Congratulations to UKIP

[For Us All]

When will UKIP supporters realise that if they vote this way in a General Election, they're gonna get a Labour government. Who are UKIP taking seats off? Not Labour. Why do you think the BBC give UKIP so much airtime? Not for impartiality, because they know UKIP are driving a stake through the heart of traditional Tory support.

 

Realistically, only the Tories and Labour will ever hold power, real power in this country. UKIPpers moan about Labour, but by voting for a party who keep taking votes, and seats off the Tories, they're essentially voting for a Labour government. UKIP will probably never hold more seats than they do now, and if they do, probably no more than 5. Balance of power? You must be kidding. The SNP have got more chance of holding that.

 

Do you really think Farage wants out of the EU? Wants to give up a massive salary, with massive expenses, where he can pay his wife a massive salary to be his secretary? Lets ask the turkey if he wants to vote for Christmas, shall we?

 

Not sure about that,especially if Labour lose most of their 41 seats in Scotland,which is looking very likely.

[For Us All]

Of course, you know beat as always, but facts aren't your strong point are they?

The turnout was over 50 per cent, recent General Elections have sometimes been close to 60 per cent so I doubt there will be a much bigger turnout next year.

 

Your 'damning by faint praise' runs the risk of failing to take UKIP seriously, and will prove a very costly mistake as those like yourself sit there smugly and wonder what happened when we are suddenly run by something very nasty.

 

The film 'Cabaret' springs to mind where the upper class waster thinks it is good that the emergent Nazis are dealing with the leftists and other 'unruly elements' about 1930 and says they can easily be brought under control. Later in the film, when an entire village (except a few Jewish people) rallies to join in with a uniformed Hitler youth kid singing 'Tomorrow belongs to me', he is asked 'Still think you can control them?'.

 

Farage isn't Hitler, but some of the worse elements like that thing that got elected last night will carry along ordinary decent people and use them and thank you for sneering at them and underestimating them. Cameron was truly humiliated, and perhaps the only reasonable thing was the Green vote doing fairly well, and Labour not being totally demolished.

 

The only things that were demolished last night were the Lib.Dems with 349 votes and Emily Thornberry.

[JOHNNYAITCH]

agreed

 

lets not forget the human rights act, the biggest liberal joke of them all "terrorist wins appeal to stay in the uk as he has a cat"

 

Human rights act is totally separate to the EU

[JOHNNYAITCH]

Disappointed at a 2,900 majority with only less than 50% turnout?

 

Precisely..all the UKIP vote will have turned out but not all the Conservative vote will have done so

[sheffield61]

349 votes for a party jointly running the country at the moment must be highly embarrassing!?......

[JOHNNYAITCH]

Of course, you know beat as always, but facts aren't your strong point are they?

 

Ooer I've been sussed ;)

 

Tell me what facts I was wrong about?

 

The turnout was over 50 per cent, recent General Elections have sometimes been close to 60 per cent so I doubt there will be a much bigger turnout next year.

 

So what facts did I get wrong? I suspect that cos of the state of the nation, becasue of the bigger issues like the EU, because of what people saw in the Scottish referendum, because of the rise of UKIP that the trunout will be much higher than it has been in recent elections

 

Your 'damning by faint praise' runs the risk of failing to take UKIP seriously,

 

Again I can't see anything factual that i got wrong..let's go on to the next point

 

and will prove a very costly mistake as those like yourself sit there smugly and wonder what happened when we are suddenly run by something very nasty.

 

Smug?

 

Again I can't see any errors in any 'facts' that I put forward

 

Not sure what you expect me to do other than not vote UKIP..and i won't be viting UKIP and will encourage others not to do so and will as usual be an active pariticpant in campaigning in my local area.

 

The film 'Cabaret' springs to mind where the upper class waster thinks it is good that the emergent Nazis are dealing with the leftists and other 'unruly elements' about 1930 and says they can easily be brought under control. Later in the film, when an entire village (except a few Jewish people) rallies to join in with a uniformed Hitler youth kid singing 'Tomorrow belongs to me', he is asked 'Still think you can control them?'.

 

Good film

 

I'm an upper class waster now!!?? Wow..how did that happen i ask myself ;)

 

FYI I am not in any way a supporter of UKIP and hope they don't get a single seat next year

 

Farage isn't Hitler, but some of the worse elements like that thing that got elected last night will carry along ordinary decent people and use them and thank you for sneering at them and underestimating them.

 

When have I sneered at anyone?

 

 

I haven't seen one example in your post where you showed that i got any facts wrong or ignored any facts.

 

But hey ho..you got it off your chest

Cameron was truly humiliated,

 

I don't agree that it was a total humuliation..worse for the Lib Dems

 

and perhaps the only reasonable thing was the Green vote doing fairly well, and Labour not being totally demolished.

 

I don't agree

[portvaleofbelvoir]

UKIP are the thin edge of the wedge. In times of economic troubles extremist parties do better. To me UKIP’s main issues seem to be immigration and getting out of the EEC.

 

Recent immigration has profoundly affected parts of the UK but if you were poor and had a chance of a better life elsewhere would you not move? It makes it difficult for the locals, where I live the fields are full of crops and migrant workers. The wages are low and who benefits, the landowners and the rest of us in getting relatively cheap food.

 

As for the EEC, I’m not keen on some of the laws they enact but I’d rather have that than the more or less continuous European wars we had before.

 

CambridgeDon, I do agree with your points though!

