Derby C (A) match thread - 2nd March.

[Brian Johnson]

6 minutes ago, Sandyford_Lion said:

Like we have said for two years. We have done it on the cheap.

Why will anything be different next year ?

I know that league 2 will cost a lot less than league 1 to rebuild a complete squad

We can not build a new squad because bottlejobs like Ojo and many others are still under contract for next season.

 

[Boslem's Brazil]

1 minute ago, osprey said:

Do we really need a Director of Football ??

we have so many back room staff - its footballers we need 

Would be interesting to compare if we went without one. Pros and cons for both. 

[worldsendvalefan]

8 minutes ago, Boslem's Brazil said:

Do you think there is any way back? I.e if DF builds a team that wins promotion straight back to league 1 using Carol’s new found wealth? Also, any names to replace DF as DOF? 

Easy don't have a DoF. It's not compulsary. We managed without one for 143 years

[Doha]

Unfortunately, someone saw fit to give Ojo a contract until June 2026.

[Vtid]

7 minutes ago, Brian Johnson said:

And if he wins v Shrewsbury. He would have had exactly same the start that the Fleetwood manager had plus Fleetwood have got miles better players than Vale and have strikers that score goals

That’s a big if mate 😆 I can’t agree they have better players than us. Especially not miles better. 2 poor sides to be fair 

[philmpv]

Would be interesting to compare if we went without one. Pros and cons for both. 

We had 140 years without a DOF and aside from the JR era have been largely gash. In 3 full seasons with a DOF we've had a promotion, a poor season and what is looking like a relegation. So little on the pitch seems to have changed. Off the pitch the DOF does seem to be improving us

[Old fort]

2 minutes ago, Brian Johnson said:

We can not build a new squad because bottlejobs like Ojo and many others are still under contract for next season.

 

But then, match revenue will be down by between 600k to 800k with lower home crowds and sparse away followings to VP

[Blaster The Master]

It’s genuinely an achievement to be as bad at football as we’ve been for the last few months.

Sheffield United, hopelessly out of their depth in the PL managed to beat Luton 3-1 away a few weeks ago.

Sutton, bottom of the football league, put four past Notts County last week.

We couldn’t score in a brothel and leak goals for fun.

Massey and Dipepa were playing upfront for us second half. We deserve to go down.

[Houston Valiant]

1 hour ago, Vale Ball said:

Watched some of the Wembley game the other night and thought that lot would Hammer this present team, then I thought what a waste of time going to Wembley was, nothing but misery since and we are back where started with a weaker more spineless cowardly set up.

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It’s never a waste of time with Vale going to Wembley . I wish I could have been there. Great memories. Since then though , it’s all gone downhill. 

[Brian Johnson]

Just now, Old fort said:

But then, match revenue will be down by between 600k to 800k with lower home crowds and sparse away followings to VP

And whose to blame for that?

[Davebrad]

1 minute ago, worldsendvalefan said:

Easy don't have a DoF. It's not compulsary. We managed without one for 143 years

we had Rudgey...

[Phil500]

21 minutes ago, Boslem's Brazil said:

I’m not particularly trying to defend DF, but do we agree it’s a budget problem? Surely any decent league 1 player will come Vale if we pay them enough? 

 

21 minutes ago, Boslem's Brazil said:

I’m not particularly trying to defend DF, but do we agree it’s a budget problem? Surely any decent league 1 player will come Vale if we pay them enough? 

Well yes, but how much over the norm. Let’s face it, if you have no attachment to the area would you come with your family if you had options like Exeter, Oxford, Cambridge,Wycombe and on and on. I used to live in Cape Town, one of the most beautiful cities in the world. When I told my mates I was returning here they wanted to have me committed.

Having said that I do not know why Bosun Lawley or Tshimanga are not running out in Vale shirts.

 

[Old School]

I have to admit that I don't understand why Carol has chosen to die on flitcroft Hill. Carol is a very very successful businesswoman so she must understand that it is results, just results, only results and naff all except results that count so surely to goodness she must see that the trajectory we are on is leading inevitably to disaster. Unlike fraudcroft Carol has a huge financial stake in the club and stands to lose a huge portion of that investment. It is hard, very hard to admit that you have got something so spectacularly wrong as she has with flitcroft. Either Carol just cannot bring herself to admit such a massive misjudgement or perhaps even more worrying she actually does believe that the sun does shine out of 5hitcrofts bottom. 

 

[Rockape99]

1 minute ago, MiddleportValiant said:

I hope so mate, I just want somebody to own up to this mess. Have the players downed tools? Is a budget problem? I think we can all agree flitcrofts a problem so for me his fate is sealed in regards to the fans no matter what happens. I just wish somebody would call a spade a spade at the club and show abit of fight and desire to address and fix the situation. 

Hopefully in time that becomes Moore I'd love him to come and out and call every out the real reason behind this mess. He's been dealt a <ovf censored> hand yes but any man and their dog will take a 5 year contract in their game.

The mess has been created by DF over reliance on Alfie and Oli , throw in no Funso and Ben G for what 6 weeks  basically we had f-all midfield. Throw in we have not got a striker worth a f-all  and we not signed any full backs bar Clarke  . So we can’t score , can’t defend and we get over run in midfield one bloke delivers the is Mr David Flitcroft.

[Santa]

9 minutes ago, Doha said:

Unfortunately, someone saw fit to give Ojo a contract until June 2026.

Giving a 32 year old a 3 (!) year contract should have raised a few eyebrows.