Fleetwood (H) match thread - 27th Feb

[Vtid]

Always enjoyed the pod but it doesn’t half drive me mad when that numpty Amos is on there! I don’t want hear about your alcoholism & cat farting ffs 🙄

[JohnDoe]

26 minutes ago, Nippy Naylor said:

I don't know , it's up to DM but for me 

Lowe and Loft should be nowhere where

near the first team they are a F###### liability 

I’d be fine with Lowe at right back in a back four. Just not midfield. We let about a thousand crosses come in from the left on Tuesday, so can’t be worse and it is his better position. 

[Rockape99]

1 minute ago, JohnDoe said:

I’d be fine with Lowe at right back in a back four. Just not midfield. We let about a thousand crosses come in from the left on Tuesday, so can’t be worse and it is his better position. 

I agree then use sang in his position in midfield 

[Brian]

1 hour ago, Dr Delgado said:

If that’s what you saw then I will have to bow down to your observation, you being a reliable and regular poster. Hopefully the head coach saw it too.

I’m not a huge fan of Ojo, but you have to factor in that he is playing when nowhere near match fit. Ditto Garrity. And probably Chislett.

Because we have so little quality in the squad, the better players have been run into the ground. It all comes back to recruitment.

The story of this season is that the two loan midfielders performed above and beyond. Coupled with Garrity’s goals and Ripley’s goalkeeping, we got to November in an unrealistic position.

The DoF got lucky, because these factors covered up the woeful inadequacy of the recruitment.

Then we get a couple of injuries, the two lads get recalled, and then we have the farce of January. Williams and Gore were sold to us as examples of the DoF’s acumen, then he panicked and we ended up with Mighten and no striker.

Im a fan of 35 years, and have been through the Bratt years, the mystery buyers, Norman and Ribeiro, but I have never been as disappointed in my club as I was during the second half last night.

It’s probably about context.

Carol came in all guns blazing, and raised my hopes, to the point where I thought she would drive Port Vale in a sustainable way, and they would become a club to be proud of. It worked for a while (Etihad, Swindon, Wembley, good young home-grown players etc etc).

But over the last 18 months, it has looked more and more like a vanity project. The community stuff is very laudable, but it seems to have become the main focus. Maybe the OBE is to blame..

 

[Nippy Naylor]

4 minutes ago, JohnDoe said:

I’d be fine with Lowe at right back in a back four. Just not midfield. We let about a thousand crosses come in from the left on Tuesday, so can’t be worse and it is his better position. 

I'd rather Rob Lowe play RB , tbh 

[Rockape99]

32 minutes ago, Nippy Naylor said:

I don't know , it's up to DM but for me 

Lowe and Loft should be nowhere where

near the first team they are a F###### liability 

Wilson is injured , we have a 17 year old as back up , you have to play loft as Ben G is needed in midfield 

[PV1973]

Just now, Rockape99 said:

Wilson is injured , we have a 17 year old as back up , you have to play loft as Ben G is needed in midfield 

Yep. It’s no good people moaning about loft, the recruitment has saddled us with a squad that is devoid of goals so he has to play. 

[Nippy Naylor]

Just now, Rockape99 said:

Wilson is injured , we have a 17 year old as back up , you have to play loft as Ben G is needed in midfield 

A  traffic cone could do a better job 

 Loft  is absolute garbage 

[Vtid]

8 minutes ago, JohnDoe said:

I’d be fine with Lowe at right back in a back four. Just not midfield. We let about a thousand crosses come in from the left on Tuesday, so can’t be worse and it is his better position. 

Desperate for Mitch to return! 

[Rockape99]

Just now, PV1973 said:

Yep. It’s no good people moaning about loft, the recruitment has saddled us with a squad that is devoid of goals so he has to play. 

Exactly it’s DF and Johnson who are dock for that window closed 4 weeks ago or so Wickham would nearly be fit by now ffs if we took him on a free 

[darren1810]

1 hour ago, Dr Delgado said:

If that’s what you saw then I will have to bow down to your observation, you being a reliable and regular poster. Hopefully the head coach saw it too.

I did 100 % 

[Nippy Naylor]

9 minutes ago, Brian said:

I’m not a huge fan of Ojo, but you have to factor in that he is playing when nowhere near match fit. Ditto Garrity. And probably Chislett.

Because we have so little quality in the squad, the better players have been run into the ground. It all comes back to recruitment.

The story of this season is that the two loan midfielders performed above and beyond. Coupled with Garrity’s goals and Ripley’s goalkeeping, we got to November in an unrealistic position.

The DoF got lucky, because these factors covered up the woeful inadequacy of the recruitment.

Then we get a couple of injuries, the two lads get recalled, and then we have the farce of January. Williams and Gore were sold to us as examples of the DoF’s acumen, then he panicked and we ended up with Mighten and no striker.

Im a fan of 35 years, and have been through the Bratt years, the mystery buyers, Norman and Ribeiro, but I have never been as disappointed in my club as I was during the second half last night.

It’s probably about context.

Carol came in all guns blazing, and raised my hopes, to the point where I thought she would drive Port Vale in a sustainable way, and they would become a club to be proud of. It worked for a while (Etihad, Swindon, Wembley, good young home-grown players etc etc).

But over the last 18 months, it has looked more and more like a vanity project. The community stuff is very laudable, but it seems to have become the main focus. Maybe the OBE is to blame..

 

Agreed mate , First and foremost we are a 

Football club , fair to play to helping the community but we are drowning at the moment.we need precise and ruthless leadership to get us out of this mess 

Port Vale FC has to be the number 1 priority, , carol 

[Trumpingtonvale]

2 hours ago, Packmoor_vale said:

Yeah he did minutes later he was subbed 

Looking back as bad as the 2nd half was to watch our defence stood up very well to the barage that they threw at us obviously until another costly mistake  

Shame really 

Had the offer of free tickets for Stevenage v Cambridge last night but we gave our support via a tenner to the Vale and watched on iFollow. Agree Ojo looked disinterested/unfit or both and we called out his pulling out of tackles - if he plays Saturday (because we’ve got no one else) Derby will walk all over us in midfield, more so than Fleetwood did, and I fear a drubbing - expect there’ll be a reaction to last night’s defeat to Charlton. 
 

The overload on Sang (especially second half) was plain to see and we couldn’t understand why DM didn’t do more eg put Plant on earlier for Weir (his defensive game was/is poor) to give Sang some respite. Despite the excellent defending from Kacper and the Yak all night with the number of crosses raining in from Patterson the law of averages said one was bound to drop to one of their players at some point and it did on 88mins. Lucky to come away with a point the way we and they played second half.

We’re going Derby on Saturday, never been to the new ground and have a feeling it may be some time before we get chance to go again.

UTV

Edited February 28 by Trumpingtonvale

[Old School]

I would love to know if we dropped off and defended a 30 yard line in the second half as per instruction from Darren Moore, or was it just an unspoken but collective decision by the players. The answer matters as if it was on DM's instruction, it would obviously be the wrong decision,  he has seen enough of us now to know that we just cannot defend so it would be pointless. In the post match interview Darren said that he was disappointed at how we yielded the initiative, hinting that it was not by his instruction. 

If it was the players that consciously or unconsciously made the decision, why was Moore not on the touchline screaming for them to push up? 

Everyone, including the players must know that playing as we did second half would be football suicide, so why the heck do they keep doing it?

[Conrad]

I was told last night, that Reading have had another 2 points deducted.

anyone else heard this?