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  1. Didn't we sign Akpo Sodje from Darlington reserves? Leon Constantine from Torquay's bench? Steve McPhee from Coventry reserves? They did ok for us as I remember.
  2. The only surprise to me is that they ever appointed him in the first place. He has won precisely nothing as a manager. Shrewsbury appointed him on the basis of 6 months as boss at Wrexham, where they had a decent run but didn't win anything.
  3. Sad news, I have vivid memories of John Rowland. His record when he was moved from right wing to centre forward was fabulous. His run of scoring in successive games is still a record. He was the scorer of the first Port Vale goal I can recall in detail. It was in March 1963 against Carlisle. We had a throw midway into their half, the left back turned his back on John and went to pick up a position marking another Vale player. Quick as a flash John took throw in and deliberately bounced it off the back of the defender. He took the rebound dribbled to the edge of the area and let fly a shot
  4. This whole issue is a festering sore. There have been issues with this service since it started for non Saturday games back in August 2018. For the provider to continue to specify "technical issues with the platform" is wholly unacceptable and nonsense. The contract is with the EFL and the performance of the contractor has always been inconsistent and a significant number of users have not received what they paid for. What are the EFL going to do to ensure that every fan, throughout the country receives the service for which we pay? The EFL is culpable here. They need to launch a partners
  5. What makes it even worse, only in the last few days he has signed up 10 players on contracts. What on earth are their agents doing? What is the PFA doing? The owner's behaviour is appalling, but so called professionals have turned a "Nelsonian" blind eye to his continued dealings. It is clear that when John Askey left that he could not afford a manager, so he engages a high profile man in Sol Campbell. Tim Flowers was only recently appointed. Did the representatives of these two high profile former England players carry out any "due diligence" checks? It would seem not. Why are pro
  6. There are a number of anomalies here that we don't fully understand. Apparently his sister was injected by two Albanian men and that is what kicked the incident off. I understand that two plain clothes Police Officers arrived and waved some kind of id card. Maguire and his brother did not know for certain that they were police officers. It is easy to understand how, in those circumstances, people would react quickly and assume that those people in plain clothes may be criminals masquerading as police, especially if they just appeared from nowhere, as seems to be the case. It seem
  7. Good topic, in football terms have to agree with Leicester and Greece, stunning upsets, where no one would have put money on either team. Close to home for me as a cricket fan (as well as football fan) is England losing to the Netherlands in the 2009 2020 world cup. A similar disaster that afflicted England, this time in the football world cup, was losing 1-0 to the USA in the 1950 World Cup Finals, and being eliminated as a result.
  8. Dan Jones has signed for Hereford https://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/18582565.dan-jones-joins-bulls-aim-take-back-football-league/
  9. Good thought provoking stuff, on the back of our signing of Zac Mills. Overall, in utility terms, I think I find it hard to separate Mick Morris or Alan Webb as the best for us. Mick was perhaps the best overall utility cover player. He was signed as a centre-forward, moved on to the wing, became mostly a mid fielder, now and again he covered at full back or centre back when we were really pushed. He weighed in with a fair share of goals. Alan Webb pushes him close in utility terms, but in fairness apart from the very odd cover game Webby was almost exclusively a right back. Matty C
  10. I agree with all that is said. I would, however, add one little rider. I understand that Nathan has not rejected, nor accepted, Vale's contract offer. I think that as this stage he ought to formally reject it. Perhaps he has had a private word with the manager. Perhaps the failure to formally reject the offer is a bit of a belt and braces job, where I suspect the agent is the power behind the strategy. I think it is the failure to reject the offer, and failure to say a fond and formal farewell to Vale and the fans that is behind some of the negative comments. Nathan has the right to ad
  11. Welcome to Devante. His goals on You Tube show someone with a bit of pace who is willing to run at defenders. For the boss to give him a three year contract shows that he really rates him. I trust our manager's judgement. Let's hope Devante has a great career with us.
