29 minutes ago, Santa said:

Sort of agree but there are 21 games left, 11 at home (I think) and we’ve got to look after BAU.

It was starting to get toxic last Saturday and it will only get worse if we throw in the towel now. A disastrous end of the season could get very ugly and cause a hangover that carries over into next season.

We have to show at least a bit of something. 

Exactly this.  As bad as things look in terms of survival, if we go down why not go down fighting.  That at least sends supporters the right message for next season.

1 hour ago, Matlock Vale said:

Darren Moore's football was the worst football I have ever seen at the Vale. Defensive uninspiring. He was in Charge of the players, tactics and performances.

Did you watch Aspins teams?

He made Moore’s approach look gung ho.

 

2 hours ago, Brian Johnson said:

So, let’s get this straight, everybody believes what Unofficial Vale says even thought that clueless twaat got nothing right for a number of years??

This is again another case of how gullible Vale fans are that they want to grab hold of anything of what anybody says because they can not stand the thought that a jakf decent player like Cole doesn’t want to stick around and play for their club that is in the biggest free fall that I have seen in my 45 years of supporting the club:

Absolute bullshiit and an unnecessary rumour from someone that does not have a clue and absolute bs from everyone on here that believes him 

 

I don’t for one second believe that Devante Cole managed to track down Carol. 

37 minutes ago, smithie said:

If he's violating himself when he should be working he should be sacked right now. 

Well it’s not like he’s rushed off his feet showing new players round is it?? So why not 🤣

Did you watch Aspins teams?
He made Moore’s approach look gung ho.
 

Again in context. Vale at the time were being run into the ground. Asking didnt have the resources Moore had.

4 minutes ago, NW9Valiant said:

Yeah agreed. it was obvious from a squad building POV with both being out of contract one of them was going to go. I would have kept Smith of the two but wasn't surprised Moore chose Debrah as he picked him more often in the L2 season. I'd wager that Moore probably just liked Jesse personally over Smudger. 

 

There was the possibility Debrah had more scope to develop.  Another poster has said Debrah had an option to extend his contract which is what happened.

1 hour ago, Granville said:

Anonymity provides a wonderful lack of accountability:

I don’t disagree with your point but this made me chuckle, posting on a forum with a username  remaining anonymous , or is your name Granville😂

It’s not made up BTW😉

Edited January 30Jan 30 by MBE

1 minute ago, fuzzyvalefan said:

If you look at it in pure business terms it probably is pragmatic but football is not like other businesses, it plays on emotions. We are not merely customers, we have an emotional attachment to the club. 

Selling our only goalscorer in this position without replacing him is the club saying "we're writing this season off, we give up this season." As a fan, I can believe the season is done but a club cannot publicly express this even if its their belief.

Its a matter of pride if nothing else. Do you think they would stop selling matchday tickets? Do you think they will stop taking corporate hospitality money? Do you think they will stop asking for support on away trips? Do you think the club shop will no longer be open for business?  No, they will continually ask us to spend more money despite their own public declaration that they have given up.

That would be unacceptable to me, pragmatic perhaps, but it simply cannot happen without massive fallout in a game where people are not customers, but fans with a great sense of pride in their football club.

Yeah youre probably right and for several weeks I have found it increasingly laughable the calls to action for fans to 'pack the park', 'make it a night to remember', 'create an atmosphere' when the reality was the club had sleep walked in to relegation by mid November. 

Keeping the good players, selling the good players... it wont make a difference. Were gone.

 Cole will not want to play league 2 football. We will be a league 2 club. I'm not sure the club are actively out to sell all our good players this window but the positives to it are these players can't keep us up so let's save some money. 

An embarrassing season. An embarrassing situation. But what you going to do? They wont learn and they dont listen.

Thought I'd put together a little table showing our current squad registration spots, we seem to have one spot left available for somebody coming in, others will require players leaving. 

Squad Registration Chart
22 over 21 can be registered
GK do not count
Players on loan count even if U21
GK	Marosi	GK
GK	Amos	GK
GK	Gauchi	GK
1	Clark	D
2	Gabriel	D
3	Gordon	D
4	Headley	D
5	Heneghan	D
6	Humphries	D
7	Magloire	D
8	John	D
9	C Hall	D
10	Byers	M
11	Garrity	M
12	Ojo	M
13	Croasdale	M
14	Shipley	M
15	G Hall	M
16	Archer	M
17	Paton	A
18	Waine	A
19	Stockley	A
20	Cole	A
21	Brown	A
22
U21	Walters	M
U21	Shorrock	D
U21	Lomax	D

 

13 minutes ago, Guitar Ray said:

Exactly this.  As bad as things look in terms of survival, if we go down why not go down fighting.  That at least sends supporters the right message for next season.