 

However I would go for a pint with Farage as he’s got more charisma than the other leaders but so did a certain Austrian from a few years back.

 

Finally, this has all got to do with globalisation and the race to the bottom, the problem with constantly driving down earnings for most people is eventually most of us will earn a pittance and only the owners of capital will be affluent.

[For Us All]

UKIP are the thin edge of the wedge. In times of economic troubles extremist parties do better. To me UKIP’s main issues seem to be immigration and getting out of the EEC.

 

Recent immigration has profoundly affected parts of the UK but if you were poor and had a chance of a better life elsewhere would you not move? It makes it difficult for the locals, where I live the fields are full of crops and migrant workers. The wages are low and who benefits, the landowners and the rest of us in getting relatively cheap food.

 

As for the EEC, I’m not keen on some of the laws they enact but I’d rather have that than the more or less continuous European wars we had before.

 

CambridgeDon, I do agree with your points though!

 

However I would go for a pint with Farage as he’s got more charisma than the other leaders but so did a certain Austrian from a few years back.

 

Finally, this has all got to do with globalisation and the race to the bottom, the problem with constantly driving down earnings for most people is eventually most of us will earn a pittance and only the owners of capital will be affluent.

 

You are correct about Ukip's two main issues and apart from the economy that's what most ordinary working class people are concerned about.Ukip have promised to attack the two problems and hence the popularity,it's not rocket science.If Ukip don't achieve anything at the next election at least they have pointed Labour and the Conservatives in the right direction.

[CambridgeDon]

UKIP are the thin edge of the wedge. In times of economic troubles extremist parties do better. To me UKIP’s main issues seem to be immigration and getting out of the EEC.

 

Recent immigration has profoundly affected parts of the UK but if you were poor and had a chance of a better life elsewhere would you not move? It makes it difficult for the locals, where I live the fields are full of crops and migrant workers. The wages are low and who benefits, the landowners and the rest of us in getting relatively cheap food.

 

As for the EEC, I’m not keen on some of the laws they enact but I’d rather have that than the more or less continuous European wars we had before.

 

CambridgeDon, I do agree with your points though!

 

However I would go for a pint with Farage as he’s got more charisma than the other leaders but so did a certain Austrian from a few years back.

 

Finally, this has all got to do with globalisation and the race to the bottom, the problem with constantly driving down earnings for most people is eventually most of us will earn a pittance and only the owners of capital will be affluent.

 

If nothing else, you are right about globalisation. The three main parties, and I'm amazed that Labour (with some honourable exceptions like Tony Benn) allowed themselves to do this, have sold out to the corporate classes whose goal is to maximise profit at the expense of the working class. Gordon Brown, in particular, allowed the City to run riot when he was in charge and turned a blind eye to their malpractices because they brought in so much in tax. The rest, like Cameron and Osbourne, are even worse because it's their mates from public school or the CBI whose bidding they are following. So, when ordinary people's live are ruined by policies designed to keep wages down, they will react accordingly.

 

Emily Thornberry's tweet said it all, really - Labour don't understand nor do they care. White van man is just an object of curiosity, held up for ridicule to her rich socialist mates. Well, the cat's out of the bag now, and it ain't going back in. Welcome to the new world.

[Guppy 4 England]

I've never met an intelligent person

 

We're not surprised.

[Hagrid]

We're not surprised.

 

That's some great banter.

 

 

It really is...

[Bea Smith]

 

Again I can't see any errors in any 'facts' that I put forward

 

Good film

 

I'm an upper class waster now!!?? Wow..how did that happen i ask myself ;)

 

 

 

 

 

I haven't seen one example in your post where you showed that i got any facts wrong or ignored any facts.

 

But hey ho..you got it off your chest

 

 

Well, turnout was actually ABOVE 50 PER CENT.

 

Please, please try to learn to read, it makes it so much easier not to make a fool of yourself and retain a shred of credibility.

 

I said (re the film Cabaret) The film 'Cabaret' springs to mind where the upper class waster thinks it is good that the emergent Nazis are dealing with the leftists and other 'unruly elements' about 1930 and says they can easily be brought under control.

 

From that, nothing could be clearer than the fact that the upper-class waster I referred to was the German aristocrat in the film itself, NOT YOU. As it clearly states that he thinks emergent Nazis can be brought under control, and it was in 1930, this cannot really be in doubt. Have you actually seen the film - you said it was good, and this is one of the major characters who seduces both Liza Minelli and Michael York.

 

So either you are self-obsessed, paranoid and want notice taken of you (oh, surely not) or you cannot read a clear piece of text, or maybe both/all ?

 

I know you are anti-UKIP, but I feel sure they think you are helping them along quite nicely.

[Bea Smith]

I usually make my decision on their intelligence as soon as they tell me that they support UKIP. That one usually does the trick.

 

You, Johnny Aitch and those who express similar opinions are doing more for UKIP than a million immigrants a month could. You don't even realise that you are doing exactly the same as that silly tweet woman did to Labour.

[bookworm]

349 votes for a party jointly running the country at the moment must be highly embarrassing!?......

 

the hagrids and boltons of this world will keep voting for their favourites so us mere second class citizens will go out of step and vote for who we want to, is that ok with you pair.

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

I've never met an intelligent person who votes UKIP.

 

UKIP is an opportunity for inherent racists to be racist whilst pretending their not, spouting bull about the EU and the 'establishment'.

 

**** off UKIP.

 

Haven't you met carllll? ;)