League Two Title

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, TJHValiant said:

Absolutely, the points Covalan and Stone cost us were unbelievable and even in that golden season we hit some real lows. Colchester away was appalling under Crosby was one of the worst days out of football ever. People at the time who said telling him to get the sack, as I did, following that, were being mental evidently never went.

It was really bad, no club should have played like that given how well we were doing. 

didn't too bad in the penalty shoot out v Swindon

[TJHValiant]

16 minutes ago, Phil said:

didn't too bad in the penalty shoot out v Swindon

You didn’t need no keeper with McKirdy around. 

[Warren]

Stone was OK, but was too slow to get down. Also his kicking was quite poor. Ripley is clearly a big improvement at shot stopping and kicking. Covalan was potentially a better keeper than Stone, but you can't keep coming out to Kung Fu the opponents. 

[leedsvaliant]

Those who think that League 2 is a pushover and we will return as champions are deluded.  The top half of that league are teams who are pushing for League 1 and historically finish mid-table on being promoted.  
Our retained list is almost entirely the shower of that only won 24 points in the last seven months of the season including gutless defeats against teams that went down with us (Fleetwood, Carlisle, Cheltenham away) and teams that had nothing to play for (Exeter, Wycombe).  By the end of the season under Moore we were the worst side in League 1 by a country mile, and our results against the teams around us prove it.
I can give you perspective from watching Vale from the 1980’s just how bad this team are, they are undoubtedly the worst Vale team I have ever watched.  Without substantial restructuring of the squad, and possibly a new manager, we will also struggle in league 2.
Look at the National League Tables: Oldham, Rochdale, Southend, York , Darlington, Scunthorpe, Chester, Yeovil if you think it can’t happen to us. For the first time in my life I  really fear that we will be getting another aeronautical visit from the neighbours this time next year.

I've been watching from the late 80s. They're definitely not the worst side we have had, not even close (remember Ross Davidson and Neil Mackenzie as our midfield?) . But in terms of heart and fight, they are comfortably the worst. We need to turn that losing, soft mentality around very quickly.

[Playa Amodores]

7 hours ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

Bill Bratt guided Vale through the darkest period in recent times. He deserves a statue in the  car park. 

Asda,car park.?

[PV1973]

1 hour ago, TJHValiant said:

It was really bad, no club should have played like that given how well we were doing. 

That sounds really entitled. No one has the go given right to turn up and play well. That’s one of the joys of football, you don’t know what you’ll get. 

[Playa Amodores]

3 hours ago, bomber said:

Don't forget we had a shocking keeper in league 2 ! Tried his best to loose us the play offs ! 

Bomber, Stone has been released by Notts County. He might be back.

[Wise Owl]

9 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:

Bomber, Stone has been released by Notts County. He might be back.

No he hasn’t! He is under contract but available for transfer - not quite the same.

[BlytheValiant]

2 hours ago, valerule4ever said:

I’d say our promotion team was miles better as a team, we had good characters who worked hard but also worked as a team, I’d have taken the likes of Gibbons, Worrall, Pett, Benning, Hall, Proctor, Harratt, Edmondson over most of the current lot, even some of the fringe players like Jake Taylor or Brad Walker offered more than some of this seasons squad players, as I’ve said previously I hope only the likes of Garrity, Chislett, Ripley, Plant, Dipepa, Shorrock and Maybe Mitch Clark and Iacovitti are part of the squad next season I don’t really fancy watching the others again!

Compared to 2021-22 we were individually weaker in most positions.  Garrity had a reasonable season this year, but Smith & Wilson went backwards.  Ripley is a better keeper than Stone, but that’s a low bar compared to our historical excellence in this position.  Apart from Ripley, Devine, Arblaster & Chislett, I can’t think of anyone else brought in over the past two seasons who would get near the team that played at Wembley 2 years ago. 

[Hoppers]

Aiden Stone My Lord; or:

The Purple Prince - will be really interesting to see if a league side comes in for Lucas; I really hope so - we all love a good redemption arc 😍😍😍😍

 

 

Edited May 2 by Hoppers

[Fosse69]

36 minutes ago, BlytheValiant said:

Compared to 2021-22 we were individually weaker in most positions.  Garrity had a reasonable season this year, but Smith & Wilson went backwards.  Ripley is a better keeper than Stone, but that’s a low bar compared to our historical excellence in this position.  Apart from Ripley, Devine, Arblaster & Chislett, I can’t think of anyone else brought in over the past two seasons who would get near the team that played at Wembley 2 years ago. 

Moore to have a chat with Smith, suggest he plays better when not the captain. Who would be better? Preferably a new strong defender as captain?

[The man in the pub]

4 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:

Moore to have a chat with Smith, suggest he plays better when not the captain. Who would be better? Preferably a new strong defender as captain?

Garrity, has passion and fight. A sweetener to get him to stay , the Captaincy ?

[Playa Amodores]

6 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:

Moore to have a chat with Smith, suggest he plays better when not the captain. Who would be better? Preferably a new strong defender as captain?

Fosse, I think we’ll have to bring a captain into the club.

[Alan Vit]

8 hours ago, TJHValiant said:

Don’t be silly, those clubs were run by deadbeat morons who should never have been running football clubs. If Norman Smurfwaite can keep us in the Football League, our amazingly well run club with St Dame Carol should have no such worries. 

Your stream of unpleasant comments about Carol Shanahan leads me to wonder if you have some personal grudge against her?

[TJHValiant]

15 minutes ago, Alan Vit said:

Your stream of unpleasant comments about Carol Shanahan leads me to wonder if you have some personal grudge against her?

Yes. Of course, nothing is more personal than seeing the football club you love struggling due to the actions of stupidity and pig headed thinking from how badly run the club has been this past year. 
 

It has been awful and she needs to take responsibility. Of course her sycophants and ass kissers will blame Flitcroft, Moore, poor players but the buck has to stop with her.