Pope got 1 (that's right, 1) from open play in the league last season. If that puts him ahead of Robinson then so be it, but can't see it myself.

I personally think that JA needs a striker that he can rely on to be available first and foremost so that the training during the week can concentrate on the system that he wants to play. If Cullen wasn't so injury prone I think he would be ahead of both Robinson and pope but, as it is, Robinson I think is the man he will look at as his preferred choice, barring Rodney developing quicker than expected.

12 goals is a steady return but Tom got 11 and Cullen 8. I just don’t think Theo will automatically be first choice how you’ve put it. after seeing him in the friendlies if fit Cullen will be first choice for me. 

33 minutes ago, philmpv said:

Pope got 1 (that's right, 1) from open play in the league last season. If that puts him ahead of Robinson then so be it, but can't see it myself.

I personally think that JA needs a striker that he can rely on to be available first and foremost so that the training during the week can concentrate on the system that he wants to play. If Cullen wasn't so injury prone I think he would be ahead of both Robinson and pope but, as it is, Robinson I think is the man he will look at as his preferred choice, barring Rodney developing quicker than expected.

Stats can be twisted anyway you want and to look as bad as you like and you know that's exactly what you're doing here. Will Robinson be as effective in the system as Pope or Cullen for the way we want to play? We don't know until we see him play, but Askey must be confident he can.

What do you think they spend the week on in training? Just a few examples. The work they do in the 11 a side training games will be our usual system and the other team (picked from the rest of the squad) may well set up as the Saturday opposition do. They will also try different combinations of players in these games, swapping the strikers around for example or changing the wingers. Attacking wise the training drills are based on one up front and also us working on patterns of play in the various areas of the pitch in order to get us in to the box or into good positions for a cross or a shot. By that I mean the link up play between the right hand side of the pitch players (say Gibbo, Amoo, Burgess for example) and we'll work on the left hand side too (it may be Monty, Conlon, Worrall). Then you'll get Joyce thrown in to equation in how he links with them and gets the play started. These will then feed in to the one striker for finishing or we'll be working on one of the wingers arriving late or a midfield runner getting to the edge of the box. So basically we train on a one up front basis as we would be setting up usually for a matchday, but that striker will rotate in the drills or the games.

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1 hour ago, darren1810 said:

This fascination with Osadebe is similar to the one some had with Ironside. 

Basically both had half decent games against us in what was quite possibly our worst performance of the entire season. 

In fact Osadebe had a really good game not a half decent game. 

Is he really all that based on 90 minutes against a no show Vale ? 

I'd suggest he isn't. 

We also had a huge clamour on here for Durrell who ended up at York 😂

The 2 aren't really comparable. Osadebe has been unemployed for 8 months. Ironside got fixed up with Cambridge pretty quickly.

Stats can be twisted anyway you want and to look as bad as you like and you know that's exactly what you're doing here. Will Robinson be as effective in the system as Pope or Cullen for the way we want to play? We don't know until we see him play, but Askey must be confident he can.
What do you think they spend the week on in training? Just a few examples. The work they do in the 11 a side training games will be our usual system and the other team (picked from the rest of the squad) may well set up as the Saturday opposition do. They will also try different combinations of players in these games, swapping the strikers around for example or changing the wingers. Attacking wise the training drills are based on one up front and also us working on patterns of play in the various areas of the pitch in order to get us in to the box or into good positions for a cross or a shot. By that I mean the link up play between the right hand side of the pitch players (say Gibbo, Amoo, Burgess for example) and we'll work on the left hand side too (it may be Monty, Conlon, Worrall). Then you'll get Joyce thrown in to equation in how he links with them and gets the play started. These will then feed in to the one striker for finishing or we'll be working on one of the wingers arriving late or a midfield runner getting to the edge of the box. So basically we train on a one up front basis as we would be setting up usually for a matchday, but that striker will rotate in the drills or the games.

Funny how simply stating a fact becomes a twisted stat so far as pope is concerned

24 minutes ago, JRC said:

The 2 aren't really comparable. Osadebe has been unemployed for 8 months. Ironside got fixed up with Cambridge pretty quickly.

No but you get my point. Neither are much good. 

6 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

No but you get my point. Neither are much good. 

I've seen Ironside 3 times I think. He didn't score that many goals last season. His general hold up play was the best I saw in this league. Depends what you want up front.

