All on Moore this. With his team selection and Ripleys paper hands. Been playing rubbish for weeks.

Poor conditions and matched it with our display. Got to pick what he considers to best side and stick with it. This chop and change is no good for this standard of footballers.

1 minute ago, saintvaliant said:

At the minute it is difficult to see us finishing top 7. Negative tactics, too much chopping and changing, players being played out of position, no pace, no creativity. We had a good run of nicking tight games by the odd goal but I’m afraid that we look well and truly found out at the minute.

Said it midweek, people are moaning about how bad  certain players are after coming into the team after a layoff and for me that’s because they’re going to rusty. Yet again today we’ve chopped and changed, tried to be clever with no striker and played a formation we probably haven’t worked that much on. Too much chopping and changing with every game isn’t always a good thing.  

Still would prefer a settled team rather than all this over thinking rubbish making so many changes every game 

Gutless. Absalutley disgusting performance. Manager needs have a long hard look at himself. 

4 minutes ago, Alan Vit said:

Then give your own head a wobble, Rory.

I've already told you to stop telling me what to do once. Now stop it.

Could be in 3rd by end of the day 

 

 

For me it’s a front 5 with croasdale behind them and a flat back 4.   4-1-3-2 imo it suits getting the best players on the pitch more often than not and hopefully breeds a bit of familiarity. Clearly the wheels have come off a bit but still a long long way to go. 

Still 15 points from safety! 

Walsall get the win again - what else? Same again too from Moore who just like Tuesday started the game with the wrong selection, kept us deliberately cautious and on the back foot but - unlike Tuesday - couldn’t rescue us from the damage of his own making. The old enemy triumph again. 

What’s most disappointing is that game after game, despite having the better players, we are always behind the play, never seemingly in control, and ceding momentum to the opposition. 

Do we have any discernable, controlling pattern of play? Not on this evidence and if it doesn’t change we can expect this meagre points tally to continue. And, after today, there are more than a few players who need to give themselves a good hard look. 
 

 

I'm utterly fed up at what I've just watched. Just some of the things that are doing my head in:

1 - can we stop using Ripley as a playmaker? Just passing back to him creates nothing.  And when we waste valuable time him giving into Debrah, Debrah giving it to him, then a big hoof - what's the point? Just put the opposition under pressure and stop farting around.

2 - we are useless at keeping the ball at throw ins.  No-one wants it, and apart from Debrah chucking it long, the players just don't seem to move for the ball. This is basic stuff.  If I was the Walsall manager today, I'd have told my players to give away a throw in, because Vale will give it back to you straight away when they take it.  And we did.

3 - constantly chopping and changing the team - no good having all these options if we end up playing 60 minutes with one lot of players and another 30 with another lot, changing formation. Paton must be due a run of games, just to show he is up to it? Using Premiership loan players today, when Paton could have been in from the start with a bit of fire in his belly - it was going to be scrappy, and Paton is a scrapper.

4 - but the thing that really, really boils my urine is that Walsall have just had to roll up today and be very ordinary to win that game. They will be looking at us and thinking "how the hell are you top of the league if you play like this at home?".  And we're looking at them thinking "how have you got this far when you offer so little?" Yet they still won quite easily. Just very disappointed with today  - our chance to make a statement, and we ballsed it up - again!  Just once, just once, I would like to tear into a team and hammer them from the outset, and keep going.

Clearly, Santa thinks I've not been good this year, and this is my reward.  We need to get back to the basics if we want to push on from here - some of the football today was woeful.

Edited December 7, 20241 yr by Lornelounger

Disgraceful performance and we have indeed been crap for multiple games now. Not starting a striker is a complete joke. As is bringing on Hackford.

Id like to see us go back to the formation we were playing against Newport when we first started on the winning run, we looked far better.

As others have said Moore needs to look in the mirror after that. I have no issue with him changing the team if he thinks it will make us better, but to start at home without a recognised striker when we’ve got 4 fit is a disgrace. Stop over complicating things.

Can’t believe I’ve just frozen my little pecker off for that! Game should never have gone ahead 😂 Bloody awful performance! Be out the autos in no time if we continue this poor run of form. The only positive today was my Bovril & the return of Byers. Though Hart & Curtis did ok in spells but we were garbage on the whole! Onto Donny 🍕 Enjoy your weekend Valiants 🌧 

Edited December 7, 20241 yr by VTID-New

Very poor and we have been the same for the last few games. Starting with no strikers at home is criminal. Thank the lord for beer after that.