PVFC Meet delegation of fans regarding current concerns

[PV1973]

Just comes across as a statement to try and appease the wider fan base and quell unrest. Which won’t happen. 

[Granville]

22 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:

Ok, despite not being involved I will offer some context. I have been a part of B&G in the past but chose not to be on this occasion.

This was not a meeting that Carol initiated or handpicked. It was set up by some fans and Carol had no say in who attended. I think Hancock facilitated.

The joint statement clearly had to be agreed between the parties. I imagine stuff that was said isn’t in the statement - rightly or wrongly.

The fans who attended gained absolutely nothing. They gave up hours to try and get Carol to see what the fans are seeing - from what I’m inferring through this, to little avail.

PVFC doesn’t exist without Mark Porter.

That’s all I know of it.

Oh please. You do spout some entitled rubbish but this takes the cake.

[Ben]

6 minutes ago, robf said:

You're not going to solve all the problems with one meeting. However, if that meeting clears the air and opens up communication channels, gives the owners food for thought etc that surely has to be a good start. 

Spot on Rob

[MBE]

Statement says nothing.

We meet, we exchange views, nothing agreed. Please support the team.

I find it really patronising. The fans have been probably the best they have been all season since Moore took over really backing the players. Frustrations about other issues have been left at the turnstile. 

I will be very honest and say I’m getting really pissed off with the club. For 2 years they keep acknowledging communication needs to be better yet here we are still.

All that needs to happen is the DoF to front up and explain what’s happened in the transfer window.

It’s not rocket science.

How I feel whatever the outcome I’m done. No more season tickets, I’m fed up of being treated like a child by the club.

[Brian Johnson]

Did you attend the meeting @Bede ?

[Bycarsbill]

7 minutes ago, Valiiant said:

 

Carol out.

Too pig headed to do the right thing and the circus will continue to get worse.

You appear not to believe the summary agreed by ALL sides involved in the discussions. On what basis are you asserting that Carol is "pigheaded"?

This meeting may well have been overdue, but my reading between the lines of the agreed statement is that it appeared to be a frank exchange of views and some progress was clearly made in bridging the gap between owners and fans.

Obviously, the proof will indeed be in the pudding, but why not give Carol another chance before climbing in with a personal smear based on your pre-judgement?

[Granville]

6 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

I found this quote the other day which is so true:

“The belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it seems to me to be the root of all that is evil in the world.”

There are two sides to every story.  

I feel the problem is that the club's side of the story isn't very clear, and what has been put forward doesn't convince many people who have the opposite view. 

[Granville]

Besides, none of this will make a scrap of difference if we lose 3-0 to Shrewsbury on Saturday with another limp performance. The knives will once again be out. I don't think Carol sees that.

[JoeB2]

5 minutes ago, Granville said:

Oh please. You do spout some entitled rubbish but this takes the cake.

What of it was entitled?

[Powerline]

Absolute bilge as per. More statements than points this year.

[Essex Vale]

I found that statement to be bland and sterile.  It was full of high level good intent "we are all in this together" mentality.  The author is a club employee, with input from the owners.  I fear this is another attempt to stem the tide of supporter discontent that has misjudged the mood.

The DOF has sacked two managers based on performance.  However, his record is pretty dreadful but he seems to be above and beyond criticism.  There are a number of specific issues I would like to raise with the owners and to receive answers.  I would then wish to publish my own account of such a meeting.  This will not happen we know.

I remain supportive of the Shanahan family.  I am not wholly disheartened about our impending relegation to Division 2, we've been there before many times.  I am disheartened by the sterile corporate "<ovf censored>" that is presented to show that all is well.  I am even more disappointed about the poor decision making of the DOF and the apparent shabby treatment of some players who served us well. 

[lydiatevaliant]

Reading between the lines, the fans told Carol they want Flitcroft held accountable for the last 14 months of failure on the pitch, and she said no. It's hard to feel all that enthused about the meeting if the end result is the root cause of our ongoing malaise remains in post.

It's also not like the fans haven't been getting behind the players already. There's only so much encouragement that can be given when we're playing as we are, with three league wins in nearly six months.

[Guppys left peg]

Don’t see what the point in any of this is in all honesty, the statement itself is whole bunch of nothing. Try winning some games, that’s all they have to do or what anyone should care about.

[JoeB2]

2 minutes ago, lydiatevaliant said:

Reading between the lines, the fans told Carol they want Flitcroft held accountable for the last 14 months of failure on the pitch, and she said no. It's hard to feel all that enthused about the meeting if the end result is the root cause of our ongoing malaise remains in post.

There isn’t really any discussion to be had beyond this. Spot on.

[MBE]

10 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

Just comes across as a statement to try and appease the wider fan base and quell unrest. Which won’t happen. 

Exactly that. It’s trying to pre empt the ‘ Flitcroft get out of our club’ should we fail to beat Shrewsbury Saturday.

Deluded