Exeter City (H) match thread - 13th April

[Lornelounger]

2 minutes ago, Valiiant said:

 

The club is being killed as it's being run by someone who hasn't got a scooby about football. Someone who is too egotistical to do anything about her mistakes until she's simply left with little choice. Someone who has the nerve to write patronizing open letters just to try and save face.

If she's got as much money as people say then losing a few million is like a regular bloke losing £500. The club is just a vanity project for herself that happened to be on her doorstep.

I think I disagree with every sentence.  The club hasn't been killed.  The atmosphere and feel good factor have been mind you. We'll still be in business next season, thanks to Carol. I don't think she is egotistical or patronising, but she has made mistakes - big ones, that are going to cost the club, and so her. I didn't have a problem with her open letter either, I thought it was front foot after all the stick she gets for being on the back foot.  And she ate some humble pie when Flitcroft left after she said he was going nowhere.  

I don't get these "vanity project" comments - what sane person throws her personal wealth at a "vanity project" in the way Carol has done at great cost to herself?  It would make no sense, and she is a shrewd business woman. And her losing a few million is like you losing £500?  I don't see it. She has put heart and soul into the club, made mistakes, will pay for them from her own pocket, and try to get us back up if/when we do go down.  Regular fans buying season tickets will too, but I think the comparison ends there.   

We're all angry, but personal attacks on Carol's character are out of order, in my view. I'm glad she's our chairwoman, and I hope she sticks around to see us promoted again. 

[Nippy Naylor]

29 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:

OK then what's up with our team?

The squad bar 3 or 4 players is dog shyte that's what's up with our team , Patrick 🤔

[PVFC FAN]

Just now, Nippy Naylor said:

We need to get better players in 

Jeez , we don't need a DOF, you mug 

So who is going to run the clubs and all that complicated stuf? She has the money for a good dof so get one. Most teams do so well due to a solid dof. I don't mind dm having a manager/dof role but we have the money for a good dof. Amd a good dof can go a long long way.

[valiant_593]

8 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:

She has loaned us, interest-free, 8 million pounds from other companies she owns.

Buy whatever you want mate, it doesn’t change the facts. 

Why is this such an amazing feat? If you buy a club the expectation is to put money in surely? It would be pretty filthy if she loaned the club money from Synetics and charged interest. 

[Playa Amodores]

6 minutes ago, onestepatatime said:

Think you will be disappointed mate. I firmly believe there are loads and loads of long standing fans that honestly have had enough. Find an alternative to waste your cash and time on. Enough is enough. Not a knee jerk reaction, just common sense coming to roost for a vast amount of Valiants.

Membership Scheme. Will be the way quite a few will go. It’s annoying not going and losing, but it’s lot less painful than sitting there and witnessing the shambolic performance.

[blackdog]

The hard truth about today as far as I'm concerned is we scored a deflected goal and their keeper had a mare for the second, they changed things around at half time and we didn't have a clue, not a scooby,it was obvious after 5 minutes of the 2nd half they would score but not 4.

The substitutions were bizarre, surely Loft on for Uche, there again I didn't see Loft he was missing for the half time kick around and I couldn't see him on the bench, was he even there ? 

Weir on for Uche rendered our forward line redundant, if I had known that Dipeppa and Weir would have been our forward line during one of our most important games of the season I would have thought you were off your rocker.

I feel as though we have given our place in the 1st division away cheaply, starting off 7 zip in August, building a side round loan players and injury ridden journeymen and no strikers then going on to playing with no passion or commitment is unforgivable for me, the decision to leave Crosby in position for so long was unforgivable and not having a proper recruitment process in place to replace him was also unforgivable.

Next season will be no easier, we don't have a nucleus of a good side, to many of the current team are bottlers but are under contract next season, we had the basis of a solid 1st division side when we left Wembley 2 years ago, we are nowhere near that standard tonight.

[PVFC FAN]

2 minutes ago, Nippy Naylor said:

The squad bar 3 or 4 players is dog shyte that's what's up with our team , Patrick 🤔

Ye I said that mate I'm asking some smart ars what's up with it because he disagreed with me when I said our strikers and defence is <ovf censored>.

[JS Valiant]

Compared to other owners she doesn’t have all that much.

I don’t know where fans get the idea that she has ?

However with the latest accounts and current state of the Footballing Side of the Club she obviously has gone backwards.

The win at Wembley is a Distant Memory now and we have to start again in League 2.

The only plus side is the seemingly massive improvement with the Academy.

She has got to have a long hard think about the future, the club has obviously got to be refined.

Somehow she has got to reduce the Quantity at the club and increase the Quality.

Vale Fans deserve a Winning and Sustainable Football Club which 2 years ago, we thought we were becoming but mistake after mistake and we’re back to square one.

Over to you Carol and Good Luck.

[Nippy Naylor]

3 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:

So who is going to run the clubs and all that complicated stuf? She has the money for a good dof so get one. Most teams do so well due to a solid dof. I don't mind dm having a manager/dof role but we have the money for a good dof. Amd a good dof can go a long long way.

So get another DOF in and make the same mistakes cheap skate on recruitment and we're Vanarama bound that's genius that is 

[PVFC FAN]

1 minute ago, Nippy Naylor said:

So get another DOF in and make the same mistakes cheap skate on recruitment and we're Vanarama bound that's genius that is 

That's a silly way to look at it. Your acting like every dof is David flitcroft. It's like getting a <ovf censored> manager and acting like every manager is <ovf censored> after that.

[leedsvaliant]

I'm of a train of thought that maybe we need to go back down. It feels we're completely under equipped for this division. We've had a succession of bang average teams come here, and as soon as they put any pressure on us, we crumble.

The lack of time wasting, disrupting their flow, giving away cheap fouls, was really evident second half. We're too nice and accommodating. Any team that's done well this season has a couple of horribles who are constantly in the refs ear.

Wednesday night showed us how far we are away. We need to get relegated, rip it up entirely and start again.

What a complete waste all that winning on penalties against Swindon was. Mansfield will be replacing us next year and will be better prepared. Funny how things come full circle isn't it?

[Rampant Zebra]

I find it disappointing that a supposedly shrewd business woman didn't Google Flitcroft and do some due diligence after finding the Bury story. Not to mention allowing someone who you invited for an interview to talk themselves into a job you didn't even know you were recruiting for. I suspect that part of the problem with our recruitment has been that most players were aware of Flitcrofts reputation in the game and we only signed players who couldn't get a better offer.

Edited April 13 by Rampant Zebra

[valiant_593]

5 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:

That's a silly way to look at it. Your acting like every dof is David flitcroft. It's like getting a <ovf censored> manager and acting like every manager is <ovf censored> after that.

Do we need one in league 2 though? We’re a relatively big sized club in league 2 and don’t / won’t have the same issues attracting players as in this division

[Houston Valiant]

48 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:

League 2 is crap but will be pretty weak next year without Wrexham, Stockport, and Mansfield. 

We all hate going down but a few are overreacting and some of stick going Carol’s way is creeping over the line. Criticise her decisions and not her as a person. 

We aren’t going to go down again. We haven’t been ‘killed’. We have a bad couple of years and will have to take our medicine. 

You’re papering over the cracks. 

[Gora Vale]

Moaning Minnies win the last 3 no problem