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1 hour ago, Nippy Naylor said:

Oh come on, mate 

They've got to earn there own luck by going out there and having a go 

I agree about earning your own luck mate but Rick O'Shay hasn't favoured us with his presence this season other than for the opposition!

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14 hours ago, MelbourneValiant said:

At any level, any footballer played out of position may say that they are happy just to play, the reality is that is will destroy them. They become professionals in their position by playing well in that position all of their lives then you think they may have to change at a professional level?

Even the discussion of this shows how bad we are. Plant scored a few goals last season I think, every player, rookie or veteren should always always always be in their natural position.

Just my opinion as a Sunday league player mind. 😀

Plant scored one of his 2 goals at right wingback vs Plymouth and the other as a defensive midfielder vs Charlton. He hasn't really got a position yet as a league player. Bromage was a good youth team winger who ended up as a decent wingback.  Most academies now move young players into different positions.  Aspin or Walsh playing many games at rightback didn't stop them becoming good centrehalves.  Loft was the 4th best leftback I've seen at Vale in 55 seasons, despite preferring midfield. Personal view was he could have made Championship level at leftback yet is nowhere near the top 10 midfielders I've seen at Vale. Sometimes build and physical attributes limits a players ability to play different positions; mainly centrehalves,  centreforwards and to an extent wingers. After that it's football intelligence.  Mills was the best rightback I've seen at Vale, yet he was a midfielder who was signed to cover longterm injury to Ray Walker. Walker was incredibly comfortable as a centrehalf because like Mills he had a good football brain. I'd agree that players who lack real football intelligence struggle and that certain positions are more specialised than others. Equally there are a host of examples of players who can play different positions almost seamlessly.  Chris Shuker was a prime example of an intelligent footballer who lacked height, strength and when at Vale pace; yet moved from flying winger to an excellent defensive midfielder because he understood football after we signed him. Play by numbers players can't adapt but that's a long way from all players. 

In terms of Plant I don't think he has the attributes to be above league 1 as a wide player,  unless he adds football intelligence.  He's neither quick enough,  good enough on the ball or enough one on one. He may develop the understanding of the game to go higher but to do that he needs more than impressive workrate, currently his strongest attribute.

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40 minutes ago, JRC said:

Plant scored one of his 2 goals at right wingback vs Plymouth and the other as a defensive midfielder vs Charlton. He hasn't really got a position yet as a league player. Bromage was a good youth team winger who ended up as a decent wingback.  Most academies now move young players into different positions.  Aspin or Walsh playing many games at rightback didn't stop them becoming good centrehalves.  Loft was the 4th best leftback I've seen at Vale in 55 seasons, despite preferring midfield. Personal view was he could have made Championship level at leftback yet is nowhere near the top 10 midfielders I've seen at Vale. Sometimes build and physical attributes limits a players ability to play different positions; mainly centrehalves,  centreforwards and to an extent wingers. After that it's football intelligence.  Mills was the best rightback I've seen at Vale, yet he was a midfielder who was signed to cover longterm injury to Ray Walker. Walker was incredibly comfortable as a centrehalf because like Mills he had a good football brain. I'd agree that players who lack real football intelligence struggle and that certain positions are more specialised than others. Equally there are a host of examples of players who can play different positions almost seamlessly.  Chris Shuker was a prime example of an intelligent footballer who lacked height, strength and when at Vale pace; yet moved from flying winger to an excellent defensive midfielder because he understood football after we signed him. Play by numbers players can't adapt but that's a long way from all players. 

In terms of Plant I don't think he has the attributes to be above league 1 as a wide player,  unless he adds football intelligence.  He's neither quick enough,  good enough on the ball or enough one on one. He may develop the understanding of the game to go higher but to do that he needs more than impressive workrate, currently his strongest attribute.

It was Ipswich mate 😉 

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  A quick chat with lads from work during night and while some coming on to work  (all going today so that's good )and we all agree Uche must start for his sheer unpredictability .

Get behind them

Let's hope today's performance is even better than v Bristol Rovers it will need be .

A win well it keeps us all interested.

A draw well depends what others do .

The other unthinkable .

No negative vibes let's win the game and have a winner in national .

Pack the Park I'm.reading on twitter that Stoke fans allegedly coming to our relegation party .

That in itself should fire the crowd and players up .

Which game are they on about 

Bolton sold 694 tickets and that's next Sat. 

Play to win Vale

Gooaarrrnnnn.

 

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1 minute ago, Dipepa delight said:

  A quick chat with lads from work during night and while some coming on to work  (all going today so that's good )and we all agree Uche must start for his sheer unpredictability .

Get behind them

Let's hope today's performance is even better than v Bristol Rovers it will need be .

A win well it keeps us all interested.

A draw well depends what others do .

The other unthinkable .

No negative vibes let's win the game and have a winner in national .

Pack the Park I'm.reading on twitter that Stoke fans allegedly coming to our relegation party .

That in itself should fire the crowd and players up .

Which game are they on about 

Bolton game we  sold 694 tickets and that's next Sat. (That's off the excellent Mike bagguley substack ).

 

Play to win Vale

Gooaarrrnnnn.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, JRC said:

He didn't score against Ipswich,  although I still think that was his best game.

Your right 👍🏻 my bad was it mal Benning at Ipswich? Sublime volley 😃 yeah agreed, I think he suits that central midfield role with his energy. 

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16 minutes ago, Raveninblack said:

I am hopeful in your confidence as I feel we need at least a couple of wins to prevent relegation and our goal difference is very poor

Yep. 2 wins may just be enough, I’d say 7 points myself so 4 minimum required from today & Tuesday 🙏🏻 KTF 

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1 hour ago, Dipepa delight said:

  A quick chat with lads from work during night and while some coming on to work  (all going today so that's good )and we all agree Uche must start for his sheer unpredictability .

Get behind them

Let's hope today's performance is even better than v Bristol Rovers it will need be .

A win well it keeps us all interested.

A draw well depends what others do .

The other unthinkable .

No negative vibes let's win the game and have a winner in national .

Pack the Park I'm.reading on twitter that Stoke fans allegedly coming to our relegation party .

That in itself should fire the crowd and players up .

Which game are they on about 

Bolton sold 694 tickets and that's next Sat. 

Play to win Vale

Gooaarrrnnnn.

 

Stoke fans can attend their own relegation party 

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2 hours ago, Dipepa delight said:

 Pack the Park I'm.reading on twitter that Stoke fans allegedly coming to our relegation party .

Plymouth won last night so the <ovf censored> will only be out of the drop zone on GD themselves at 5pm today if Wednesday beat them, Huddersfield beat Bristol City and the scores swing the 4 goal GD between them and Hudds.

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