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12 hours ago, Vale fan in Alsager said:

No problem with Smith he is a ok player no more though ,fine if you want to finish lower end league every season (FACT).

I want more for my football club.

Stoke fans playing for Vale no problem with that as Gibbons will go for good money eventually but Smith not for me .

I've been critical of Smith myself. Had a great first season then seemed to struggle and rightly lost his place last season for a while. As with most of the team he has improved vastly under Askey and is playing well. Not sure who you expect to be at CH in a mid table League 2 team. We have no 200 grand spare for a Dean Glover or Michael Walsh. 

Smith is doing ok and you can't deny mate your dislike for him for whatever reason. 

 

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11 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

I've been critical of Smith myself. Had a great first season then seemed to struggle and rightly lost his place last season for a while. As with most of the team he has improved vastly under Askey and is playing well. Not sure who you expect to be at CH in a mid table League 2 team. We have no 200 grand spare for a Dean Glover or Michael Walsh. 

Smith is doing ok and you can't deny mate your dislike for him for whatever reason. 

 

I just want him get his dream move to stoke.

Vale on a whole have been terrible so the poster before is wrong ,I haven’t blamed Smith for our demise if the other 10 players were to a level they need be then it would be irrelevant if Smith played poorly or not .

Admit he is solid in the air but very suspect on the ground.

Great that he has come through the youth team and has played over 100 games.

Great that he rarely gets booked it a bit  weird for a  centre half wouldn’t you say .

We are a very average team but that will not attract the casual fans to come we need be better .

I very rarely attend so you have watch him I just hope he and all the other Vale players do not short change the supporters and we improve significantly.

UTV 

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Its not the first time you’ve mentioned the last 3 seasons of struggle and Smith in the same sentence, so no one is stupid enough to not see what you’re really saying. Who can forget when you accused him of throwing games because he’s a Stoke fan. 

How can you even have an objective opinion when you admit you don’t go to games and it’s clear you have a massive problem with the fact that some of the players are Stoke fans. (Which is your problem alone really).

I rarely hear many dissenting voices at the games for how the “Stoke lads” in our side play. Their commitment is there for all to see, except you. If a player gives his all for the shirt then it makes no odds who they support. Another point to remember is that it’s been a long time since our rivalry was at its peak when we were playing each other, at a guess these players probably wouldn’t have even been in school then.  The reality is that our rivalry to this generation of kids is nowhere near what it was with ours, because there hasn’t been a rivalry for them to get their teeth into such has been the gulf that’s grown between the 2 clubs.

So as a result of that stint in the Premier League luckily for you, even if Smith or Gibbons leave, we have an academy of players that has a shedload of Stoke fans ready to take his place that you can continue to have your unhealthy fixation on. 

Anyway, I think the Stoke fans in our side been the least of our worries this season. 

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somebody, who I wont mention as he is another attention seeker, wrote :-  "Vale on a whole have been terrible so the poster before is wrong "   I know he gives his location as Cheshire, but does that warrant being an ill informed, myopic fool ..........ah well another on the ignore list.  Its quite good on here when you put the children on the naughty step. 

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55 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

Its not the first time you’ve mentioned the last 3 seasons of struggle and Smith in the same sentence, so no one is stupid enough to not see what you’re really saying. Who can forget when you accused him of throwing games because he’s a Stoke fan. 

How can you even have an objective opinion when you admit you don’t go to games and it’s clear you have a massive problem with the fact that some of the players are Stoke fans. (Which is your problem alone really).

I rarely hear many dissenting voices at the games for how the “Stoke lads” in our side play. Their commitment is there for all to see, except you. If a player gives his all for the shirt then it makes no odds who they support. Another point to remember is that it’s been a long time since our rivalry was at its peak when we were playing each other, at a guess these players probably wouldn’t have even been in school then.  The reality is that our rivalry to this generation of kids is nowhere near what it was with ours, because there hasn’t been a rivalry for them to get their teeth into such has been the gulf that’s grown between the 2 clubs.

So as a result of that stint in the Premier League luckily for you, even if Smith or Gibbons leave, we have an academy of players that has a shedload of Stoke fans ready to take his place that you can continue to have your unhealthy fixation on. 

Anyway, I think the Stoke fans in our side been the least of our worries this season. 

No fixation m8 I just want Vale be better .

When was the last cup run we had .

When was the last time any of our players were attracting big money moves to keep the club running ..

You  go every game I see so you are better to judge than me so let’s leave it at that .

Enjoy the rest of the season let’s hope the performances get folk wanting go Vale and spend there hard earned .

Hope the Shanahan can make the club sustainable 

UTV 

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I just think we’ve got bigger things to sort out within the team rather than focusing repeatedly on Smith. Like the midfield, getting more goals in the side and a left back. 

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Winnable this, Plymouth have had a similar start to us despite their pillaging of Bury.

On the plus side we took 4 points of Bury and out played them at times on the final day so may go the same way against a Plymouth sides whos attack is pretty much Bury last season!

 

 

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1 hour ago, PV1973 said:

I just think we’ve got bigger things to sort out within the team rather than focusing repeatedly on Smith. Like the midfield, getting more goals in the side and a left back. 

Scott Brown was discussing Askey’s style of play today, and mentioned he likes the fullbacks bombing on. He then went on to say Crookes doesn’t get forward as much as Gibbons. 

Seems strange that Askey signed a defensive fullback (Crookes) when his philosophy is for the fullbacks to push on.

