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Regal Beagle Mentor

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It is only election winners that have to implement their promises, well just the promises that suit. There are no referendum winners except the tax evaders.

 

Again, I'm talking definitions here.

 

Lying has nothing to do with winning and losing.

 

Corbyn made promises in the last election and then denied making them straight afterwards. That is a lie. Regardless of whether or not he has a chance to renege.

 

 

The whole country are winners after the referendum. Even you remoaners out there. And yes, you are very welcome:smile:

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Regal, What facts?, your reply was mostly incoherent.

 

Anyway let's agree to disagree. My view is honesty and integrity are an integral part of a successful democratic process whereas your view is they are not.

 

The actual definition of democracy which does not ever mention honesty and therefore has nothing to do with honesty.

 

You can agree to disagree with facts all you like, you are wrong either way.

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FUA, So no one who voted leave in 2016 has popped off and no person has turned 18 who would be more likely to vote remain.

 

The data suggests if those who voted in 2016 and are still living voted exactly the same way then the demographic change since 2016 to now would now lead to a majority remain vote.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/final-say-brexit-latest-young-voters-second-referendum-remain-poll-a8467631.html

 

Doesn't take into account all the people who have woken up and seen the EU for what it is.

 

There's no point in a second referendum, it'd be a landslide for justice. It would simply delay our independence.

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Again, I'm talking definitions here.

 

Lying has nothing to do with winning and losing.

 

Corbyn made promises in the last election and then denied making them straight afterwards. That is a lie. Regardless of whether or not he has a chance to renege.

 

 

The whole country are winners after the referendum. Even you remoaners out there. And yes, you are very welcome:smile:

I am not a tax evader.

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Doesn't take into account all the people who have woken up and seen the EU for what it is.

 

There's no point in a second referendum, it'd be a landslide for justice. It would simply delay our independence.

Can you trust Maybe with another landslide? Thought not.

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The actual definition of democracy which does not ever mention honesty and therefore has nothing to do with honesty.

 

You can agree to disagree with facts all you like, you are wrong either way.

 

The debate was about the process of democracy (The lies - the 350m to the HNS/the reduction of immigration by 2/3rds) not about the definition of democracy.

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Doesn't take into account all the people who have woken up and seen the EU for what it is.

 

Read and understand what I wrote - "The data suggests if those who voted in 2016 and are still living voted exactly the same way". However, some may have woken up and decided to change their minds from Leave to remain but who knows how many either way.

 

There's no point in a second referendum, it'd be a landslide for justice. It would simply delay our independence.

 

That's not what the recent polls indicate.

 

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/should-the-united-kingdom-remain-a-member-of-the-european-union-or-leave-the-european-union-asked-after-the-referendum/

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Read and understand what I wrote - "The data suggests if those who voted in 2016 and are still living voted exactly the same way". However, some may have woken up and decided to change their minds from Leave to remain but who knows how many either way.

 

 

 

That's not what the recent polls indicate.

 

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/should-the-united-kingdom-remain-a-member-of-the-european-union-or-leave-the-european-union-asked-after-the-referendum/

 

Just to remind you of the accuracy of polls....

 

Every poll suggested Trump could not win.

Most polls suggested Clinton would get in with a landslide.

A lot of polls claimed Trump wouldn't be nominated.

Some polls claimed remain would win.

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Just to remind you of the accuracy of polls....

 

Every poll suggested Trump could not win.

Most polls suggested Clinton would get in with a landslide.

A lot of polls claimed Trump wouldn't be nominated.

Some polls claimed remain would win.

 

Sure Geo, Most Polls predicted Clinton would win but I think two predicted a Trump victory. Polls are hit and miss but they give food for thought.

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Sure Geo, Most Polls predicted Clinton would win but I think two predicted a Trump victory. Polls are hit and miss but they give food for thought.

 

I don't like polls mate, they can be affected by so many things.... questions asked, questioner, questioned, time, weather, mood, circumstances, interpretation etc etc.

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What are you scared of then?

 

I've answered this a million times.

 

I'm not scared of the result changing.

 

I'm scared of Government tyranny. If they do overrule the democratic decision to leave in any way then it is an abuse of power, and if the Government is happy to abuse their power, all of us lose.

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I am not a tax evader.

 

Are you a british citizen?

Are you currently an EU citizen?

 

If so then you will benefit from Brexit in the long term.

 

The debate was about the process of democracy (The lies - the 350m to the HNS/the reduction of immigration by 2/3rds) not about the definition of democracy.

 

:laugh:

 

That's a bit of a hail mary.

 

Read and understand what I wrote - "The data suggests if those who voted in 2016 and are still living voted exactly the same way". However, some may have woken up and decided to change their minds from Leave to remain but who knows how many either way.

 

 

 

That's not what the recent polls indicate.

 

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/should-the-united-kingdom-remain-a-member-of-the-european-union-or-leave-the-european-union-asked-after-the-referendum/

 

The silent majority don't care about polls, they care about justice which is why we will be leaving the EU.

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