Recruitment

[man in the pub]

56 minutes ago, Bald Eagle said:

Sadly over the last 3 windows we have gone backwards not forwards

 

 

Spot on. We can all argue over the merits of the players, even individuals who might split opinion like Sang. The one thing we cannot dispute is we escaped relegation last season by the skin of our teeth. This season the management team appear to be having another serious crack at it. Who has put us in this position  and overseen this disastrous recruitment? Who is responsible for " everything the ball touches" ? Ah yes , Dave ( he's doing a great job ) Flickers. Sorry Carol he ain't and I'm not even a clever business person and even I can see it along with the vast majority in the ground.

Edited February 25 by man in the pub

[butt lane vale fan]

6 hours ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

Carol Shanahan - `These players are phenomenal'

Tbf she also said we had a good Transfer window last January 😬

[Bald Eagle]

6 hours ago, butt lane vale fan said:

Tbf she also said we had a good Transfer window last January 😬

And DC dared to say we had a poor one which certainly helped ‘see his card marked’

[Spunk Trumpet]

Goals per minutes played this season…. Josh Thomas is literally a half of football from being our best striker.

I don’t know what happened but I always thought the lad had something about him.

[MelbourneValiant]

22 hours ago, NW9Valiant said:

Does make me wonder what the corporate buzzwords are for the values of the club, just for how pointless the whole thing is, is it really more than just, 'don't be a dick'? 

Overall, this is the end game, the style of players and play we are looking for.

 

[TJHValiant]

Awful list. But look, if you delve into the backgrounds of these players, most were never going to set the league alight. They all have many things in common. A recent bad injury, a lack of experience or were proven as pretty poor with the experience they had. 
 

At the end of the day, they reflect the budget we have, a budget that Carol is ultimately responsible for providing. 

[Smallthorne clampet]

On 25/02/2024 at 12:10, Jacko51 said:

I may have missed some but I reckon these are the players we've signed since 1st January 2023. 

I 

I would say 5 have been a success 

[Old fort]

On 25/02/2024 at 12:31, valeparklife said:

But they all align with the values of the club!

And we're impressed with the 3hr PowerPoint presentation. 

[Old fort]

On 25/02/2024 at 14:11, Bede said:

You have to have a 'live, love, laugh' emblem on your living room wall with a wooden 'gin o'clock' thing in your kitchen window.  

Maybe Robbie can get Harry Styles to buy in as well. A big colourful butterfly, pink boas and a "just be kind" motto, perfectly fits with the clubs mantra. 

[MBE]

It’s too simplistic to run through the signings like that in my view.

You have to take into account the status at the club i.e 1st team , backup squad player/development.

Clearly It’s the senior pros signed which is the major issue.

Massey, Grant, Lowe, Loft, Uche, Wilson, Taylor they are all poor signings to date, not to mention a 3 year deal for a senior 32/33 year old vice captain who downs tools when the going got tough last year and had repeated the trick this season. 

Massey,Grant,Loft  2 year deals!!

Sackable offense on its own.

 

 

[Rudgies Flat Cap]

From all the children who play in academies at the age of nine, fewer than 1% will make it professional at any level of the game. Only 180 from 1.5 million youth footballers in the UK are likely to make it all the way to the Premier League, or 0.012%.

The odds aren’t much better for making it as a pro at any level. What that means is despite what we think, these players are the elite (statistically). So why do they seem so devoid of confidence and ability given the odds they beat to even get on the pitch?

I can’t believe they are ‘rubbish’ despite how it looks, but I do think twe need to make sure players fit our system of play, have the right character traits, are hard working are willing to learn, and a have desire to improve. At our level they can’t retire at 35 as millionaires and it’s a precarious living as a lower league player that I honestly don’t envy. So they should be sweating blood in every training session, and leaving everything on the pitch after 90 minutes. If they need the fans to get them up for it, then they don’t have what it takes. Do you think Roy Keane needed the fans to cheer him on to put effort in. Not a chance.