How do we go down fighting? 

Does keeping Cole give us this fight? 

Who do we sign to give us the fight? 7th tier defenders may be up for it i suppose. 

Realistically we would only get players coming in to earn, not arsed about port vale or fighting for us. January isnt the time of year, and we are properly bad at doing deals in Jan. 

Which of our fantastic playing staff have shown any fight? 

Its irreversible. 

She hasn't got an endless amount of money. If things make sense financially then she should do it now. No further harm can come as long as we use this time to ensure next season is a success or at the very least not a huge calamity 

Plus most of these players have shown themselves to be complete pricks. Weak men. Losers. 

<ovf censored> them off. 

It’s been a bit of a shyit season so far, but what a real exciting window for Vale as it stands. Teams will be standing watching in amazement and jealousy as Vale have shown a real go and a sign of the statement of intent to stay in the league. 
 

Edited January 30Jan 30 by Valiant Haze

25 minutes ago, Walter said:

An embarrassing season. An embarrassing situation. But what you going to do? They wont learn and they dont listen.

This sums up the club and ownership perfectly.

In answer to what you going to do?

Me. Nothing. Won’t be going anymore.

Edited January 30Jan 30 by MBE

Look at them Macc lads defeat the holders Palace, surely we can get some players in who’s going be up for the fight! From non league or Australia league let’s give it a go!  U T V!!!!

32 minutes ago, MBE said:

I don’t disagree with your point but this made me chuckle, posting on a forum with a username  remaining anonymous , or is your name Granville😂

It’s not made up BTW😉

Its actually Arkwright 😉

2 hours ago, Packmoor_vale said:

Who cares what u say about us spending our money next year 

Seriously who the <ovf censored> do u think u are 

And it’s closer to 300 than 400 (cock)

Signing off until a loss suits your sad way of supporting your club 

Ok. So somebody pointed this out to me. 
You do realise your anger towards me helps nobody?

I also live rent free in your head for some reason and yet we support the same club. 
Very strange. 

Do you really think I want us to get drubbed? Absolutely not. But I fear it’s inevitable. Again.

And I know how much you hate me. That’s fine. But let me give you a scenario………

It’s Gillingham at home. We lose but eh  it doesn’t matter. It’s great. We are up. We even have a trophy to hold aloft for finishing second. 
Then Carol comes out with good old Paddy. She spends minutes on the mic on the pitch. She does the famous fist bump. And we all laugh and giggle (if that’s what you’re into) as Paddy gets his haircut. 
And then……

As we leave the stadium I say to you that in January, the club will be rock bottom of league one, can’t buy a win, have set the record for the longest time without a goal, Tolaj has left and had a dig at how tinpot we are, Ojo is back in the side despite being a cancer at the club for two years with his attitude, Moore will be sacked, Ronan will want out, Debrah has lost the plot, the player we signed to replace Tolaj wants out, the owners and their family won’t front anything, Wolstanton Utds finest is running the gaff, the head of recruitment is in Portugal, a bloke with no real credibility in league football will take charge and by the way he will sign an absolute crock who he thinks is the answer, from the 7th tier, because he worked with him before, as an answer to our defensive problems and all this less than 72 hours to get anyone in to save our season. 
And by the way, the bloke we just sacked has openly come out and said in an interview that basically we are a tinpot outfit with no ambition. 
 

Now. Packmoor. 
Have a go at me all you want. 
I couldn’t care less. 
But probably park your anger with the football club in general and not somebody you’ve ever met on a forum.

We’re all Vale aren’t we? Used to be the old adage. And yes, I get you think I’m only on here when things are going bad. 
Take a look at Carols tenure. It’s hardly been a footballing love in. 
Two disgraceful league two campaigns and a let’s cut the season short because I’m so nice even though we could go up.

She is way out of her depth at owning a football club. 16 million in loans. And apart from a nice scoreboard and seats in the Lorne street we can’t use, it’s garbage football wise.

But fans like you will knock fans like me, so carry on, but don’t get angrier when we are mid to lower league 2 next January.