Reverse racism , no?

[SourceOfTheTrent]

I have just finished listening to the Beeb's 'Rotherham' report and it sent a cold chill down my spine and brought back not so fond episodes when working with children in custody - especially so when the racism card was shoved in my face.

 

Least said or written was their reminder - keep racism out of it they would counsel.

 

Needless to say yours truly didn't keep quiet with several written reports altered or filed away in the too hard basket.

 

On two occasions I was clearly instructed it was no longer my concern, that the files would be dealt with otherwise. The fate of those 2 particular girls will remain indelible on my psyche until my dying day.

 

For me 'Political Correctness' is a shield for the cowards.

 

I agree wholeheartedly. It beggars belief that people involved in the Rotherham scandal should even have to consider the 'race' element, never mind fear it, thus failing to tackle child abuse on a monumental scale.

 

Like it or not there is a massive issue with what is acceptable in modern British (and similar) culture and what is acceptable in various imported cultures. It's not to do with skin colour, it's to do with attitude and what certain people deem acceptable behaviour.

 

To lay criticism at the door of certain behaviours often attracts an accusation of racism, sometimes true but often not, and we have created a situation where people are terrified of having this accusation levelled at them, especially in the workplace.

 

I do not condone racism and I am an opponent of such organisations as the BNP, EDL and even UKIP but by the same token I am an opponent of the 'Tarquin & Jemimah' P.C. brigade, the Islington 'socialists' who don't live in the real world and who - somehow - seems to have us all joining in on some middle class post-colonial guilt trip.

 

Our society, our forebears, have fought for generations to win us certain social rights that most of us value very highly; emancipation of women, universal sufferage, freedom of expression, religious tolerance, etc., etc. We have imported large swathes of people who do not and will not share these values and that, to me, is unacceptable.

 

It's about time our politicians stood up for our values and enforced them, which can easily be done in a fair manner. For example, the French have banned the burkah which in my opinion is an infringement on personal liberties; who are the government to tell anyone what they can and can't wear? However, it is not unreasonable to insist that people's faces may not be covered when entering a shop or bank, or when in a public forum such as a classroom. We don't let people wear crash helmets or balaclavas in these situations. It is not unreasonable to insist that all girls will participate in school sports whilst wearing the appropriate clothing, such as a swimming costume or athletics vest & shorts.

 

If people don't like our value set they have the right to argue for their preferred values but also have to accept the majority view of how things are to be. It's called democratic politics and a great many of us have to conform to the laws established by political groups we didn't vote for. Anyone who doesn't like our values should live elsewhere, if you were to go and live in another country surely you'd consider it's values and way of life before you went and judge whether or not you wished to live like that? When in Rome do as the Romans.

 

So, back to the original issue, child abuse is child abuse and it's a henious crime irrelevant of who purportrates it, and we should not be frightened to tackle the offenders no matter what. The Jimmy Savile's and Rolf Harris's should not be protected by virtue of fame and the female oppressors who follow Islamic culture should not be protected by virtue of pseudo political correctness whereby criticism of that mideval set of values is deemed racist.

 

If we don't get to grips with these issues I fear a time in the not too distant future where we'll have a serious and probably violent culture clash within Europe. History tells us that Europeans have a track record of reaching a certain level of tolerance before undertaking brutal retribution, justified or not (and the Nazi period is just one of many examples of that).

[Avon]

I agree wholeheartedly. It beggars belief that people involved in the Rotherham scandal should even have to consider the 'race' element, never mind fear it, thus failing to tackle child abuse on a monumental scale.

 

Like it or not there is a massive issue with what is acceptable in modern British (and similar) culture and what is acceptable in various imported cultures. It's not to do with skin colour, it's to do with attitude and what certain people deem acceptable behaviour.

 

To lay criticism at the door of certain behaviours often attracts an accusation of racism, sometimes true but often not, and we have created a situation where people are terrified of having this accusation levelled at them, especially in the workplace.

 

I do not condone racism and I am an opponent of such organisations as the BNP, EDL and even UKIP but by the same token I am an opponent of the 'Tarquin & Jemimah' P.C. brigade, the Islington 'socialists' who don't live in the real world and who - somehow - seems to have us all joining in on some middle class post-colonial guilt trip.

 

Our society, our forebears, have fought for generations to win us certain social rights that most of us value very highly; emancipation of women, universal sufferage, freedom of expression, religious tolerance, etc., etc. We have imported large swathes of people who do not and will not share these values and that, to me, is unacceptable.

 

It's about time our politicians stood up for our values and enforced them, which can easily be done in a fair manner. For example, the French have banned the burkah which in my opinion is an infringement on personal liberties; who are the government to tell anyone what they can and can't wear? However, it is not unreasonable to insist that people's faces may not be covered when entering a shop or bank, or when in a public forum such as a classroom. We don't let people wear crash helmets or balaclavas in these situations. It is not unreasonable to insist that all girls will participate in school sports whilst wearing the appropriate clothing, such as a swimming costume or athletics vest & shorts.

 

If people don't like our value set they have the right to argue for their preferred values but also have to accept the majority view of how things are to be. It's called democratic politics and a great many of us have to conform to the laws established by political groups we didn't vote for. Anyone who doesn't like our values should live elsewhere, if you were to go and live in another country surely you'd consider it's values and way of life before you went and judge whether or not you wished to live like that? When in Rome do as the Romans.