These players thought must be good enough but talent alone isn’t enough. Attitude and will to win is the most important thing at this level. And we need leaders, players who the others will follow into battle. Do we have any? Look at the best teams, no matter what their level, and they are full of leaders. We need more characters and fewer EPL academy players (Devine and Arblaster apart) because statistically most of them won’t even make it in the game. Not even at our level. So, let’s look to the non-league scene. Find the rough diamonds like Andy Jones and Ian Taylor. They are there if we look hard enough, take a chance and put the work in with them. 

 

[Nippy Naylor]

39 minutes ago, Rudgies Flat Cap said:

From all the children who play in academies at the age of nine, fewer than 1% will make it professional at any level of the game. Only 180 from 1.5 million youth footballers in the UK are likely to make it all the way to the Premier League, or 0.012%.

The odds aren’t much better for making it as a pro at any level. What that means is despite what we think, these players are the elite (statistically). So why do they seem so devoid of confidence and ability given the odds they beat to even get on the pitch?

I can’t believe they are ‘rubbish’ despite how it looks, but I do think twe need to make sure players fit our system of play, have the right character traits, are hard working are willing to learn, and a have desire to improve. At our level they can’t retire at 35 as millionaires and it’s a precarious living as a lower league player that I honestly don’t envy. So they should be sweating blood in every training session, and leaving everything on the pitch after 90 minutes. If they need the fans to get them up for it, then they don’t have what it takes. Do you think Roy Keane needed the fans to cheer him on to put effort in. Not a chance.

These players thought must be good enough but talent alone isn’t enough. Attitude and will to win is the most important thing at this level. And we need leaders, players who the others will follow into battle. Do we have any? Look at the best teams, no matter what their level, and they are full of leaders. We need more characters and fewer EPL academy players (Devine and Arblaster apart) because statistically most of them won’t even make it in the game. Not even at our level. So, let’s look to the non-league scene. Find the rough diamonds like Andy Jones and Ian Taylor. They are there if we look hard enough, take a chance and put the work in with them. 

 

Agreed didn't the guy Langstaff 

Come from non league 

What a goalscorer that lad is 

If we have a decent scouting network

And a competent DOF it shouldn't be a problem 🤔

But oh wait Fraudcroft is our DOF 🙄😬

Edited February 26 by Nippy Naylor

[MBE]

31 minutes ago, Rudgies Flat Cap said:

From all the children who play in academies at the age of nine, fewer than 1% will make it professional at any level of the game. Only 180 from 1.5 million youth footballers in the UK are likely to make it all the way to the Premier League, or 0.012%.

The odds aren’t much better for making it as a pro at any level. What that means is despite what we think, these players are the elite (statistically). So why do they seem so devoid of confidence and ability given the odds they beat to even get on the pitch?

I can’t believe they are ‘rubbish’ despite how it looks, but I do think twe need to make sure players fit our system of play, have the right character traits, are hard working are willing to learn, and a have desire to improve. At our level they can’t retire at 35 as millionaires and it’s a precarious living as a lower league player that I honestly don’t envy. So they should be sweating blood in every training session, and leaving everything on the pitch after 90 minutes. If they need the fans to get them up for it, then they don’t have what it takes. Do you think Roy Keane needed the fans to cheer him on to put effort in. Not a chance.

These players thought must be good enough but talent alone isn’t enough. Attitude and will to win is the most important thing at this level. And we need leaders, players who the others will follow into battle. Do we have any? Look at the best teams, no matter what their level, and they are full of leaders. We need more characters and fewer EPL academy players (Devine and Arblaster apart) because statistically most of them won’t even make it in the game. Not even at our level. So, let’s look to the non-league scene. Find the rough diamonds like Andy Jones and Ian Taylor. They are there if we look hard enough, take a chance and put the work in with them. 

 

Give me attitude and application over ability any day of the week.

[Wrex]

There is an experienced striker with over 100 EFL goals to his name that we could have signed in January who instead went to Gloucester City, he's now scored six goals in eight games in the National League North so he still knows where the back of the net is. A player by the name of Theo Robinson 😬

[man in the pub]

On 25/02/2024 at 19:31, butt lane vale fan said:

Tbf she also said we had a good Transfer window last January 😬

Carol says the players are phenomenal, the League table tends to disagree.