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Or.....the truth, Dodds may be many things but he doesn't appear an obvious liar.

 

Others creating stupid negative foundless rumours because they don't like the chairman does no one any favours.

 

Where did I mention lies?... where did I mention smurf?.. are you being overprotective because your losing your faith/belief?

Because someone doesnt lie it doesnt mean they tell the whole.. it may be the whole but only they know no matter what they tell you.

If I tell you Im a millionaire its the truth... the bit I may leave out is the currency... the first statement is still true

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Where did I mention lies?... where did I mention smurf?.. are you being overprotective because your losing your faith/belief?

Because someone doesnt lie it doesnt mean they tell the whole.. it may be the whole but only they know no matter what they tell you.

If I tell you Im a millionaire its the truth... the bit I may leave out is the currency... the first statement is still true

 

Where did I said you'd called him a liar? Where did I say you'd mentioned the chairman? Losing my faith in what?

 

This is just nonsense made up by people with nowt better to do and it's completely foundless codswallop which for some reason it appears you want to defend? My mate follows him on twitter so I've asked him to message Dodds with this thread (that's now miles off topic) for his thoughts.

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Where did I said you'd called him a liar? Where did I say you'd mentioned the chairman? Losing my faith in what?

 

This is just nonsense made up by people with nowt better to do and it's completely foundless codswallop which for some reason it appears you want to defend? My mate follows him on twitter so I've asked him to message Dodds with this thread (that's now miles off topic) for his thoughts.

 

You brought lies and smurf into it so deflecting doesnt work as easily... losing your faith/belief in what you are saying.

I have no idea why he left, I never said/suggested I did... I simply stated that only one person actually knows why he left and thats the man himself and the only thing he will tell you is what he wants you to know... no conspiracy, not negative, not challenging, no blame just fact.

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You brought lies and smurf into it so deflecting doesnt work as easily... losing your faith/belief in what you are saying.

I have no idea why he left, I never said/suggested I did... I simply stated that only one person actually knows why he left and thats the man himself and the only thing he will tell you is what he wants you to know... no conspiracy, not negative, not challenging, no blame just fact.

 

How can I lose faith in what I believe when it's supported by the man himself? :laugh:

 

Exactly so let's believe the man himself and what he says as he has no record of lying or misleading people! People making stuff up that has no foundation to fit their warped agendas is just frankly weird.

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How can I lose faith in what I believe when it's supported by the man himself? :laugh:

 

Exactly so let's believe the man himself and what he says as he has no record of lying or misleading people! People making stuff up that has no foundation to fit their warped agendas is just frankly weird.

 

See above.... I dont know why he left, I dont know the reasons he gave, I know he left and I wished him luck. I have no agenda. I dont know if he has a record of lying or misleading people, Im not making stuff up...

I do have a natural mistrust of official statements.

"I did not have relations with that woman" [clinton] "WMD" [everyone who wanted to invade] "I am not a crook" [nixon] are the obvious ones... its rare to release an official statement to simply inform.. a mandy rice?... even in a courtroom setting with people swearing to tell the truth, the whole truth... its extremely rare you get it.

Is someone giving you a wedgie?...

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He said: "I felt I needed to experience something different. I am happy I did it now and I wasn't going to a new club when my legs had gone and I was just biding my time before retirement. I hope I get a good reception from the Vale fans. I never fell out with Vale or had a bad word with fans in my time at the club so hopefully I'll get a bit of a clap."

 

The man himself!

 

He's hardly Tony Blair or Bill Clinton Geo :laugh:

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He said: "I felt I needed to experience something different. I am happy I did it now and I wasn't going to a new club when my legs had gone and I was just biding my time before retirement. I hope I get a good reception from the Vale fans. I never fell out with Vale or had a bad word with fans in my time at the club so hopefully I'll get a bit of a clap."

 

The man himself!

 

He's hardly Tony Blair or Bill Clinton Geo :laugh:

 

Good job, we couldnt afford either of them for an after dinner speech let alone a 12 month contract.

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I'm a season ticket holder and so I attend most home games. Last Tuesday I drove from Huddersfield and back because of where I was working. When at home I travel from Wirral and back. I have been to the away games at Bury and Bolton. If I wasn't a season ticket holder I would be attending pretty irregularly. The team has demonstrated skill and resilience to come back in home games. But the first 60 minutes of most home games and all the away games I have seen have been poor, unprofessional, lacking sensible tactics for over a couple of months.

 

The Oldham game, we had three strikers. One wasn't fit. One is being asked to play as the target man, but isn't suitable. We were effectively playing with 7 outfield players for a large chunk of the game, because the forwards were just not producing in attack (28 minutes for first shot at goal, into second half for second shot etc.). Without the two centre halves, right back and keeper we could have lost that game by 4,5, 6 goals. Knopps left exposed at left back where chance after chance came from there.

 

I have had enough. This is not entertaining. It is time consuming to get to games. Sort it manager and chair now. Please find some sense and professionalism.

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Hello fellow valiants :) very rarely do i post nowadays because i was one of the people wanting page out after his negative playstyle on the pitch was boring me to death and i didnt want to start sounding like a broken record wanting yet another manager out . unfortunately this negativity around the club seems to have spread to the crowds at home. i wouldve thought that a more pleasing on the eye style of play i.e not micky adams long ball game wouldve brought some more people thru the turnstyles and yes while our away form is still unbelievably bad at home our record is pretty good. there are a lot of clubs far worse off than us at the moment so just what is keeping the fans away? and can anything be done to improve the gates and atmosphere as i have a feeling our first sub 3000 gate is coming soon......

The resulting complacency of relying on the ageing fan base, not built on since the Pledge 5000 initiative, is starting to show. Look around the stands, few kids, some remainents of the 90's good days and the elderly. The crowd is slowly dying off and we're barely surviving on blind loyalty.

 

Smurthwaite you need to up your game on customer relations and initiatives.

 

Ribeiro you need to reveal the attacking attractive football you promised. A full stadium end of season? Full of what ..

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The resulting complacency of relying on the ageing fan base, not built on since the Pledge 5000 initiative, is starting to show. Look around the stands, few kids, some remainents of the 90's good days and the elderly. The crowd is slowly dying off and we're barely surviving on blind loyalty.

 

Smurthwaite you need to up your game on customer relations and initiatives.

 

Ribeiro you need to reveal the attacking attractive football you promised. A full stadium end of season? Full of what ..

 

It's all been said before, but nothing changes.

 

Next Sunday's Cup tie would be an ideal Family Day. What do they come up with? ZERO!

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