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Sat 3rd Jan 2015, Port Vale v Gillingham, pre-match, the match itself.


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We could and probably will disagree about Ben Williamson all year.

 

However, Rob Page's statement that Ben is bang in form and has an excellent goals-to-games ratio is very very odd.

 

The 4-goals-in-22-games stat would normally be enough to "rest" a striker.

 

I just can't see the lad as good enough for survival in this division, never mind getting out of it in the other direction.

 

For what it's worth I'd love Ben to score a hat-trick tomorrow and stick his fingers up to me.

 

Exactly my feelings. Would love him to prove me wrong.

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He's also played a lot of games, misses bags of chance and disappears in games almost as much as Dodds

You can dress it up anyway you want. The fact is, he is our top scorer of players available. On that fact alone he deserves his place.

 

Replacing him with a relative unknown who's scored a few for the stiffs is your answer? I'm just glad it's page picking the team tomorrow and not you.

 

Just out of interest should Page drop Williamson and Dodds tomorrow and Vale lose, who are you going to spend the next week ridiculing on here? Who will be the next scapegoat?

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You can dress it up anyway you want. The fact is, he is our top scorer of players available. On that fact alone he deserves his place.

 

Replacing him with a relative unknown who's scored a few for the stiffs is your answer? I'm just glad it's page picking the team tomorrow and not you.

 

Just out of interest should Page drop Williamson and Dodds tomorrow and Vale lose, who are you going to spend the next week ridiculing on here? Who will be the next scapegoat?

 

Does that make him undroppable regardless of form? So it seems in your eyes. He's only top scorer because Pope isn't fit and other than that we didn't really have any other strikers at the beginning of the season.

 

I wasn't ridiculing I was pointing out facts. I like his work ethic, but his form has been poor, no matter what Page has said.

 

If you only want to see experienced players I believe you are in for a rough few seasons,

 

What else is Campion meant to do? Keeps scoring for reserves then doesn't get played for the first tea.

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You can dress it up anyway you want. The fact is, he is our top scorer of players available. On that fact alone he deserves his place.

 

Replacing him with a relative unknown who's scored a few for the stiffs is your answer? I'm just glad it's page picking the team tomorrow and not you.

 

Just out of interest should Page drop Williamson and Dodds tomorrow and Vale lose, who are you going to spend the next week ridiculing on here? Who will be the next scapegoat?

 

You don't know how good campion and nimely are they haven't been given a chance. But I'd bet there better than Williamson!!!

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Pages record since he took over is good and the style of play is easier on the eye than Adams,therefore I am prepared to leave team selection to the manager, after all its in his interest to pick his strongest side,not a side chosen by internet forum members

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Does that make him undroppable regardless of form? So it seems in your eyes. He's only top scorer because Pope isn't fit and other than that we didn't really have any other strikers at the beginning of the season.

 

I wasn't ridiculing I was pointing out facts. I like his work ethic, but his form has been poor, no matter what Page has said.

 

If you only want to see experienced players I believe you are in for a rough few seasons,

 

What else is Campion meant to do? Keeps scoring for reserves then doesn't get played for the first tea.

 

On what basis are you dropping him? He scored last time out at VP and there were worse performers than him at Swindon, Marshall been one of them. Do you want him dropped as well?

 

It's got nothing to do with wanting experienced players been picked. He's our fittest top scorer, it's as simple as that. Don't let that get in the way of your agenda though.

 

As for Campion, he'll get his chance when Page believes he's ready for it. It could be today it might be the opening day of next season. There's a perfectly good reason as to why Campion has had the amount of game time that he has had. Page has the answer's, take it up with him.

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The team need too push on now .

Create more and have more ambition and more quality.

Gillingham will be a tough game.

The football we r playing under Page is better than under Adams but the fans generally aint coming .

Priced out ,decided that they would rather go elsewhere.

Daft as it seems as we r leagues apart but everytime Stoke beat top sides it puts another nail in the Vales coffin ,there beating Man City ,Tottenham ,Arsenal ,Everton what r we doing cannot even reach 3rd round of cup and play with fear v league one sides.

We need too improve and quickly .

Vales whole existence is at stake.

Love Vale but come on wheres the ambition,we dont even play Moore surely at home fans wanna be out of them seats cheering like mad at been entertained.

 

Probably because he isn't good enough.

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You don't know how good campion and nimely are they haven't been given a chance. But I'd bet there better than Williamson!!!

 

I bet neither of them are better than Williamson and Page thinks so himself hence why he continues to pick him ahead of the pair of them.

 

Just because one sounds good and the other was good on Fifa 12 or whatever it was doesn't mean there any good. Time will tell obviously, but for now Page thinks Williamson is the better of the three and I trust his judgment.

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He's also played a lot of games, misses bags of chance and disappears in games almost as much as Dodds

Interesting fact is that Pope and Williamson have played nearly the same amount as minutes. Pope has 9 goals and Willo has 8, Willo has 3 assists. How many does Pope have.

 

Can't argue with the facts and them are the facts. Yet everyone slates Willo and worships Pope.

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I reckon there might be a good chance of some extended coverage on Sky Sports News today.

 

They don't have rights to any of the FA Cup matches, and with no games in the top two divisions and only 3 games in League One, we might have one of the panel sat in the studio watching the game.

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