Reading (A) match thread - 20th Feb

[Smallthorne clampet]

First and foremost she is a business woman , and having spent 4 years money in 3 years , I feel she is trying to balance the books . The irony is that relegation will make the finacial situation a lot worse . 

[valiant_593]

48 minutes ago, Stockleys_socks said:

So 2 games later all hope is gone? Tell me how much time he has been able to spend on the training pitch and BEGIN to implement his ideas? To expect that all a new manager has to do is pitch up, pick the team and give a rousing team talk is pretty naive. 

Two huge losses against sides right down there with us. Last chance saloon Saturday. Anything but a win I think we are gone 

[Wrex]

8 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:

Did we genuinely waste money on a new changing room so that the players had 2: one for training and one for matches?

Well, at least matchdays seem special for them now. I dunno it sounded like <ovf censored> at the time but what do I know?

[MBE]

15 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:

I've said sarcastic comments. Most people just replied with a ha ha understanding it's humour. 1 or 2 people chose to reply to an obviously light harted bit of sarcasm and took things seriously. So obviously I didn't take them seriously and replied sarcasticly to there comments. There comments that were negative for no good reason. Be more positive those people.

 

My post was that good you had to reply twice!  🤩😂

[JoeB2]

30 defeats in 53.

142nd out of 144 for goals scored since September.

All targets - ticked.

Good night all. We go again Saturday.

Edited February 21 by JoeB2

[southport vale]

It's amazing well scandalous really that we have no wing backs and no full backs. Not surprising that they started with 2 wingers. Every manager must know by now attack us from wide out. There is nothing to stop them.
We've let Gibbons, Benning, Cass all go without replacing them. I know they were not that good but better than this pile of doodoo. We don't even have players in those positions in the youngsters.
So disappointed I can't see where 1 win is coming from.
DM needs to get them in everyday till they learn

[Doha]

41 minutes ago, Doha said:

Our form since September (at which point we didn't win again until December) has us 138th in the form table of the entire EFL + top 3 non-league divisions. 18 points. There's only 5 clubs and 8 points between us and being at the very bottom of 6 x 24 team divisions.

Would you like to know the best bit, gents? While we're rubbing shoulders with Dover Athletic (15 points) and Bishops Stortford (10 points) they're still one up on us as both have scored more <ovf censored> goals. We're 142/144 for goals scored since September in the EFL and below. Strikers signed in the January window to correct this horrific record = none.

How does she say with a straight face that he's doing a good job?

It's actually even worse than this but I gave up. If you include 3 of the divisions from step 7 we're actually 201/208 in the form table. I can't be arsed to work out the 4th division from that level as the data is all over the place, it's literally village level. Step 7 is that low down there are two clubs who've pulled out of the league halfway through.

Edited February 21 by Doha

[Jeffporthill]

Vale played like a team that had done a deal for a nil nil but were conned in the last half hour.  I`ll give it one more chance on Saturday then that`s it.

[andy jones]

2 hours ago, Brian Johnson said:

Dave,

The players have been getting full support on the pitch. Listen to Vale fans singing at Cheltenham last Saturday. Listen to the Vale fans that were signing tonight.

The support is their.

The games are for supporting the team vocally and the message boards are for discussing whats going wrong.

Don't get to go away games these days Brian, so it's good to hear that.

I suspect we are going to have to get the wins at home games if at all. So it's just a plea really to continue supporting the team at home (as with Stevenage) and not be anything other than 100% behind the team.

Without doubt Flitcroft has been good at getting transfer fees for players leaving the club. 

Without doubt his failure to bring the right players in has been catastrophic.

But his biggest failure has been to tie the club to a system, that doesn't work for us, just to give young premier players game time in a system that suits their parent club but doesn't suit the Vale.

Hopefully DM is strong enough to override Flitcroft's wishes and change the formation.

I am grasping at straws mate.

Edited February 21 by andy jones

[leedsvaliant]

I think we're leaving ourselves with too many 'must win' games, and given our form over the last year, I don't see us suddenly being the team to win 40-50% of our matches.

I'm still really annoyed and frustrated with the first postponed game. We'd just come off the back of a pretty decent December and a reasonable result against Charlton.....Reading weren't in great form and we had a few more attacking options, followed by nearly 1000 fans. That postponement, followed by further postponement the week after, really knocked any slight momentum we had built.

We end up playing them when they're on a really good run and we're in stinking form. Not only that, they have players like Smith and Knibbs who are likely to be on a fortune that they don't even pay. How is that fair? It's cheating, plain and simple.

If it comes down to us being relegated by these 3 points tonight, I would kick off with the EFL. All this solidarity bullocks is a load of shi3te, I can guarantee that Reading and their fans didn't give a stuff about us when we were in a similar position.

[andy jones]

1 hour ago, tommytunstall said:

No I am a realist. Please explain why we should go out of our way to support this lot. And I have supported the team for over 65 years, but enough is enough 

Tommy no offence intended.

Just a plea to stick with them whilst there's a chance DM can perform a miracle.

 

[mr1876]

2 hours ago, JoeB2 said:

Norman's foreign legion were better than this. They went down on the last day by a point.

Reggie and Chris Mbamba. Dear me!

Reggie was head and shoulders better than loft 

[andy jones]

1 hour ago, JoeB2 said:

Oh, Dave. 

If we go down it will have absolutely nothing to do with the fanbase.

Joe I am as fearful as anyone that relegation. Will happen.

But it hasn't happened yet.

So let's give our last hope (DM) all we can. He has changed to a back 4 tonight  but says he needs fans to stay with him.

Let's give it a go and do that.

[andy jones]

1 hour ago, Valiiant said:

 

Who isn't giving total support? Total support isn't not saying things are crap when they are crap. You can hope and want Vale to win games and do well but also criticise aspects of the football club constructively, at the same time. Or do you believe you deserve a big pat on the back because you won't say anything is rubbish at the club? Maybe a fruit basket?

I think just about every post I put on makes it very clear that I don't support Flitcroft's 3-5-2

Hopefully DM is going to change that with our support.

[man in the pub]

17 hours ago, JoeB2 said:

Since I became Chair of Port Vale I have made mistakes. Appointing Dave Flitcroft is not one of them.

Agreed it's 2 mistakes, appointing him and then keeping him in a job.

Edited February 21 by man in the pub