Vale Park?

[Beza]

I can’t see how the gate can be fiddled , the police box I understand has every click on the turnstile adding up as fans enter each part of the ground, would it be in vales or smurfs interest to fiddle the gate, big punishment I would of thought if get caught, from F A and the tax man

get real, police, Smurf,FA,Tax Man in your statement. OMG.

[TJHValiant]

Sheffield U & Bolton in our relegation season were pretty full

 

Yes of course! I didn’t get to the Bolton game but saw the Sheffield one. Sheffield was def a sell out.

[butt lane vale fan]

1615 away fans by the way. Bycars holds 4000 away end 4500 Lorne street 1500 railway 7000 so capacity must be around 16500. We were full against Northampton in promotion season and the crowd was 12500 with 1000 away so there's only space for 11500 home fans. My guess today is 1000 Lorne street 50 family stand 500 bycars 4000 railway 2000 Sunderland so only 300 more than official crowd given. Most people were expecting a crowd around 9000 today but that was more down to the fact we expected 4000 away fans.

To be fair mate we were nowhere near full v Northampton has there was loads of empty Seats at the Bycars end of the paddock near us, plus they didn't bring that many.

As for today I was working so can't comment however judging by people who watched on TV they viewed the Hamil from a different angle than the Hamil end of the Paddock and again said the 1600 odd was about right.

[CAVALIER]

3 of the 5 sections in the Hamil were full.

[smithie]

There didn't seem to be many/any more home fans than usual in the Bycars or Lorne St, and I'd guess another 1000-1500 in the Railway and Paddock over and above the norm.

 

If Sunderland filled 3 blocks that's about 2400, so something's amiss.

[Warren]

Disappointed at attendance. impact of live TV?

[Warren]

Railway was fuller, Bycars a bit fuller. Lorne Street had more lightweight supporters - wouldn't turn out regularly.

[Jacko51]

3 of the 5 sections in the Hamil were full.

 

No, they just looked full. You can scatter loads of empty seats around a section and the area will still look full.

[valefan16]

Odd that 300 who Sunderland claimed purchased tickets didn’t turn up along with no increase on the day but the Hamil did look to have a few empty seats in the blocks, on another point I couldn’t believe how silent Sunderland fans were? I expected them to be really vocal and passionate but barely made any noise even when 2 up. Away crowds a fraction of that have made more noise this season and that stand has great acoustics.

 

The rest is about right, the bottom end of the railway paddock was pretty empty near the Bycars.

 

Seemed a few more than normal, can always tell the day trippers in their old tops looking for their seats on their tickets!

 

Great atmosphere I thought in the home ends for a change. Need that more often.

[For Us All]

No, they just looked full. You can scatter loads of empty seats around a section and the area will still look full.

 

Especially when the majority of fans are standing up?

[Fosse69]

Odd that 300 who Sunderland claimed purchased tickets didn’t turn up along with no increase on the day but the Hamil did look to have a few empty seats in the blocks, on another point I couldn’t believe how silent Sunderland fans were? I expected them to be really vocal and passionate but barely made any noise even when 2 up. Away crowds a fraction of that have made more noise this season and that stand has great acoustics.

 

The rest is about right, the bottom end of the railway paddock was pretty empty near the Bycars.

 

Seemed a few more than normal, can always tell the day trippers in their old tops looking for their seats on their tickets!

 

Great atmosphere I thought in the home ends for a change. Need that more often.

Apart from sudden illness/work changes etc, which makes travelling impossible (I still have my away ticket for Everton), one reason to buy a ticket is for use in a away ticket loyalty scheme, which Sunderland have, especially if it moves you up a step. ManU fans used to buy bundles of away programmes in the 60s.

[jjvale_03]

I think most of you are nuts!

 

The end holds 4550. We know that from the Wolves game in 2013 - although there were stories of turnstile operators letting in Wolves fans without tickets to avoid potential issues with fans locked outside but let's ignore that for now.

 

The netting over the front four rows of seats reduces the capacity to just above 4000. On Sunday, clearly Sunderland filled less than half of the non-netted seats, and stood for the whole match meaning it looked fuller than it was. Oddly, they also filled the seats lower down the stand (especially in the blocks nearest to the Lorne Street) and left the upper 60% of the block empty. Maybe that was so it looked fuller on TV or maybe the Sunderland fans sat in their allocated seats and when being sold they started from bottom to top of the blocks. Ask them to all sit down and remove all netting and you could squeeze them into two blocks with a tiny bit of spillover.

 

I hate NS as much as the next rationale minded supporter but all talk of massive attendance manipulation is garbage.

[ValeKev]

Onevalefan is becoming a conspiracy hotbed. Full of nuts so deep in they only believe their own truths.

[Heatwave]

Onevalefan is becoming a conspiracy hotbed. Full of nuts so deep in they only believe their own truths.

 

They were right about Billy's biscuit tin; who's to say they're not right about this?

[ValeKev]

They were right about Billy's biscuit tin; who's to say they're not right about this?

 

The fact you could see it with eyes.