Also, Brown mentioned they are encouraging the CHs to split from goal kicks to receive the ball and play out from the back. Which again doesn’t correspond with his first choice CHs (Smith and Legge) who aren’t that comfortable on the ball. 

In addition, goals from midfield is still a problem, as well as the lone Striker being isolated 

I think Askey will remedy this over time, however I’m not sure what the solution is short term.

If everyone is fit, and we are playing a midtable / bottom half team at home, I’d try the below.

Brown

Gibbons  Kennedy Legge  Monty

Manny  Joyce  Worrall

Browne  Archer  Amoo

Could leave us massively wide open, but it would be entertaining 😄

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10 hours ago, Vale fan in Alsager said:

No fixation m8 I just want Vale be better .

When was the last cup run we had .

When was the last time any of our players were attracting big money moves to keep the club running ..

You  go every game I see so you are better to judge than me so let’s leave it at that .

Enjoy the rest of the season let’s hope the performances get folk wanting go Vale and spend there hard earned .

Hope the Shanahan can make the club sustainable 

UTV 

Last cup run? Last season in the paint pot cup. 

 

Happy to pop this fool on ignore anyway. 

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1 hour ago, Emile said:

Last cup run? Last season in the paint pot cup. 

 

Happy to pop this fool on ignore anyway. 

Why put him on ignore...he speaks the truth

 

Consistency is painfully lacking from some players and it's time they upped their level...after all they get paid a hell of a lot more than me and you (I assume)

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What’s money got to do with it?  Besides you’re missing the point, the mindless singling out of one player purely because of who he supports is ridiculous, especially seeing as he’s been one of our most consistent players too. 

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"Winnable this, Plymouth have had a similar start to us despite their pillaging of Bury." (valefan16)

Indeed, it is a winnable game. Despite their position as one of the bookies' favorites for the title/promotion, if we do win we will actually go above Plymouth!

Wonder if that would put us into the promotion race? Unlikely...

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13 hours ago, whotobeakiller said:

Consistency is painfully lacking from some players and it's time they upped their level...after all they get paid a hell of a lot more than me and you (I assume)

Comparing a 2nd divisions footballers salary to yours to argue about their consistency is a little strange... try comparing it to a premier league players. 

I can guess which is the bigger gap!

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On 09/09/2019 at 19:20, darren1810 said:

Smith is to VFIA what Dodds and Lloyd are to you. 

Notice Dangerous Dodds on the bench at Chorley and Lloyd isn’t making the squad.

Maybe you will admit I was right ( but don’t expect you will man up and accept it).

At least Smith is in the team and playing every week and is earning his wages.

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18 hours ago, Emile said:

Last cup run? Last season in the paint pot cup. 

 

Happy to pop this fool on ignore anyway. 

Please do it’s not like I’m bothered anyway .

Paint pot run wow with very poor attendances bar the stoke under 21s game .

Your right though and ended with a no show v Bristol Rovers .

I’ve been watching Vale regularly since a cup game v Liverpool think we lost 5-2 after holding them 2-2 at Anfield ,giving 100 per cent encouragement and support from the paddock from both ends whichever way we attacking to and under Sinnott Glover Gannon .

So be honest with you I love Vale but there is more to life and when you work nights and have three hrs sleep and are on shift on the sat night 2 every 4 rolling weeks and see what I’ve been witnessing these 4/5 seasons it makes you bitter .

So I apologise for my posts 

.UTV 

 

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40 minutes ago, Vale fan in Alsager said:

Please do it’s not like I’m bothered anyway .

Paint pot run wow with very poor attendances bar the stoke under 21s game .

Your right though and ended with a no show v Bristol Rovers .

I’ve been watching Vale regularly since a cup game v Liverpool think we lost 5-2 after holding them 2-2 at Anfield ,giving 100 per cent encouragement and support from the paddock from both ends whichever way we attacking to and under Sinnott Glover Gannon .

So be honest with you I love Vale but there is more to life and when you work nights and have three hrs sleep and are on shift on the sat night 2 every 4 rolling weeks and see what I’ve been witnessing these 4/5 seasons it makes you bitter .

So I apologise for my posts 

.UTV 

 

The paint pot is the only trophy we have an outside chance of winning. Plus it brings in cash. It's the banging on about Smithy. He's one of our better players in the opinion of many. Who do not give a sh1 T who he allegedly supports. Nothing to apologise for, just give him a break and judge him on what he does on the pitch. 

He's generally steady. At the moment team sheet goes - Brown, Smith, Legge, Gibbo, Amoo, Worrall, Joyce... fill in the rest. 

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5 minutes ago, ClntonBoulton said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we play Plymouth on a Sunday ko at 2.00pm during the 1974 strikes so we didn't use floodlights? I vaguely remember them having 3 men sent off and we won 3-0......

We played them once in the most torrential rain I've ever experienced. Think that was also a 3-0. But would have been 80's.

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2 minutes ago, toyahw said:

We played them once in the most torrential rain I've ever experienced. Think that was also a 3-0. But would have been 80's.

Think I remember that as well....eeee age is a terrible thing! Me and my cousin went down to Home Park 75-76 season when we'd be 16, our first away trip on our own, just one coach load of us. The gate was about 18000 as we were both up there in old 3rd Div.....Derek Brownbill scored first for us and what was left of us jumped to celebrate before we realised their "mob" was leaving their end and they surrounded us on the terrace....they gently reminded us this was their patch and when they equalised we copped some. After the game the coach got bricked and we drove back to Bozlem with one side of the windows missing......Happy days!

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