too.  It’s just too easy to play against unless you are predominately playing in the oppositions half.