  12. Tony Loska went to Chester as part of the deal that brought Neil Griffiths to us, it was a player exchange but we also had to pay money to Chester as well. Tony went on to play lots of games for Chester and Halifax in the football league. As an aside Neil Griffiths was Gordon Lee's last, and most expensive, signing.
  13. Indeed so, a thread that did not provoke comment and discussion would be a thread with no value.
  14. I understand Rob, but I must disagree with the comparison. Luke Joyce has never left Port Vale, he was signed by Aspin he is still here under Askey. Colin Tartt was signed by Gordon Lee and he left Port Vale. When he was signed for the second time, and enjoyed the only promotion of his career and his highest goals per games ratio he had been signed by John McGrath, and continued under John Rudge. Of course these threads are a bit of fun and there is never a definitive answer, it is always good to compare though. I did not mention John King, fabulous skipper. In terms of a central
  15. Great thread, Horton and Morgan no one can possibly disagree with those two, cast iron certainties in everyone's selection. I would not put Colin Tartt in on the basis that his promotion and some of his best times for Vale came after he was signed for the second time by John McGrath, but it is a close call. I would put in Bill Summerscales who he signed from Leek for £400. He broke his neck, and whilst he returned, he was never the same player. Ray Williams, yes, can't argue with him really, although Bobby Gough runs him very close.
  16. Old Sage wrote with wit and humanity, imbibed in truthfulness. I will miss his posts. I regret that I never met him face to face. This awful disease strikes so quickly and with such finality. RIP Old comrade and Valiant in arms.
  17. Colin Grainger was the first Port Vale player I saw score a goal. He also scored the first FA Cup goal I ever saw. His book is well worth reading, he talks about the Vale in quite some detail. He talks with much admiration about the ability of Roy Sproson, who he felt could easily have played in the top level. He also speaks well of local players Terry Miles and Harry Poole. He makes a very nice tribute to the late great John Nicholson who sadly lost his life at the age of 30. He refers to the madness of the Vale Board and Freddie Steele, in his second spell, when they decimated the c
  18. Only older fans will remember Butler. Recent memory suggests Jim Gannon. Gannon was not a bad manager technically, his big mistake at Vale was failing to supress his superiority complex. His approach quickly left him with no one on the staff to support him. His error was around behaviour and personality. In terms of sheer incompetence and ineptitude Dennis Butler stands alone. However, the Board at the time allowed him to spend lots of money, by Port Vale standards of the day, significant amounts of money, breaking our transfer record a few times over. A measure of his incompetence sh
  19. Ooops pressed the send button too quickly, my link gives you home attendances total no breakdown so it will be of no use to you I am afraid
  20. https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/port-vale/attendances All contained in this link
  21. Another sad day, too many of them recently. John was a very elegant player, he always seemed to have time on the ball. He was a man of many talents who built two different careers. Followers of Coronation Street will know about that reference to Newton and Ridley. There was only one occasion when Bob Newton and John Ridley scored in the same game, at Hereford in 1983 our promotion season. I lived in Hereford at the time, and greatly enjoyed my very short journey home from Edgar Street that day. We mourn his passing, but celebrate his life.
  22. Thanks Rob, those two goals speak for themselves really.
  23. I remember that game well, but Mick Cullerton eclipsed him on the day, and we won 3-1. The crowd was not 11,000, the 11,000 crowd for that season's youth team was the quarter final against Scunthorpe. The Coventry game got over 5,000 though, which was pretty damn healthy. I agree your observation that he was mature for his age and he clearly stood out. It is all about opinion, of course, but I stick with my thought that Mick Cullerton outshone him that day.
  24. Not necessarily the best every player, but I think the best and most influential performance. FA Cup 1989 home to Norwich, they were top of what is now the Premier League. We led 1-0 at half time, a screamer from Alan Webb. Andy Townsend took us on virtually single handed in the second half and we lost 3-1. He was unplayable that day.
  25. Trying not to be smug, but I got all 15. To be fair, I saw 14 of them actually play for Vale. Two of them were selected as captains of their country when playing for Vale.
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