 

So, back to the original issue, child abuse is child abuse and it's a henious crime irrelevant of who purportrates it, and we should not be frightened to tackle the offenders no matter what. The Jimmy Savile's and Rolf Harris's should not be protected by virtue of fame and the female oppressors who follow Islamic culture should not be protected by virtue of pseudo political correctness whereby criticism of that mideval set of values is deemed racist.

 

If we don't get to grips with these issues I fear a time in the not too distant future where we'll have a serious and probably violent culture clash within Europe. History tells us that Europeans have a track record of reaching a certain level of tolerance before undertaking brutal retribution, justified or not (and the Nazi period is just one of many examples of that).

 

Exceptional post. Agree completely.

[SourceOfTheTrent]

I should add that in relation to the start of this thread, the 'this is my street' affair, there is nothing to say whether or not it was a racist incident. As a kid I came across that a few times where some knuckle draggers decided they owned the street. However, it's unusual to happen to a 57 year old but we don't know the full details, after all it is from the Sentinel.

 

What I will say is if you try and drive down Chaplain Road in Normacot on a Friday you'll find it blockaded at both ends by Asians in cars. They'll open the 'gate' if you ask but what the hell are the Police doing allowing people to block a public road like that? It should be stamped out, it's creating a ghetto mentality.

[aspins-revenge]

When an Asian man is a peadophile, he's an Asian peadophile and his wider culture is called into question

 

When a White man is a peadophile, he's just a peadophile and his wider culture isn't called into question.

 

Why is this? Just wondering like.

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

Central to the definition of racism are the words superior, superiority, put down, all traits that appear frequently in your posts as above.

 

Can you read? Not one of those words appear in that post, yet more fantasy nonsence aimed at diluting the disgusting actions of true racism and not this hash of a story of rubbish.

 

I really to worry for some peoples sanity :)

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

They are individuals so they might, they might not..up to them and nothing to do with me.

 

I wonder if Jimbo will be brave enough to ask them directly?

[Paul6754]

Can you read? Not one of those words appear in that post, yet more fantasy nonsence aimed at diluting the disgusting actions of true racism and not this hash of a story of rubbish.

 

I really to worry for some peoples sanity :)

 

I can read but it appears you can't. The post doesn't say you used those words it says you frequently use words or phrases that give the impression of those traits eg Maybe it's a lack of understanding, closed mindedness or down right ignorance, words that you did use in that and other posts.

 

Because someone has a different view than you it doesn't mean they're ignorant, close minded or don't understand.:cool:

[melv]

Can you read? Not one of those words appear in that post, yet more fantasy nonsence aimed at diluting the disgusting actions of true racism and not this hash of a story of rubbish.

 

I really to worry for some peoples sanity :)

;)

[TheJoker]

;)

 

Thanks for that great post on the subject b&w blood. Ooops sorry melv I mean.

[jimbo57]

I wonder if Jimbo will be brave enough to ask them directly?

 

If theyd ave been at the CCMA where i was a couple of weeks ago when we were 1 of only 3 couples there to celebrite jamaican independence day, I wud have done.

And the black comic who was on was hilarious. Mainly us the butt of his gags but hilarious.

And have alook at chris rock- black comic, whites the subject of his jokes but hilarious, and we dont take offense cos its just a joke - just a joke. I no he doesnt want to hurt me or offendme, the same as i dont if i tell a joke, cos thats all it is - a joke

[For Us All]

I have just finished listening to the Beeb's 'Rotherham' report and it sent a cold chill down my spine and brought back not so fond episodes when working with children in custody - especially so when the racism card was shoved in my face.

 

Least said or written was their reminder - keep racism out of it they would counsel.

 

Needless to say yours truly didn't keep quiet with several written reports altered or filed away in the too hard basket.

 

On two occasions I was clearly instructed it was no longer my concern, that the files would be dealt with otherwise. The fate of those 2 particular girls will remain indelible on my psyche until my dying day.

 

For me 'Political Correctness' is a shield for the cowards.

 

Last year Rotherham council stopped a couple from fostering children because they were UKIP supporters.The same council were rather less proactive when it came to protecting children from being raped,abused and routinely threatened.Utterly despicable.

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

Because someone has a different view than you it doesn't mean they're ignorant, close minded or don't understand.:cool:

 

It sadly does when it comes to deep rooted issues like this.

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

Thanks for that great post on the subject b&w blood. Ooops sorry melv I mean.

 

You'd think he would know the difference between reading and writing given the amount of emails he sends :D

[Paul6754]

It sadly does when it comes to deep rooted issues like this.

 

The air of superiority you emit is astounding and surprising especially debating a subject, racism, where superiority is a central tenet.

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

The air of superiority you emit is astounding and surprising especially debating a subject, racism, where superiority is a central tenet.

 

I just recognise the difference between right and wrong. It's you that keeps referring to superiority which is how 'white supremacists' (the biggest oxymoron of all time) did in the past.

 

There's three topics in this thread;

1. The Rotherham issue that AR mentions which I have read up on briefly but don't feel qualified to talk about.

2. The original 'reverse racism' element from the OP which is just nonsensical, what next will those simple mindless scumbags who threw bricks at the Cardiff bus windows be accused of being racist because their intended victims were from another country?!

3. The element of thinking racist jokes are funny which is just sickening and indefensible. Thankfully the majority of people in the UK no longer support or tolerate such behaviour.