They've done it!

[NorthwoodValiant]

10 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

The thing with the bigger than us debate is it's all about the here and now. 

Rotherham were reinvigorated by their new stadium. I've been to Millmoor a few times where there was less than 4000 there including at least 400 plus Vale. Now they generally top 10'000 each game.

Back in the day we were way bigger than Bournemouth. Obviously the attraction of the seaside led to good Vale numbers in a small attendance. Bournemouth would bring 200 to Vale. They are now cash rich and still have the same stadium. 

We are not helped by being a two city club. 

Luton have proved anything is possible. Beating clubs with double and treble their attendance and budget.

That's why League one has seen recent promotions for Burton and Wycombe into the Championship. Because all the stars aligned and they believed. 

It's no use wallowing about saying oh look at Derby Ipswich Wednesday etc we have no chance. Of course we do. Astute recruitment and an identity worked for Burton and Wycombe, budgets and fan base clearly and mostly are a factor but it's absolutely possible to do.

If we aren't in the top 3 by October I'll be fuming 🤣

 

'Astute recruitment' doesn't mean 'spend millions on strikers'

[Playa Amodores]

15 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

The thing with the bigger than us debate is it's all about the here and now. 

Rotherham were reinvigorated by their new stadium. I've been to Millmoor a few times where there was less than 4000 there including at least 400 plus Vale. Now they generally top 10'000 each game.

Back in the day we were way bigger than Bournemouth. Obviously the attraction of the seaside led to good Vale numbers in a small attendance. Bournemouth would bring 200 to Vale. They are now cash rich and still have the same stadium. 

We are not helped by being a two city club. 

Luton have proved anything is possible. Beating clubs with double and treble their attendance and budget.

That's why League one has seen recent promotions for Burton and Wycombe into the Championship. Because all the stars aligned and they believed. 

It's no use wallowing about saying oh look at Derby Ipswich Wednesday etc we have no chance. Of course we do. Astute recruitment and an identity worked for Burton and Wycombe, budgets and fan base clearly and mostly are a factor but it's absolutely possible to do.

If we aren't in the top 3 by October I'll be fuming 🤣

 

Darren, If we aren’t in the EPL in three seasons, then we have to question our existence. 

[wotsyobeef]

It doesn't matter if they get stuffed IMO, after the years of pain they have suffered I can't imagine they will mind getting beaten by Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool etc

This is what most fans say until they have watched 10 losses in a row. It then changes just look at the 2nd half of our season.

[darren1810]

14 minutes ago, NorthwoodValiant said:

'Astute recruitment' doesn't mean 'spend millions on strikers'

Absolutely. 

Mullen and Longstaff achieved the same aim. 

One cost thousands in transfers and wages. The other matched Haaland at one stage for goals and was purely down to good research and scouting. 

[darren1810]

1 minute ago, wotsyobeef said:

10 hours ago, NorthwoodValiant said:

It doesn't matter if they get stuffed IMO, after the years of pain they have suffered I can't imagine they will mind getting beaten by Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool etc

This is what most fans say until they have watched 10 losses in a row. It then changes just look at the 2nd half of our season.

The very sad reality in the bonkers world of football is Edwards could be sacked in November. 

A fair number of clubs pull the trigger once the results turn. Forest were very very close to firing Cooper if the media were correct and I'm glad for him that they stayed up. 

[NorthwoodValiant]

2 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

Absolutely. 

Mullen and Longstaff achieved the same aim. 

One cost thousands in transfers and wages. The other matched Haaland at one stage for goals and was purely down to good research and scouting. 

So do you agree that asking to sign players like Jonson Clarke Harris would be down to cost and not good research and scouting

[Playa Amodores]

2 minutes ago, wotsyobeef said:

10 hours ago, NorthwoodValiant said:

It doesn't matter if they get stuffed IMO, after the years of pain they have suffered I can't imagine they will mind getting beaten by Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool etc

This is what most fans say until they have watched 10 losses in a row. It then changes just look at the 2nd half of our season.

My friends who follow the Hatters home and away are both pleased and excited about their promotion. However they say that the club will now become unrecognisable, with favourite players leaving and mercenary players coming into the club. They do see this as the ticket to allow them to move grounds, even though they’re physically and emotionally attached to the Kenny. They also see this as a kick in the teeth to the authorities who deducted all the points off them forcing them into what is now the National League.

[philmpv]

Even more remarkable when you look at their team. Far from a recruitment drive of 'proven championship players', most of their team has come from the lower leagues. Outstanding recruitment and management

[darren1810]

20 minutes ago, NorthwoodValiant said:

So do you agree that asking to sign players like Jonson Clarke Harris would be down to cost and not good research and scouting

Yes. I've not suggested we splash stupid money. 

He's unrealistic and anyone thinking otherwise is deluded. 

[NorthwoodValiant]

25 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

Yes. I've not suggested we splash stupid money. 

He's unrealistic and anyone thinking otherwise is deluded. 

Agreed

[Playa Amodores]

Well if it does happen to us, I hope someone forms a new club called FC Vale and we share a ground with Milton United. I couldn’t bear the thought having having a bunch of tacho munchers and Prosecco quaffers sitting next to me.

[The French Connection]

Shame Nathan Jones missed out 😂, but pleased for Edwards, who did a great job at FGR and was not given a chance at Watford.  He obviously has something about him. 

[philpvfc]

And Bournemouth remain in the Premiership with gates less than 15k.

[philmpv]

And Bournemouth remain in the Premiership with gates less than 15k.

Crowd numbers mean nothing in the PL given the eye watering amount of TV money each club gets.

[For Us All]

Congratulations to Luton Town for proving anything is possible in football with our pyramid system.This is a team we played in December 2017 and beat 4-0!!

Well done and good luck in the PL.