Osadebe has a career remarkable in his inconsistency.  It's been commented on by all his managers from his Gillingham debut onwards. He's not a winger. If someone could get him to perform at his best 4 out of 5 games he would be on Championship money. The fact he isn't reflects he turns it on maybe 1 in 5 at best.

Both are reasonable players at this level with the potential to maybe play a league higher in a couple of seasons.

 

What a nice headache for JA. He has three proven L2 forwards and an one unknown forward with youth enthusiasm. With injuries and suspensions this means that we should always be able to select a decent forward to start a game. Sounds a lot better than a few of the last seasons with exception of last season.

25 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

No but you get my point. Neither are much good. 

Osadebe is a very very good footballer. Brill signing at this level. Good enough for the league above but as JRC just said isn’t consistent enough. 

On 30/08/2020 at 15:51, Biddulph_PV said:

If think If we get a quality replacement winger (like Rowe or Osadebe for example) then I wouldn’t be too concerned by the midfield ‘gap’ as personally I think Worrall could play the left of a midfield three.

Surely JA has had a conversation with Rowe. Think he would fall into the category of players previously out of reach who may come into reach. Would be very happy with that signing. 

10 minutes ago, Boslem's Brazil said:

Surely JA has had a conversation with Rowe. Think he would fall into the category of players previously out of reach who may come into reach. Would be very happy with that signing. 

Yes, you'd think he'd spoken to him. He clearly has a high opinion of him. When he was at Macc, Askey described him as 'brave, strong, quick, good on the ball and has a good shot on him'". 

At 28, it must be a worrying time to be without a club at this stage of the pre-season, so maybe JA is waiting for the cost of his wages to come down.

The problem as I see it is whether he would come if he thought he was behind Amoo and Wozza in the pecking order. Can't see him wanting to sign just to warm the bench.

But you never know - fingers crossed because he would be a great signing.

11 minutes ago, CambridgeDon said:

Yes, you'd think he'd spoken to him. He clearly has a high opinion of him. When he was at Macc, Askey described him as 'brave, strong, quick, good on the ball and has a good shot on him'". 

At 28, it must be a worrying time to be without a club at this stage of the pre-season, so maybe JA is waiting for the cost of his wages to come down.

The problem as I see it is whether he would come if he thought he was behind Amoo and Wozza in the pecking order. Can't see him wanting to sign just to warm the bench.

But you never know - fingers crossed because he would be a great signing.

Askey also said he lacked self-belief which might stop him achieving his potential in the same interview. He's 28 and played 23 EFL games.

Were we interested in the Danny Rose that has just signed for Grimsby from Swindon? 

16 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:

Were we interested in the Danny Rose that has just signed for Grimsby from Swindon? 

That’s a very good signing for them.

2 hours ago, philmpv said:

2 hours ago, PV1973 said:

Stats can be twisted anyway you want and to look as bad as you like and you know that's exactly what you're doing here. Will Robinson be as effective in the system as Pope or Cullen for the way we want to play? We don't know until we see him play, but Askey must be confident he can.
What do you think they spend the week on in training? Just a few examples. The work they do in the 11 a side training games will be our usual system and the other team (picked from the rest of the squad) may well set up as the Saturday opposition do. They will also try different combinations of players in these games, swapping the strikers around for example or changing the wingers. Attacking wise the training drills are based on one up front and also us working on patterns of play in the various areas of the pitch in order to get us in to the box or into good positions for a cross or a shot. By that I mean the link up play between the right hand side of the pitch players (say Gibbo, Amoo, Burgess for example) and we'll work on the left hand side too (it may be Monty, Conlon, Worrall). Then you'll get Joyce thrown in to equation in how he links with them and gets the play started. These will then feed in to the one striker for finishing or we'll be working on one of the wingers arriving late or a midfield runner getting to the edge of the box. So basically we train on a one up front basis as we would be setting up usually for a matchday, but that striker will rotate in the drills or the games.

Funny how simply stating a fact becomes a twisted stat so far as pope is concerned

Lets not play the victim eh.... you know what you were doing there by dissecting a previous point on the number of goals to pick out a negative in there, so let’s not pretend you weren’t doing anything else but taking a positive and turning it into a dig. 

51 minutes ago, JRC said:

Askey also said he lacked self-belief which might stop him achieving his potential in the same interview. He's 28 and played 23 EFL games.

Makes you wonder if he will be able to forge a career now.